Re: [WISPA] router to load balance 2 wan connections

2009-04-24 Thread Martes Wigglesworth
These types of questions make my back-fat tingle... hehehe The BSD route is the cheapest and still works great, in my small environment. You can do what this gentleman is doing but with bandwidth shaping with dummynet. I think that it can get a bit tricky when figuring out the right bucket size,

Re: [WISPA] Clearwire being sued for poor service, ETFs

2009-04-24 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Maybe it uses GPS sync? Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 10:43 PM To: WISPA General List

[WISPA] SALES LEAD: GA

2009-04-24 Thread Aaron D. Osgood
As published by Georgia Municipal Association PO Box 105377 Atlanta, GA 30348 404-688-0472 678-686-6289 - FAX (http://www.glga.org/) D - Wireless Internet Service Provider Hapeville, Georgia Posted: Thursday, April 02, 2009 End Date: Friday, May 01, 2009 The City of Hapeville and the Hapeville A

[WISPA] 1 AP and 2 antennas

2009-04-24 Thread Adam Goodman
Hi, I would like to set up 2 antennas (East and West more or less) but will not get more than 30 subs between the 2. I would like to connect both antennas to one AP. Normally, I would not even dream of doing this. However this is a small valey with low interferance. And all the subs will be very cl

Re: [WISPA] 1 AP and 2 antennas

2009-04-24 Thread eje
When you use a splitter you loose 3dB in signal (hal you power since it's being split). If that is ok then you could do so. /Eje --Original Message-- From: Adam Goodman Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org To: WISPA General List ReplyTo: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] 1 AP and 2 ante

Re: [WISPA] 1 AP and 2 antennas

2009-04-24 Thread Scott Reed
Device would be called a splitter/combiner. Just remember, power to each antenna will be 1/2 of the output of the radio. Adam Goodman wrote: > Hi, > I would like to set up 2 antennas (East and West more or less) but > will not get more than 30 subs between the 2. I would like to connect > both ant

[WISPA] Trango 900

2009-04-24 Thread Cameron Kilton
Anybody have some Trango 900 SU's used or new they are willing to sell. Looking for 5 or so. Contact me offlist. -Cameron WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -

Re: [WISPA] 1 AP and 2 antennas

2009-04-24 Thread Adam Goodman
Thanks guys. Loosing 3db is probably not an issue since I was going to lower the tx power anyway doe to the distance to the subs. found this for $50. says its good for 0-6ghz. does it need to be tuned to a specific freq? http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=20865 Now all I need to do is test and se

Re: [WISPA] 3650Mhz and Wimax Vendors

2009-04-24 Thread John Scrivner
No. Scriv On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 11:21 PM, Chuck Bartosch wrote: > John, > > Is this with diversity antennas? > > Chuck > > On Apr 23, 2009, at 4:41 PM, John Scrivner wrote: > >> I was not saying you CANNOT possibly do that distance. It was being >> referenced as a typical cell radius spec for

Re: [WISPA] 1 AP and 2 antennas

2009-04-24 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
One thing you need to be careful of is both pieces of coax need to be tuned to the proper length so that the antennas are "in-phase" with each other. Otherwise you will have multiple signals hitting the receivers of your clients and AP at different times. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Buc

[WISPA] Mikrotik question

2009-04-24 Thread Cameron Kilton
I was playing around on one of our wireless interfaces and couldn't help but notice the options in the wireless tab for: Default AP Tx Rate: And Default Client TX Rate: Any insight on what this does? I couldn't seem to find much info on it. Thanks, Cameron

Re: [WISPA] Can a village levy a tax on my AP's?

2009-04-24 Thread Aaron D. Osgood
"Income" tax or "personal property" tax? Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with Nextel Direct Connect -Original Message- From: John Scrivner Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 11:09:15 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Can a village levy a tax on my AP's? I would suggest taking this u

Re: [WISPA] Can a village levy a tax on my AP's?

