Re: [WISPA] External battery on UPS

2006-11-14 Thread Mark Nash - Lists
APC SUNET700. 1 battery. Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: "Gino A. Villarini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 20

Re: [WISPA] DHCP with a twist

2006-11-14 Thread Sam Tetherow
Being five days late on this you have probably already solved it, but just in case The CB3 will request a DHCP address with it's MAC address (assuming it is set to DHCP). When the PC or router behind the CB3 requests a DHCP lease you will see the MAC for that device. The DHCP REQUEST mes

Re: [WISPA] External battery on UPS

2006-11-14 Thread JohnnyO
Yeah - plug it in and turn it on before you try to run off of batteries :) JohnnyO - Original Message - From: "Mark Nash - Lists" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 10:42 PM Subject: [WISPA] External battery on UPS > I believe I remember some d

Re: [WISPA] Re: Anyone using Exalt radios????

2006-11-14 Thread Tom DeReggi
Brad, I'm aware of your Atlas experience. We've gotten Full 45mbps out of an Atlas numerous times. However, I admit, often that does require antenna size upgrade, and that needs to be factored into the end cost for comparison. Add a little noise to the equation and that puppy will auto-rate

Re: [WISPA] Re: Anyone using Exalt radios????

2006-11-14 Thread Tom DeReggi
Bob, They way you wrote it, you are correct its not to bad at all. My post was based on what I thought I read from someone else's post that stated that the 200mbps model (raw) pushed 100mbps of throughput (real), I was assuming based on waste of protocol overhead like Wifi. Trango has a very

RE: [WISPA] External battery on UPS

2006-11-14 Thread Gino A. Villarini
What apc model ? how many batts are you using ? Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 200

Re: [WISPA] External battery on UPS

2006-11-14 Thread Joe Laura
Mark, Check this thread out at dslreports.com. There are some Pic as well. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14779653~days=~start=20 Superior Wireless New Orleans,La. www.superior1.com - Original Message - From: "Mark Nash - Lists" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent

[WISPA] External battery on UPS

2006-11-14 Thread Mark Nash - Lists
I believe I remember some discussion on this list on connecting an external battery to an APC UPS. I'm in the middle of doing it right now and am having problems. The UPS just beep continuously with the 'bad battery' light on. I'm using a Lifeline deep cycle battery. Any ideas? Mark Nash N

[WISPA] New Principle Member of WISPA - Travis Johnson and Microserv

2006-11-14 Thread John Scrivner
We have seen quite a bit of interest in new membership in WISPA lately. I am proud to announce that Travis Johnson has added his name to the list of WISP operators who have joined WISPA. Travis has a very successful operation and I am sure his involvement in WISPA will be valuable to us and to

RE: [WISPA] Re: Anyone using Exalt radios????

2006-11-14 Thread Brad Belton
Not only that, but the Atlas isn't capable of 45Mbps in any form much less FDX. Most we've ever seen out of an Atlas is maybe 20Mbps HDX with very clean air. Add a little noise to the equation and that puppy will auto-rate itself down to the 10Mbps neighborhood in a heartbeat. Believe me these "

Re: [WISPA] Re: Anyone using Exalt radios????

2006-11-14 Thread Bob Moldashel
Tom, You're gonna bond 2 atlas links and get close to 100 Mb full duplex? How is that?? The 200 Mb Exalt is 100 Mb TX /100 Mb RX If you use your equation you really need 4 Trango radios which is 5 x $3000 = $15000 and that will give you 100 mb with 50/50 MIR. Not to say what you w

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!

2006-11-14 Thread Jon Langeler
Hey Brad, I've already looked at it briefly and will definately look into it a little further, pretty cool. However, based on deploying many different systems from wifi to CDMA, I've come to one conclusion. If it doesn't have GPS sync, I don't even want to touch it! :-) Tell me this, will th

Re: [WISPA] Re: Anyone using Exalt radios????

2006-11-14 Thread Jon Langeler
Never heard of them before until now...just talked to a sales rep and got unnoficially ~$12k. It looks like software defined radio so they probably have the capability to develop firmware to do a lot of the things that Orthogon did. He said they don't currently have a spectrum management featur

Re: [WISPA] Re: Anyone using Exalt radios????

2006-11-14 Thread Tom DeReggi
The advertised throughput on a 200 Mhz radio is 100 Mb true throughput in each direction port to port. The radio throughput is based on a 64 Mhz channel. OK so lets compare to Trango Atlas or Alvarion Backhaul (which has similar metrics) with equivellent speed models. Taking that maybe only 1%

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!

