Re: [WISPA] way OT: Did I mention I love the WISP business?

2007-02-09 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
Umthanks Patrick. :^) I'm not afraid to appreciate you for what you have done for us and the challenge you put before us. With regards to the big money types, I have some additional perspective from a slightly different viewpoint. The big money is definitely coming in this direction.

Re: [WISPA] My Hypothetical Conversation with Julius Knapp, Chief of OET

2007-02-09 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
-- Original Message -- To: WISPA General List (wireless@wispa.org) From: Patrick Leary ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Subject: [WISPA] My Hypothetical Conversation with Julius Knapp, Chief of OET Date: 2/8/2007 12:48:20p What should I say next time I'm before people like Julie Knapp, who

Re: [WISPA] My Hypothetical Conversation with Julius Knapp, ChiefofOET

2007-02-09 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
- Original Message - From: Jack Unger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 11:14 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] My Hypothetical Conversation with Julius Knapp, ChiefofOET Marlon, I was just trying to determine if the problems

[WISPA] A modest proposal

2007-02-09 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
In all this conversation... the big guys wanting stiff enforcement to protect them from the death by a thousand cuts as small guys innovate by making their own equipment, and the arguments over the government's enforcement ability or will, sort of miss the point. We need regulations that

Re: [WISPA] A modest proposal

2007-02-09 Thread Carl A jeptha
Ok some one buy this guy a drink, well said, exactly what we need. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Mark Koskenmaki wrote: In all this conversation... the big guys wanting stiff enforcement

RE: [WISPA] way OT: Did I mention I love the WISP business?

2007-02-09 Thread Brian Webster
Matt, Nice post. This is exactly what the two-way radio, paging and cellular/pcs industries did. For those of us who were around to witness that, this is familiar territory. If you need some tools to help you manage your big projects hit me off list. Might be able to save you some hair

[WISPA] Wireless proposal advances - Johnson County will ask providers to submit bids on creating a countywide network.

2007-02-09 Thread Dawn DiPietro
All, RFP to be put out in March. Regards, Dawn DiPietro Posted on Fri, Feb. 09, 2007 Wireless proposal advances Johnson County will ask providers to submit bids on creating a countywide network. By FINN BULLERS The Kansas City Star In the future, computer users in Johnson County could be

[WISPA] Who Needs Enforcement when we have Civil Action?

2007-02-09 Thread Forbes Mercy
I have had great success turning competitors interference into a civil matter. I already put one WISP out of business who was running one watt amps on 21dbi grid antennas 15 degrees apart, he had few customers but did it to make the floor so dirty no one else could play. Without getting

[WISPA] Motorola Acquires Netopia, Inc.

2007-02-09 Thread Dawn DiPietro
Motorola Acquires Netopia, Inc. By Niladri Sekhar Nath TMCnet Contributing Editor Motorola (News - Alert), Inc., has acquired Netopia, Inc. Netopia provides carrier-class broadband customer premise equipment (CPE), remote management software, and services to telecom operators worldwide.

[WISPA] WR mobile units

2007-02-09 Thread chris cooper
Has anyone installed the Waverider mobile units in vehicles? How long did it take, any pitfalls to watch out for? Thanks Chris Cooper -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:

[WISPA] FCC Martin comments on relcass of wireless broadband as an info service

2007-02-09 Thread Frank Muto
http://energycommerce.house.gov/Press_110/110-resp.FCC.020707.Chairman.resp%20to%20our%2013107%20ltr.pdf See page seven, second to last paragraph; The Commission is also considering an order that would classify wireless broadband Internet access service as an information service... Frank

Re: [WISPA] FCC Martin comments on relcass of wireless broadband as an info service

2007-02-09 Thread Peter R.
He is talking about cellular broadband, not UL wireless. Frank Muto wrote: http://energycommerce.house.gov/Press_110/110-resp.FCC.020707.Chairman.resp%20to%20our%2013107%20ltr.pdf See page seven, second to last paragraph; The Commission is also considering an order that would classify

Re: [WISPA] A modest proposal

2007-02-09 Thread Jason
This is ideal. I'd like to mention that, while they were reviewing part 15 , there was discussion with the FCC of people being able to become certified or licensed to work with the equipment. Whatever happened to that? Mark Koskenmaki wrote: In all this conversation... the big guys

Re: [WISPA] Motorola Acquires Netopia, Inc.

