RE: [WISPA] Friday Fun.

2007-10-21 Thread ralph
That particular box is a Metricom/Ricochet mesh radio (now essentially out of business). They offered a 56k/128k service for about 80 bucks a month. Because of them, many power companies no longer allow mounting to street light arms and tapping power from photocells. Georgia Power removed 4000

RE: [WISPA] Friday Fun.

2007-10-21 Thread Brad Belton
Hello Ralph, Very interesting read. As an early Ricochet adopter I'd like to add one of these boxes to my museum collection alongside my Ricochet PCMCIA card. Let me know off list if you can come up with a good example. Best, Brad From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Re: [WISPA] Look how ComCast deals with P2P

2007-10-21 Thread Tom DeReggi
No offense taken. Its the opinions from all, that allows us to reconsider a better balanced perspective. I may have been a bit over the top on my previous statements, but none the less, I do not agree with Comcast's position on this topic. It doesn't sit right with me, and I don't think it

Re: [WISPA] Look how ComCast deals with P2P

2007-10-21 Thread Tom DeReggi
A layman's version (i.e. File sharing programs such as Limewire will be slower than other traffic, 128Kbps compared to the standard 5120Kbps) should be included along with a technical version. Very well said. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband -

[WISPA] Advertising

2007-10-21 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, This issue with ComCast and their p2p connection blocking brings up another issue I would like to discuss... false advertising. I have a competitor that is selling up to 4meg down by 1meg up for $34.95 with free installation and no contract. Another competitor is doing up to 2meg for

Re: [WISPA] Cisco Wireless Bridges

2007-10-21 Thread Dave Hulsebus
Don, I did test the 1400 integrated units as a PtP bridge last summer for 60 days. Worked flawlessly. Never set it up as an AP though. I liked that it used two runs of 75ohm cable up the tower to the units with three grounding blocks along the 150 ft path. I didn't keep them because the Trango

RE: [WISPA] Cisco Wireless Bridges

2007-10-21 Thread Don Annas
Thank you Dave! I really appreciate the feedback. We have had good luck with the Trango units as well (particularly the 5.3 bridges). Did you get a chance to test the throughput of the Cisco units? If so, at what distance? Thanks. - Don -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [WISPA]was Advertising now lying competition

2007-10-21 Thread Mac Dearman
Travis, If you read in their TOS or UAP you would probably find what they call a best effort clause. The truth of the matter is if your service is better and your subs are leaving for what is supposed to be a faster service - - - - they will be back. If your competitors have to resort to bald

RE: [WISPA]was Advertising now lying competition

2007-10-21 Thread Robert Norris
So true, they will be back and the ones that left only take back what you want. If one left and always wined then it's your chance to decline service to them. As long as your customer service is better people will return when they see the difference. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

RE: [WISPA]was Advertising now lying competition

2007-10-21 Thread chuck
Yeah, I've got a competitor that advertises 12 mbps speeds. He's doing standard low-end wifi. Yes, the over-the-air speed might be theoretically 12, but I ain't ever seen it. Chuck Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 3:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA]

Re: [WISPA] Look how ComCast deals with P2P

2007-10-21 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Sheesh guys, do like we do. Make money from this stuff. We bill out hundreds of dollars per month in overage fees when people go over their 6 gig transfer limit. We do NOT control what they do but we do charge them. Just like, um, lets see, gas, food, clothes, electricity, water, tires,

Re: [WISPA] Look how ComCast deals with P2P

2007-10-21 Thread Travis Johnson
Marlon, I'm glad using the metered model works for you... but not in this area, nor ANY other area where there is cable, DSL, and 2-10 other wireless providers that do not charge based on usage. Yes, I believe it is a better model overall, but until the big boys (CableOne, ComCast, Qwest,

RE: [WISPA] Look how ComCast deals with P2P

2007-10-21 Thread Mac Dearman
Travis, Did you sit in on Image Stream's conversations about packet limiting? I am going to have to find out a little more about that myself. Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007

RE: [WISPA] Look how ComCast deals with P2P

2007-10-21 Thread CHUCK PROFITO
Not for the General List Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 9:03 PM To:

RE: [WISPA] Look how ComCast deals with P2P

2007-10-21 Thread Butch Evans
On Sun, 21 Oct 2007, Mac Dearman wrote: Did you sit in on Image Stream's conversations about packet limiting? I am going to have to find out a little more about that myself. You are a well connected guy, Maccall in your people and it shall be done! :-) -- Butch Evans Network

RE: [WISPA] Look how ComCast deals with P2P

2007-10-21 Thread Butch Evans
On Sun, 21 Oct 2007, CHUCK PROFITO wrote: Not for the General List ?? I'm confused...what is not for the General List? -- Butch Evans Network Engineering and Security Consulting 573-276-2879 http://www.butchevans.com/ My calendar: http://tinyurl.com/y24ad6 Training Partners:

Re: [WISPA] Look how ComCast deals with P2P

2007-10-21 Thread Sam Tetherow
Tom DeReggi wrote: No offense taken. Its the opinions from all, that allows us to reconsider a better balanced perspective. I may have been a bit over the top on my previous statements, but none the less, I do not agree with Comcast's position on this topic. It doesn't sit right with me, and