2006-11-14 Thread Jon Langeler
Yeah we ended up doing the AP300 program a couple times...our biggest time 22AP's arrived in a box! :-) Well I should have complained about something else then...maybe we need a Prizm 2.0 Lite then! j/k Jon Langeler Michwave Tech. Gino A. Villarini wrote: Jon, you need to be creative, in li

RE: [WISPA] Re: Anyone using Exalt radios????

2006-11-14 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Err.. 5.4 experimental licensing ..., I would love to try some exalt radios, Im only concern is on the channel size for big bandwidth.. 64 mhz is way too much, on the side note the spectras 30 mhz dual polarity channel is very flexible cause you can set one end to tx on one slice of spectrum, where

[WISPA] Re: Anyone using Exalt radios????

2006-11-14 Thread Lakeland
5.4 is not type accepted in the US. Gino A. Villarini writes: Spectras ara vailable on 5.4 too , tho not the same flexibility as having a triband radio ... Spectras also have GPS sync, plus fiber interfaces Spectras have the dual pol. Dynamic DFS thingy... wich it's the coolest tool

[WISPA] Re: Anyone using Exalt radios????

2006-11-14 Thread Lakeland
Personally I couldn't be happier. They work as expected and stated. They have relatively straight forward GUI interfaces, you can move the center of the channel to any 1 Mhz. division, it works on 5.3, you can get a straight indoor only unit or an outdoor unit with integral antenna or N connect

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!! very attractive rural model

2006-11-14 Thread Brad Larson
And we're also offering the VoIP feature set of version 4.0 that pushes 40,000 small packets per second thru the base station. 10X's the performance of many of the current products out there today including our older versions of 3X firmware. Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!

2006-11-14 Thread Brad Larson
Gino and Jon, Your loyalties to Canopy are well regarded. I have seen the technical numbers from some of your peers doing direct head to head comparisons. With this new program we've now taken the extra step and we invite you to seriously take a look at our offerings! Brad -Original Message--

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!! very attractive rural model

2006-11-14 Thread Patrick Leary
BTW, we should note that on the AU-S, the capacity is not constrained since it supports the full 32+mbps net from the start. It is only limited in terms of attachments, supporting up to 25 connections of the 3 or 6Mbps CPEs. We've got lots of rural customers for whom this is what was requested. Tho

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!

2006-11-14 Thread Patrick Leary
I also sent you a direct mail, forwarding the 12:55 mail. Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 3:04 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!! I sent you a mail to

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!

2006-11-14 Thread Tom DeReggi
Well, CTI has similar programs for Motorola product that they call ZERO financing, allowing lower volume pricing, by splitting ship dates for committed volume. But the excitement of the Alvarion program, is not just the price, but that it includes ALVARION GEAR! Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wirele

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!

2006-11-14 Thread Brad Belton
Hello Patrick, Nope didn't make it, but I did just get it "again" from you now. Thanks, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 5:04 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is

Re: [WISPA] Trango at ISPCON

2006-11-14 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
Jeffrey Thomas wrote: Brian, Standards don't really matter unless you have interop on the mac layer as well as QOS.With just MAC and phy layer interoperability, the only thing that will be supported is simple bridging and routing when you use seperate vendor's CPE and Base stations. btw, no

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!

2006-11-14 Thread Tom DeReggi
YEP. That was a key point not mentioned in the Commnet brief. The lower cost APs, will allow a WISP to expand their network footprint quicker, without waiting on a long sector ROI first. The idea is not to shaft Alvarion out of their end game revenue that they deserve, as a WISPs that uses thate

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!

2006-11-14 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Jon, you need to be creative, in light of such need, we bought a bunch of classic aps on ebay really cheap and the upgraded them to advantage with the trade program.. ended up paying about $1000 for the APs Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fa

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!

2006-11-14 Thread Brad Larson
Standard base station discounts will apply from our VAR's. You'll need to add an antenna and the upgrade will retail for $3,300. Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry A Weidig Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 4:45 PM To: WISPA General

Re: [WISPA] Trango at ISPCON

2006-11-14 Thread Tom DeReggi
No not the case. The fact that a peice of equipment can instantly be flashed with a Compliant firmware, enables a WISP not to be held hostage by the specific Manufacturer, and can change anyday to the compliant WiMax standard, if they find it to be more advantageous to them. In other words phys

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!

