Re: [WISPA] residential repeater site contract

2009-06-25 Thread RickG
You're welcome! Use at your own risk. This was originally from a lawyer approved tower agreement and edited to provide for a simple contract for residential repeaters. They need simple! All that fine print overwhelms them! -RickG On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 5:00 PM, sa...@jeffcosoho.com wrote: > Thanx

Re: [WISPA] residential repeater site contract

2009-06-25 Thread RickG
All good points. I put a box complete with power and ethernet switch on the outside of HWSC so I can control everything. I also try to stay away from roof top mounts. I'd rather be on a grain silo, short tower., or even a barn than track on someone's shingles. -RickG On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 1:34 P

Re: [WISPA] 2 set of bullet5's and 2 hp2524's + LACP = Problems?

2009-06-25 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Can't do much till we find out what the rules are. The maps turned out great though! Thanks again for the help. I might have to hit you up again so I can do a new version that allows for a smaller area since we can't zoom in and out on this one. >From what I'm seeing these days I may not

Re: [WISPA] 2 set of bullet5's and 2 hp2524's + LACP = Problems?

2009-06-25 Thread Jerry Richardson
Excellent point - I have always said less is more How's the County wifi project coming? __ Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Scha

Re: [WISPA] dual ethernte port router

2009-06-25 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
I've been putting in the 9 port (yeah I know it's more than you want but that gives you more power and memory) MT units. They are AMAZING. So far. marlon - Original Message - From: "Alan Long" To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:59 PM Subject: [WISPA] du

Re: [WISPA] 2 set of bullet5's and 2 hp2524's + LACP = Problems?

2009-06-25 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
I try to keep mine in the -65 to -75 range. Why? Multipath will often be around 30db less than your main signal. You want to try to keep the main signal low enough that the average multipath is below the receiver threshold. marlon - Original Message - From: "Andy Trimmell" To: "WIS

Re: [WISPA] dual ethernte port router

2009-06-25 Thread John Thomas
If you are ONLY going to route, no NAT, firewall or other stuff, then a Cisco 871 will do what you want. We have tested it at wirespeed. John Alan Long wrote: > Anyone have a suggestion for a dual ethernet port router, that can handle > 30-50mb/s of traffic. I do not need it to do nat or anythi

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Re: [WISPA] residential repeater site contract

2009-06-25 Thread sa...@jeffcosoho.com
Thanx Rick Jim RickG wrote: > Attached...RickG > > On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 5:39 PM, sa...@jeffcosoho.com > wrote: > > >> Anyone have a contract they could share for this? >> >> Thanx >> Jim >> >> >> >> >> >> WISP

Re: [WISPA] dual ethernte port router

2009-06-25 Thread Randy Cosby
Might as well go with the 450G for gigabit ports, more memory, etc. Gino Villarini wrote: > Mikrotik rb450 $99 > > > Gino A. Villarini > g...@aeronetpr.com > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.or

Re: [WISPA] 2 set of bullet5's and 2 hp2524's + LACP = Problems?

2009-06-25 Thread jp
Now, you have no encryption. On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 12:47:13PM -0400, Josh Luthman wrote: > Before - station mode (in other terms, bridge mode with arp proxy) > > After - station wds mode (a real layer 2 bridge this time =) > > Ubiquiti AirOS calls them station, station wds and router. > > Jo

Re: [WISPA] Macintosh computer trouble shoot docs.

2009-06-25 Thread Josh Luthman
Honestly just Google the steps. Lots of schools have them. On 6/25/09, Alan Long wrote: > Anyone have a doc that describes basic wireless card troubleshooting for > users who have macs? We are staring to see more users with macs and our > support is not that familiar with these. Thanks for any h

Re: [WISPA] dual ethernte port router

2009-06-25 Thread Gino Villarini
Mikrotik rb450 $99 Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Alan Long Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 3:59 PM To: 'WISPA

[WISPA] dual ethernte port router

2009-06-25 Thread Alan Long
Anyone have a suggestion for a dual ethernet port router, that can handle 30-50mb/s of traffic. I do not need it to do nat or anything like that, just need it to route..I have looked at a cisco 2811..but know there are other options..Thanks for any help.

[WISPA] Macintosh computer trouble shoot docs.

2009-06-25 Thread Alan Long
Anyone have a doc that describes basic wireless card troubleshooting for users who have macs? We are staring to see more users with macs and our support is not that familiar with these. Thanks for any help anyone may can offer.. Alan Long Director of Net

Re: [WISPA] LNP Services

2009-06-25 Thread Ron Harden
I think that Synchronoss Technologies, Inc. provides porting services Kathy. -Original Message- From: Kathy Tate [mailto:kt...@onlinenw.com] Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 1:26 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] LNP Services We are a WISP and a CLEC and have our own SS7 gatewa

Re: [WISPA] residential repeater site contract

2009-06-25 Thread D. Ryan Spott
My repeater contact is simple. If un-served-behind-the-big-rock-customer (USBTBR) wants service, they need to talk to their neighbor about it. If they establish some sort dialog, then the house-with-service-customer (HWSC) calls me to tell me it is OK. I find that this makes it a community/nei

[WISPA] LNP Services

2009-06-25 Thread Kathy Tate
We are a WISP and a CLEC and have our own SS7 gateway that we have used for our dialup base. We are in the process of launching our own voice service utilizing our existing SS7 gateway. I would like to outsource the LNP process. I was hoping someone might have a vendor recommendation. Thank yo

Re: [WISPA] 2 set of bullet5's and 2 hp2524's + LACP = Problems?