2007-02-09 Thread Dylan Oliver
Hi Dawn, Where do you see this impacting WISPs? Maybe Netopia's eCare and NBBS Service Management Platform are rolled into Prizm? Best, -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Re: [WISPA] Who Needs Enforcement when we have Civil Action?

2007-02-09 Thread Dylan Oliver
.. I calculated how many customers I had to cut back to keep them interference .. You did what? Best, -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:

RE: [WISPA] Who Needs Enforcement when we have Civil Action?

2007-02-09 Thread Forbes Mercy
Hey it was 5:30 AM when I wrote that :) What I meant to say was I calculated how many people I would have on an average bridge, reinforced that with site survey requests and then the number of calls I went on because of interference which I blamed completely on him. See I can make a short

Re: [WISPA] FCC Martin comments on relcass of wireless broadband as an info service

2007-02-09 Thread Dawn DiPietro
All, I got the impression Martin did not have WISP's in mind when he made this decision. As quoted from the article; He added it also would “establish a consistent regulatory framework across broadband platforms.” This is the same rationale Martin has used to support deregulation of DSL,

Re: [WISPA] FCC Martin comments on relcass of wireless broadbandas an info service

2007-02-09 Thread Frank Muto
And you may be right and that is my point in drawing out this answer Martin made to the committee. He also states the reclass would eliminate unnecessary regulatory barriers and clarifications of such, though he does not provide an example. And if his agenda for this reclass does only effect

[WISPA] RE: Who Needs Enforcement when we have Civil Action?

2007-02-09 Thread Patrick Leary
That's a fair and excellent approach Forbes and one I've suggested to a number of legal operators. It might sound harsh to some, but it's the risk that operator decided to accept when they made their technology and configuration decisions. Patrick From:

RE: [WISPA] RE: Who Needs Enforcement when we have Civil Action?

2007-02-09 Thread Forbes Mercy
Thanks Patrick, the nicest part of it is that it doesn't invite the FCC to look at our system. Some days the best defense is a good offense. I don't find it harsh, just a cost of doing business and it sends a powerful message to other WISP's who think about it later since I got some good

Re: [WISPA] FCC Martin comments on relcass of wireless broadband as an info service

2007-02-09 Thread John Scrivner
Correct me if I am wrong. Wireless Broadband Internet has always been an information service officiallyright? Scriv Frank Muto wrote: http://energycommerce.house.gov/Press_110/110-resp.FCC.020707.Chairman.resp%20to%20our%2013107%20ltr.pdf See page seven, second to last paragraph; The

Re: [WISPA] FCC Martin comments on relcass of wireless broadband as an info service

2007-02-09 Thread John Scrivner
If there is a true distinction could you please point it out? I would like to see where the line is drawn and what importance, if any, this has to do with our industry? Scriv Peter R. wrote: He is talking about cellular broadband, not UL wireless. Frank Muto wrote:

[WISPA] yes, the big money is coming. Anyone want to explore selling out? (seriously)

2007-02-09 Thread Patrick Leary
I know of four WISPs that used to have smaller operations that within the last month each received over $10 million in new money. I know of several others doing some aggressive consolidation, buying out smaller WISPs. This past week in fact I had one such WISP owner ask me directly for help

RE: [WISPA] RE: Who Needs Enforcement when we have Civil Action?

2007-02-09 Thread Patrick Leary
Agreed. Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Forbes Mercy Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 9:07 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] RE: Who Needs Enforcement when we have Civil Action? Thanks Patrick, the nicest part of it

Re: [WISPA] FCC Martin comments on relcass of wireless broadbandas an info service

2007-02-09 Thread John Scrivner
I am sorry to look stupid here guys but I am missing the point. Please spell it out for me like I am a pre-schooler. I am not grasping the finer points being made. What is it about Martin's answer that will have any effect on us or other licensed wireless broadband industries. Thanks, Scriv

RE: [WISPA] yes, the big money is coming. Anyone want to explore selling out?(seriously)

2007-02-09 Thread Rick Smith
make that 5. I just hooked up with a couple of retired guys from Motorola, and we've found 4 investors willing to pony up some serious ($3MM) cash over the next 3 yrs. One of them actually suggested installing VL soon. :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [WISPA] yes, the big money is coming. Anyone want to explore selling out? (seriously)