2006-11-14 Thread Jon Langeler
Now we just need to get Moto to do that! Canopy Lite Advantage AP :-) Jon Langeler Michwave Tech. Brad Larson wrote: I'm guessing Patrick went over the 25 user stand alone base station that will retail for $2,595. This will be an upgradeable version that you can start a POP with, recover some

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!

2006-11-14 Thread Patrick Leary
I sent you a mail today Brad. You were in the bcc along with many others who inquired. Did you get it? Time sent was 12:55PM Pacific time. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL P

Re: [WISPA] Trango at ISPCON

2006-11-14 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
So you are saying we won't have a bunch of products to choose from that work together like with WiFi? Jeffrey Thomas wrote: Brian, Standards don't really matter unless you have interop on the mac layer as well as QOS.With just MAC and phy layer interoperability, the only thing that will be su

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!

2006-11-14 Thread Brad Belton
How long does it take for the information on this promotion to be sent? I filled out the information, but haven't seen anything from Alvarion yet. Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry A Weidig Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 3:45

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!

2006-11-14 Thread Patrick Leary
Actually, the main intent of the "AU-S" is to permit profitable VL deployment even in the smallest of towns where the expectations are that'd you not be able to sign more than a handful of subscribers per AU. For sure, some WISPs will choose to use the AU-S as a method of incrementalizing their in

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!

2006-11-14 Thread Larry A Weidig
And this will come with the same 74% of MSRP as the CPE radios correct :) What about the cost to then upgrade it to a full blown base station? Since this is the stand alone is that cost without antenna? Details, details we all want details. Thanks! -Original Message- From: [EMAI

Re: [WISPA] Trango at ISPCON

2006-11-14 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
Brian, Standards don't really matter unless you have interop on the mac layer as well as QOS.With just MAC and phy layer interoperability, the only thing that will be supported is simple bridging and routing when you use seperate vendor's CPE and Base stations. btw, no one is currently supporting

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!

2006-11-14 Thread Brad Larson
I'm guessing Patrick went over the 25 user stand alone base station that will retail for $2,595. This will be an upgradeable version that you can start a POP with, recover some costs, then upgrade when the time comes and you get close to the 25 subscriber attachments. Brad -Original Message---

Re: [WISPA] Solar power

2006-11-14 Thread Carl A Jeptha
Then give full details of what you used. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless wrote: Yep. We just did. Just a single 532 with dual SR2 cards. Dennis Burgess, MCP, CC

Re: [WISPA] Trango at ISPCON

2006-11-14 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
Tom DeReggi wrote: Trango repeated its WISP summit at ISPCON again this year as well. The purpose was to ask WISPs what they need in next generation products, and disclose upcomming products. It was also exciting to learn more about their next generation WIMax product. The advantage of that

[WISPA] Trango at ISPCON

2006-11-14 Thread Tom DeReggi
Trango repeated its WISP summit at ISPCON again this year as well. The purpose was to ask WISPs what they need in next generation products, and disclose upcomming products. It was also exciting to learn more about their next generation WIMax product. The advantage of that platform, is its early

Re: [WISPA] Point-to-point EiRP limits on 5.3 GHz

2006-11-14 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Nope. 30 dB eirp. Max. Total. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireles

RE: [WISPA] Anyone using Exalt radios????

2006-11-14 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Sorry guys, spoke too soon ... I had a beta test Spectra radio link about 2 years ago ... the engineer told be about the gps. The radios are apparently hardware ready, but the feature has not been implemented yet in the firmware. Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp

[WISPA] Point-to-point EiRP limits on 5.3 GHz

2006-11-14 Thread Jack Unger
Does anyone know if there is a point-to-point EIRP exception on 5.3 GHz as there is on 5.8 GHz? For example, on 5.8 - 5.725 – 5.850 ISM band may use greater than 6 dBi antenna with no reduction in transmitter power (point-to-point only) 5.725 – 5.825 U-NII band may use up to a 23 dBi gain an

Re: [WISPA] Anyone using Exalt radios????

2006-11-14 Thread Tom DeReggi
Looks nice, but delusional on price. The day of the $16,000 link in unlicensed is over. Are these 100mbps, meaning 35mbps real throughput, or real 100mbps throughput. Is this based on QAM256? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message -

Re: [WISPA] Anyone using Exalt radios????