2009-04-24 Thread Al Schneider
If a town , county , village is authorized to levy Personal Property taxes under their state law they can tax you. AL Schneider -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Aaron D. Osgood Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 12:19 PM To

Re: [WISPA] 1 AP and 2 antennas

2009-04-24 Thread John Scrivner
Use a standoff bracket to mount an omni. Scriv On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 8:49 AM, Adam Goodman wrote: > Hi, > I would like to set up 2 antennas (East and West more or less) but > will not get more than 30 subs between the 2. I would like to connect > both antennas to one AP. Normally, I would not

Re: [WISPA] Can a village levy a tax on my AP's?

2009-04-24 Thread jp
You should know that a contract doesn't make anyone exempt from taxes, only death does that. It's probably personal property tax. Many places charge property tax which includes things like being taxed on the value of your land/home, excise tax for the car, and personal property tax. Personal pr

[WISPA] Can a village levy a tax on my AP's?

2009-04-24 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
I recently set up an AP on a nearby village's water tower and they are now sending me income tax papers saying I need file with their village. Our office is not in their village and I don't live in their village so I see no reason for filing. The only thing that ties me to them is the lone AP on th

Re: [WISPA] Can a village levy a tax on my AP's?

2009-04-24 Thread John Scrivner
I would suggest taking this up with your attorney. Scriv On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: > I recently set up an AP on a nearby village's water tower and they are now > sending me income tax papers saying I need file with their village. Our > office is not in their villag

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question

2009-04-24 Thread Dennis Burgess - LTI
Why you take a RouterOS class :) But regardless, if you ahve a MT client, it will set the TX and RX speeds for the clients by default. YOu can set that by MAC as well, so you can control the bandwidth from the AP to the CPE. * --- Dennis

Re: [WISPA] Can a village levy a tax on my AP's?

2009-04-24 Thread eje
Talk with your CPA. /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: "Kurt Fankhauser" Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 11:55:44 To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Can a village levy a tax on my AP's? I recently set up an AP on a nearby village's water tower and they are

Re: [WISPA] Can a village levy a tax on my AP's?

2009-04-24 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
This is for "income tax" we do not have personal property tax in Ohio... yet. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Aaron D. Osgood Sent:

Re: [WISPA] 1 AP and 2 antennas

2009-04-24 Thread os10rules
Plus the actual loss in the splitter. It's going to eat some of the signal. Greg On Apr 24, 2009, at 10:04 AM, e...@wisp-router.com wrote: > When you use a splitter you loose 3dB in signal (hal you power since > it's being split). If that is ok then you could do so. > > /Eje > --Original

Re: [WISPA] Can a village levy a tax on my AP's?

2009-04-24 Thread Cliff Leboeuf
"You should know that a contract doesn't make anyone exempt from taxes, only death does that." Not even death exempts one from all taxes... Ever hear of "inheritance" or "estate" taxes? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf O

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question

2009-04-24 Thread Jayson Baker
Rate-limiting. But only works with MT clients. (i.e. not other WiFi clients) On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Cameron Kilton wrote: > I was playing around on one of our wireless interfaces and couldn't help > but notice the options in the wireless tab for: > > Default AP Tx Rate: > And > Defa

[WISPA] VoIP.com

2009-04-24 Thread Bobby Burrow
Does anyone here have any experience or background information on these guys? Thanks, Bobby WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ ---

[WISPA] Fiber/Coax Deployment, Common Carrier?

2009-04-24 Thread jree...@18-30chat.net
If you deploy a fiber only network, or a coaxial only network (100% IP) are you forced into being a common carrier? The way way I read it, no you do not. The way a partner reads it, Yes, you do/can be. I know many people here have talked about doing/have done fiber/coax deployments. Where did y

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question

2009-04-24 Thread Dennis Burgess - LTI
AP TX rate works on any client, but you have to have MT for the client TX rate .. :) * --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP

Re: [WISPA] Fiber/Coax Deployment, Common Carrier?