2009-06-25 Thread Josh Luthman
Before - station mode (in other terms, bridge mode with arp proxy) After - station wds mode (a real layer 2 bridge this time =) Ubiquiti AirOS calls them station, station wds and router. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you hav

Re: [WISPA] 2 set of bullet5's and 2 hp2524's + LACP = Problems?

2009-06-25 Thread RickG
As many have responded the signal is way too high. Also, I'm curious if you have the Bullets in 'bridge mode' or 'route mode'? -RickG On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Ryan Ghering wrote: > Hello all, I got an issue that I haven't delt with before. > > note we HAVE done this scenario before just w

Re: [WISPA] 2 set of bullet5's and 2 hp2524's + LACP = Problems?

2009-06-25 Thread Andy Trimmell
I also found out that if you drop it down below 3db gain the MT won't connect anymore even if the signal strength is good enough or not. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Ghering Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:25 PM

Re: [WISPA] 2 set of bullet5's and 2 hp2524's + LACP = Problems?

2009-06-25 Thread Ryan Ghering
Yea I got that, I've got both links now at -58 had to lower the power down big time. Ryan On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Andy Trimmell wrote: > Did you get what he was saying about the signal strength? You're going > to want your signal around -60 or so. I think anything above -50 really > ca

Re: [WISPA] 2 set of bullet5's and 2 hp2524's + LACP = Problems?

2009-06-25 Thread Andy Trimmell
Did you get what he was saying about the signal strength? You're going to want your signal around -60 or so. I think anything above -50 really causes noise problems. I had to go through and audit many units on our network just because of the pollution is causes when several backhauls and clients ar

Re: [WISPA] 2 set of bullet5's and 2 hp2524's + LACP = Problems?

2009-06-25 Thread Ryan Ghering
I didn't have the radios is WDS mode, its works perfectly now. Although I still can't get to the units after LACP is linked. Gota find a way around that. Ryan On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 9:02 AM, Bret Clark wrote: > Make sure all your ports at set in at the same ethernet link speed that > are runni

Re: [WISPA] residential repeater site contract

2009-06-25 Thread Josh Luthman
Thank you for sharing, Rick! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth." --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 9:22 PM, RickG wr

Re: [WISPA] 2 set of bullet5's and 2 hp2524's + LACP = Problems?

2009-06-25 Thread Bret Clark
Make sure all your ports at set in at the same ethernet link speed that are running lacp.  For testing does it work if you run RSTP instead? jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: Are the bullets in WDS mode, if not you will have proxy ARP for one direction and not the other. This will really mess w

Re: [WISPA] 2 set of bullet5's and 2 hp2524's + LACP = Problems?

2009-06-25 Thread Josh Luthman
Ryan, Let me say this differently. I'm not saying it's bad that your bragging, I'm saying that the signal strength could be "too high". If you put two antennas adjacent and get a 0 or -1 signal strength you get significant packet gain because the hardware can't keep up with the RF. I suck at wo

Re: [WISPA] 2 set of bullet5's and 2 hp2524's + LACP = Problems?

2009-06-25 Thread jree...@18-30chat.net
Are the bullets in WDS mode, if not you will have proxy ARP for one direction and not the other. This will really mess with routing/link protocols. Fire up wireshark and post a short capture (starting before adding the links to right after adding them). If you add just one link or the other, does

Re: [WISPA] 2 set of bullet5's and 2 hp2524's + LACP = Problems?

2009-06-25 Thread jp
I think the ubnt radios alter or do some funny magic with the mac addresses when bridging. For a clear bridge, try using them in wds, which will of course prevent adequate security. I would also turn the power down a little, -28 will do more harm than good especially if you're trying to put two

Re: [WISPA] 2 set of bullet5's and 2 hp2524's + LACP = Problems?

2009-06-25 Thread Ryan Ghering
Josh, my apologizes, I wasn't trying to be impolite, or a braggart, just stating facts so that all relevant info is on the table. Ryan On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > First off a signal strength of -28 or -30 is like someone screaming in your > face, kind of impolite. Som

Re: [WISPA] 2 set of bullet5's and 2 hp2524's + LACP = Problems?

2009-06-25 Thread Josh Luthman
First off a signal strength of -28 or -30 is like someone screaming in your face, kind of impolite. Someone mentioned in the recent past that a customer with -55 needed to be toned down to B from G because of how close they were and the link was significantly better. I wouldn't expect it's part o

[WISPA] 2 set of bullet5's and 2 hp2524's + LACP = Problems?

2009-06-25 Thread Ryan Ghering
Hello all, I got an issue that I haven't delt with before. note we HAVE done this scenario before just with diff radios and it worked. The Setup.. we have a 3/4 mile long radio shot to one of our towers that we wanted to increase bandwidth to as well as give it some redundancy. So we bought 2 li

Re: [WISPA] MT backup system, need script clues

2009-06-25 Thread jp
Make sure you're not using a serial terminal to paste it in. The MT, perhaps from lack of flow control doesn't take well to large amounts of text being pasted in at high speed via serial. Paste things from ssh/telnet As far as backing up hotspot, I make the hotspot files on the computer (easier

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