[WISPA] Need some ideas about a high performance wireless mobile with roaming

2009-07-08 Thread Gustavo Santos
Hi, I need to broadcast two live video streams , each one with about 6mbits (12mbits total upload bandwitdh ). A truck with a camera and the wireless device need to upload the live streaminig for about 5 miles circuit. That circuit is all covered with fiber optic so repeaters can be used. I

Re: [WISPA] OT: Cordless VOIP Phone

2009-07-08 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
Same here with a baby monitor we have. I love it. Brian Brian Webster wrote: My GE DECT 6.0 phones have range far better than any other cordless phone I've owned. It's a huge difference. Thank You, Brian Webster -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

[WISPA] Fw: [TowerTalk] Field Day tower fatality

2009-07-08 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Lets be careful out there guys. Even when you do it right things happen. marlon - Original Message - From: k7...@aol.com To: cq-cont...@contesting.com Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 12:16 PM Subject: [TowerTalk] Field Day tower fatality I just got this and hadn't heard about it. Sad

Re: [WISPA] Fw: [TowerTalk] Field Day tower fatality

2009-07-08 Thread Josh Luthman
Wow, it bent at the base?! On 7/8/09, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: Lets be careful out there guys. Even when you do it right things happen. marlon - Original Message - From: k7...@aol.com To: cq-cont...@contesting.com Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 12:16 PM

Re: [WISPA] Fw: [TowerTalk] Field Day tower fatality

2009-07-08 Thread Rick Kunze
On 7/8/2009 5:45 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Wow, it bent at the base?! My thoughts too. There had to be a cause; there's more to the story. But hamfests are usually run by guys that generally know what they're doing so that does lead one to ponder. Geez, and I climb some pretty old towers

Re: [WISPA] OT: Cordless VOIP Phone

2009-07-08 Thread Curtis Maurand
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3905745CatId=1626SRCCODE=WEBBP1218cm_mmc=Email-_-Retro-_-WEBBP1218-_-storage Gary Garrett wrote: Nice! where can I get a 1 Watt Amp for 1900mhz? The only way I've gotten decent range out of a DECT phone is by

Re: [WISPA] Fw: [TowerTalk] Field Day tower fatality

2009-07-08 Thread richard sterne
San news. Richard 2009/7/8 Rick Kunze rku...@colusanet.com On 7/8/2009 5:45 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Wow, it bent at the base?! My thoughts too. There had to be a cause; there's more to the story. But hamfests are usually run by guys that generally know what they're doing so that does

Re: [WISPA] Fw: [TowerTalk] Field Day tower fatality

2009-07-08 Thread jp
It appears they use a couple different towers. The matter has my interest as well. I wouldn't expect a tower to bend at the base. Perhaps it was the crankup portable tower, as the news article discussed different accounts of 30' and 60' towers, and that could possibly do both heights. Those

Re: [WISPA] ntop

2009-07-08 Thread Rutis, Cameron
I haven't worked with it yet but cisco's IP SLA feature can generate a MOS score http://www.cisco.com/en/US/technologies/tk648/tk362/tk920/technologies_white_paper0900aecd801752ec.html -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of

Re: [WISPA] ntop

2009-07-08 Thread Matt Liotta
Good call... I forgot all about IP SLA. We can easily query that via SNMP. -Matt On Jul 8, 2009, at 11:35 AM, Rutis, Cameron wrote: I haven't worked with it yet but cisco's IP SLA feature can generate a MOS score

Re: [WISPA] Fw: [TowerTalk] Field Day tower fatality

2009-07-08 Thread Jack Unger
This guy sounded like a pro so he likely was climbing safely. What can cause a Field Day tower to bend at the base? 1. Overloading a tower with too many large HF antennas is certainly a possibility during Field Day. 2. The tower may have been old and rusted inside although perhaps the rust

[WISPA] Verizon DSL

2009-07-08 Thread Steve Barnes
Our Local Verizon DSL is having all kinds of problems today not being able to see all websites or email servers. Anyone else seeing this issue? Not going to Network Solutions hosting or iXWEBHOSTING. Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From:

Re: [WISPA] Verizon DSL

2009-07-08 Thread RickG
North Korea hackers... On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Steve Barnesst...@pcswin.com wrote: Our Local Verizon DSL is having all kinds of problems today not being able to see all websites or email servers.  Anyone else seeing this issue? Not going to Network Solutions hosting or iXWEBHOSTING.