2009-04-24 Thread Mike Hammett
All that I know if that's required depends on state\local regulations as to if you're required to be a CLEC or franchise or not. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 12:4

Re: [WISPA] 1 AP and 2 antennas

2009-04-24 Thread Tom DeReggi
Adam, It can work, but there are a couple notes and problems Its probably not a good idea to do with 900Mhz. However, it has been done, examples are Hyperlinktech's quad or Maxrad's tri antenna arrays for 2.4g and 5.8G. First, you'd be violating FCC regs, as that combination would not be c

Re: [WISPA] VoIP.com

2009-04-24 Thread Ron Harden
They have 359 reviews on this site: www.voipreview.org/review.all.aspx. For full disclosure, please note that Vox is a competitor (in that we both promote the same services). But whenever I want to see what users say about a VoIP provider, I go to this generic site. As always, do your due dil

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question

2009-04-24 Thread Butch Evans
On Fri, 2009-04-24 at 12:22 -0400, Cameron Kilton wrote: > I was playing around on one of our wireless interfaces and couldn't help > but notice the options in the wireless tab for: > > Default AP Tx Rate: > And > Default Client TX Rate: These 2 options set default rates for how much bandwidth is

[WISPA] Interesting BGP Redundancy Opton for FREE

2009-04-24 Thread Scott Carullo
Ok... I have multiple peers, bgp, etc... Normal stuff. I am looking for someone who has MT, has bgp peers but maybe would like to have a little more redundancy just in case. For example our main router with both peers is in the same facility so I still currently have some single point of fa

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question

2009-04-24 Thread Cameron Kilton
What is the best way to provide speed limit per clients where they are not all MT clients? I would like to have something setup where every connected client gets so much bandwidth. I would like something that is automated nothing that has to be done every time. I know you can do this with hotspot

[WISPA] Remote Server Backup Swap

2009-04-24 Thread Scott Carullo
I'm looking to place a server in someones data center that can do the same with me. I have a requirement to have data backup up outside or county and even out of state better for disaster recovery. If you have a desire to do the same and we can swap services and make a buck or two from additi

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question

2009-04-24 Thread Scott Carullo
MT Queues Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 Original Message > From: "Cameron Kilton" > Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 3:58 PM > To: "WISPA General List" > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question > > What is the best way to provide speed limit per clients where th

Re: [WISPA] Fiber/Coax Deployment, Common Carrier?

2009-04-24 Thread Tom DeReggi
Good question Might be a good reason to seperate the Cable versus Wireless portions of activities into two seperate company entities. Even on a Grant app, there could be benefits to calling it a joint application, and seperating the cable versus wireless entities. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wi

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question

2009-04-24 Thread Scott Reed
You can setup the hotspot to authenticate based on MAC address via RADIUS. Have the RADIUS server send back the speed limit (and bursting if so desired). The AP will create a dynamic simple queue for the client. When the client goes away, so does the queue. Cameron Kilton wrote: > What is t

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question

2009-04-24 Thread Jason Hensley
RADIUS and PPPoE. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Kilton Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 3:06 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question What is the best way to provide speed limit per clien

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question

2009-04-24 Thread Cameron Kilton
We don't use radius or PPPoE. We provide every customer with a static address. I like the idea of a dynamic queue is there a way to create dynamic queues for connected clients? -Cameron -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question

2009-04-24 Thread Butch Evans
On Fri, 2009-04-24 at 16:05 -0400, Cameron Kilton wrote: > What is the best way to provide speed limit per clients where they are > not all MT clients? This can be done via queues. That's a better solution than the layer2 approach anyway (sort of). > I would like to have something setup where e

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question

2009-04-24 Thread Butch Evans
On Fri, 2009-04-24 at 16:46 -0400, Cameron Kilton wrote: > I like the idea of a dynamic queue is there a way to create dynamic > queues for connected clients? One other method I just thought of is PCQ. PCQ is a queue type that will allow you to classify a customer by IP address (in mangle) and th