2006-11-14 Thread Matt Liotta
Gino A. Villarini wrote: Huh...dont they ? No, none of the Canopy high-speed backhauls do. -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

Re: [WISPA] New WISPA Member

2006-11-14 Thread Ron Wallace
Marshall, Welcome to WISPA, I look forward to your comments, Welcome! Ron Wallace Hahnron, Inc. 220 S. Jackson Dt. Addison, MI 49220 Phone: (517)547-8410 Mobile: (517)605-4542 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] >-Original Message- >From: John Scrivner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTE

Re: [WISPA] Anyone using Exalt radios????

2006-11-14 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
deep sigh Here we go again Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www

Re: [WISPA] Anyone using Exalt radios????

2006-11-14 Thread Dawn DiPietro
Scriv, Here is the pricing I found this morning. http://www.connectronics.com/exalt/ Regards, Dawn DiPietro John Scrivner wrote: Bob, Tell us about your experiences with these. Work as advertised? Approximate cost per pair? Thanks, Scriv Bob Moldashel wrote: Just looking for experiences

RE: [WISPA] Anyone using Exalt radios????

2006-11-14 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Huh...dont they ? Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 11:48 AM To: WISPA General List Su

Re: [WISPA] Anyone using Exalt radios????

2006-11-14 Thread Matt Liotta
Gino A. Villarini wrote: Spectras also have GPS sync, plus fiber interfaces Since when have Spectras had GPS sync? -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

Re: [WISPA] ISPCON Conference Call

2006-11-14 Thread Sam Tetherow
Hoping to make the conference call this afternoon. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless Peter R. wrote: You have been reading the blog notes about this Fall's exciting ISPCON (http://radinfo.blogspot.com/), but tomorrow (Tuesday, Nov. 14) at 3 PM Eastern you can talk to me about it. I didn't h

RE: [WISPA] Anyone using Exalt radios????

2006-11-14 Thread Gino A. Villarini
For that price, I'll buy an orthogon..., 64 mhz channel? wow Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dawn DiPietro Sent: Tuesday, November 1

RE: [WISPA] Anyone using Exalt radios????

2006-11-14 Thread Paul Hendry
How do they handle small packets? Can you still get full throughput? Would be interesting to see a comparison between these and the Spectra's. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: 14 November 2006 12:44 To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] Anyone using Exalt radios????

2006-11-14 Thread Bob Moldashel
A few things to consider The Exalt does the whole 5 Ghz. band, including 5.3 and 5.4 It also allows you to set the center channel on any 1 Mhz. division. It has GPS syncing so you only need to use one channel for a handful of radios at the same site. (Try doing that with Orthogon) It is

RE: [WISPA] Anyone using Exalt radios????

2006-11-14 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Spectras ara vailable on 5.4 too , tho not the same flexibility as having a triband radio ... Spectras also have GPS sync, plus fiber interfaces Spectras have the dual pol. Dynamic DFS thingy... wich it's the coolest tool And they are owned by Motorola!!! The Exal radios looks promising, the o

Re: [WISPA] Anyone using Exalt radios????

2006-11-14 Thread John Scrivner
Bob, Tell us about your experiences with these. Work as advertised? Approximate cost per pair? Thanks, Scriv Bob Moldashel wrote: Just looking for experiences Personally I think they rock but just looking to see if anyone else has any pros/cons www.exaltcom.com 100 Mb FD 2.4 Ghz

Re: [WISPA] Anyone using Exalt radios????

2006-11-14 Thread Bob Moldashel
One of the things that is really unique is that they have a 2 year warranty for a carrier class backhaul product. You don't have to buy the second year, just fill out the registration card. And there is also a written "out-of-box failure" policy. None of this stuff about depending who you know

Re: [WISPA] Anyone using Exalt radios????

2006-11-14 Thread Dawn DiPietro
Paul, Below is a link for the information you requested. http://shop.wirelessguys.com/s.nl/sc.2/category.1257/.f Regards, Dawn DiPietro Paul Hendry wrote: Interesting. Any idea what the retail value on the 5GHz kit is? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: [WISPA] Anyone using Exalt radios????

2006-11-14 Thread Dawn DiPietro
Paul, Here is a more detailed price sheet including accessories and extended warranties. http://www.connectronics.com/exalt/ Regards, Dawn DiPietro Paul Hendry wrote: Interesting. Any idea what the retail value on the 5GHz kit is? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailt

RE: [WISPA] Anyone using Exalt radios????

2006-11-14 Thread Paul Hendry
Interesting. Any idea what the retail value on the 5GHz kit is? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: 14 November 2006 02:00 To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Anyone using Exalt radios Just looking for experiences..