2007-02-09 Thread Matt Liotta
In case anyone wasn't already aware... we are interested in talking to anyone who wants to sell. -Matt Patrick Leary wrote: I know of four WISPs that used to have smaller operations that within the last month each received over $10 million in new money. I know of several others doing some

RE: [WISPA] yes, the big money is coming. Anyone want to explore sellingout?(seriously)

2007-02-09 Thread Patrick Leary
Congratulations Rick! Nice networking. Ex Motorola guys recommending VL is not as strange and uncommon as one might think. No one knows the real skinny like former employees. Anyway, I'm obviously biased but the combination of version 4.0 and the price points I've established with the

RE: [WISPA] Another expert heard from.

2007-02-09 Thread W.D.McKinney
- Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 20:52:51 -0900 Subject: RE: [WISPA] Another expert heard from. Yes, but that's with the self-install indoor CPE, right? Nothing outdoors except the

Re: [WISPA] FCC Martin comments on relcass of wireless broadbandas an info service

2007-02-09 Thread Dawn DiPietro
Scriv, The particular paragraph that I pointed out that this was timely because of the 700MHz Auction. After reading the pdf file that Frank posted it looks like Martin feels that there is enough UL spectrum in the 5Ghz range to last WiFi providers far into the future. Martin did comment on

RE: [WISPA] Part 15 Certification Lab Questions

2007-02-09 Thread Patrick Leary
Jack, I checked this morning as promised. We use Compliance Certification Services out of Morgan Hill, CA (far south Bay area). Apparently we have used them for years and our guys say they are responsive and good. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080

Re: [WISPA] Part 15 Certification Lab Questions

2007-02-09 Thread Jack Unger
Patrick, Thanks so much for sharing this information. I hope others will share as well. jack Patrick Leary wrote: Jack, I checked this morning as promised. We use Compliance Certification Services out of Morgan Hill, CA (far south Bay area). Apparently we have used them for years and our

RE: [WISPA] Part 15 Certification Lab Questions

2007-02-09 Thread Patrick Leary
My pleasure Jack. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jack Unger Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 10:41 AM To: WISPA General

Re: [WISPA] FCC Martin comments on relcass of wireless broadbandas an info service

2007-02-09 Thread Peter R.
INLINE Dawn DiPietro wrote: Scriv, The particular paragraph that I pointed out that this was timely because of the 700MHz Auction. After reading the pdf file that Frank posted it looks like Martin feels that there is enough UL spectrum in the 5Ghz range to last WiFi providers far into the

[WISPA] Mobile Broadband Gets Real

2007-02-09 Thread Dawn DiPietro
Mobile Broadband Gets Real FEBRUARY 7, 2007 After years of talk, trials and delays, mobile broadband is becoming a reality, thanks largely to 3G. It has been a long time coming, but mobile wireless broadband is finally moving beyond early adoption, according to the latest report on

Re: [WISPA] FCC Martin comments on relcass of wireless broadbandasan info service

2007-02-09 Thread Frank Muto
Harold Feld puts his spin it at http://www.wetmachine.com/item/722 Wireless Broadband As Information Service: Brand X Is Not Enough Frank Muto Co-founder - Washington Bureau for ISP Advocacy - WBIA - Original Message - From: Dawn DiPietro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Scriv, The

Re: [WISPA] Routers; OpenWRT

2007-02-09 Thread Jeromie Reeves
On 2/8/07, Brian Whigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2007-02-08 at 12:50 -0600, Matt wrote: What I would like to know is what is the cheapest router that is supported by OpenWRT? I'd almost guarantee it's the Buffalo WHR-G54S. I've only one so far. It's been at grandma's house doing a

RE: [WISPA] Mikrotik RB and Cisco Switch port sync problems

2007-02-09 Thread Mac Dearman
Excuse me for asking, but do you mean a RB44 in an x86 platform? (PCI to 4 port ethernet) If so - I can comment! If not - I will shut up. Mac Dearman -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Annas Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 7:05 PM To:

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik RB and Cisco Switch port sync problems

2007-02-09 Thread Dylan Oliver
Hi Mac, I'm interested in what you have to say about RB44s in x86 .. Along somewhat similar lines, I've been looking at Migrus C787 mini-ITX boards with 3-port GE expansion cards. I'm assured that these are not 3-port switch cards but that each of the 3 has its own MAC. I might put a couple in