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question

2009-04-24 Thread Dennis Burgess
Since you don't use Radius etc, PCQ rules are the best way of going. They will give equal bandwidth for each person. Cameron Kilton wrote: > We don't use radius or PPPoE. We provide every customer with a static > address. > > I like the idea of a dynamic queue is there a way to create dynamic >

Re: [WISPA] Interesting BGP Redundancy Opton for FREE

2009-04-24 Thread Dennis Burgess
We do this quite a bit with smaller wisps, place a PowerRouter at a NOC, and send IPs and data to them via cable/dsl whatever. All of their publics work regardless of the connections and we also allow them to use multiple connections too. we are rolling out a number of shared systems like tha

Re: [WISPA] Interesting BGP Redundancy Opton for FREE

2009-04-24 Thread Tom DeReggi
Also remember the 1500 byte MTU issue. Over a Layer2 PTP its usually not an issue, but it is over a standard transit connection. (customer and Internet needs to see 1500 bytes, but an ISP's tunnel causes packet size to exceed 1500 MTU. Customer end devices have the option of lowering their MTU to

Re: [WISPA] 1 AP and 2 antennas

2009-04-24 Thread Blair Davis
Assuming you plan to use sectors, make sure that the sectors are very isolated from each other... But, with the ranges you are talking about, why bother with 2 antennas? one good omni should do fine... Adam Goodman wrote: Hi, I would like to set up 2 antennas (East and West more or less)

Re: [WISPA] Interesting BGP Redundancy Opton for FREE

2009-04-24 Thread Butch Evans
On Fri, 2009-04-24 at 19:37 -0400, Tom DeReggi wrote: > Over a Layer2 PTP its usually not an issue, but it is over a standard > transit connection. > (customer and Internet needs to see 1500 bytes, but an ISP's tunnel causes > packet size to exceed 1500 MTU. I have built tunnels that carry 12000

[WISPA] affordable 2.4 GHz repeaters

2009-04-24 Thread Rogelio
I've got a situation where I need some lower end affordable 2.4 GHz repeaters, and the itch can't really be scratched with a customer CPE device (such as a Ruckus or Tranzeo). Anyone have any 2.4 GHz repeaters that they can recommend? There won't be many people connecting in that area, so I'm

[WISPA] Signal Strengths

2009-04-24 Thread Jason Wallace
Everyone, I had trouble during an install today regarding signal strengths. 2.4Ghz CPE in a location that should be no problem. Moving the CPE two feet in any direction from the point where the CPE was installed increased the signal by around 20db (-90 to -70!) Any idea of what phenomen

Re: [WISPA] affordable 2.4 GHz repeaters

2009-04-24 Thread Jerry Richardson
Engenius and ubiquity Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications Sent from mobile device -Original Message- From: Rogelio Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 8:21 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] affordable 2.4 GHz repeaters I've got a situation where I need some lower end affordable

Re: [WISPA] affordable 2.4 GHz repeaters

2009-04-24 Thread Josh Luthman
Low cost and 2.4 sounds like MT to me. On 4/24/09, Rogelio wrote: > I've got a situation where I need some lower end affordable 2.4 GHz > repeaters, and the itch can't really be scratched with a customer CPE > device (such as a Ruckus or Tranzeo). > > Anyone have any 2.4 GHz repeaters that they c

Re: [WISPA] affordable 2.4 GHz repeaters

2009-04-24 Thread Josh Luthman
I would avoid Engenius. Heard a lot of good things abot the Ubnt stuff, especially the bullet. On 4/25/09, Jerry Richardson wrote: > Engenius and ubiquity > > Jerry Richardson > airCloud Communications > Sent from mobile device > > -Original Message- > From: Rogelio > Sent: Friday, Apri