Re: [WISPA] Fw: [TowerTalk] Field Day tower fatality

2009-07-08 Thread Bradley D. Thornton
That's really unfortunate, but part of the issue. Field Day and other Ham Fest activities are kinda like an annual racing regatta. I've always been a cruiser, but racers get out the slide rules and factor the smallest guage for their shrouds, stays, and other standing rigging just to cut back

[WISPA] Opinions on LingoWave LW-PTP-5-23

2009-07-08 Thread Ron Calhoun
I'm in the market for a new set of backhauls and my sales rep is trying to talk to into a set of LingoWave LW-PTP-5-23 units. Does anybody have an opinion on this LingoWave product? I operate in a fairly noisy environment and have the need to pass about 20-30 mbps. -- ~Ron Calhoun KCnet

Re: [WISPA] Opinions on LingoWave LW-PTP-5-23

2009-07-08 Thread Josh Luthman
I've heard great things about Ligowave's products, especially when you don't need 100s of megs it is a good option. No personal experience with them though. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible,

Re: [WISPA] Opinions on LingoWave LW-PTP-5-23

2009-07-08 Thread Randy Cosby
I really like mineBut, being in a noisy area, you may want to consider something that is approved for 5.3/5.4 like Trango or Tranzeo. Of course distance will be a factor with those. Josh Luthman wrote: I've heard great things about Ligowave's products, especially when you don't need

Re: [WISPA] Opinions on LingoWave LW-PTP-5-23

2009-07-08 Thread can...@believewireless.net
I'd highly recommend the Trango TLink-45s. On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Randy Cosbydco...@infowest.com wrote: I really like mineBut, being in a noisy area, you may want to consider something that is approved for 5.3/5.4 like Trango or Tranzeo. Of course distance will be a factor with

Re: [WISPA] Opinions on LingoWave LW-PTP-5-23

2009-07-08 Thread Josh Luthman
Perhaps you could share the distance between the two sites and you can get better information (ie, my works super 50 megs at 1 mile but terrible 100k at 3 miles) and possibly receive alternative options. For 5ghz you may want to look at MikroTik, too. I have two dual polarity 5ghz links that

[WISPA] Today's webinar

2009-07-08 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Thanks Steve! Great job on the seminar. That was very helpful. I wish it made the decision to go or no go easier. This looks like a good thing but one with a lot of risk. marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today!

Re: [WISPA] Opinions on LingoWave LW-PTP-5-23

2009-07-08 Thread Ron Calhoun
I'm shooting from my office to my tower site which is about 4 miles away. I am currently using WaveRider 900MHz gear and Tranzeo 5GHz gear along with a canopy 5.2GHz link. On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Josh Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Perhaps you could share the distance between

Re: [WISPA] Opinions on LingoWave LW-PTP-5-23

2009-07-08 Thread Josh Luthman
If I were in your shoes a 4 mile link with 5.8Ghz that needs 20 to 30 megs I would build a MikroTik kit myself. Cost is really tough to beat (figure $1k per side on the high end) I'd suggest the 433AH and XR5 or WLM54AG with the dual pol Pac dishes. If you want my full parts list let me know.

Re: [WISPA] Opinions on LingoWave LW-PTP-5-23

2009-07-08 Thread Ron Calhoun
This LingoWave equipment is promising true TCP throughput up to 70 Mbps with a 40MHz wide channel at 5 miles for a little less than $1k. 40Mbps with a 20MHz wide channel (what i use with my tranzeo gear). On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Josh Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: If I were

Re: [WISPA] Opinions on LingoWave LW-PTP-5-23

2009-07-08 Thread Josh Luthman
FWIW someone in the School needs 100mbps thread mentioned they use 433 and R52 to get 80-90 megs using 40mhz channels Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable,

Re: [WISPA] Opinions on LingoWave LW-PTP-5-23

2009-07-08 Thread Jerry Richardson
Prices are per end. I have not used Ligo personally. A friend of mine has 10 sets in the air and swears by them. You might want to use connectorized radios and panel antennas, particularly if you plan to standardize. If you have connectorized radios, then you only need one spare on the shelf.

Re: [WISPA] Opinions on LingoWave LW-PTP-5-23

2009-07-08 Thread Travis Johnson
That would be using two R52 cards on each side (so 80mhz of channel total). Using MT, the most I have seen using 40mhz channel size is 60Mbps. Travis Microserv Josh Luthman wrote: FWIW someone in the "School needs 100mbps" thread mentioned they use 433 and R52 to get 80-90 megs using

Re: [WISPA] Opinions on LingoWave LW-PTP-5-23

2009-07-08 Thread Josh Luthman
Travis is right, 80mhz of spectrum (ya...) Are you saying you saw 60 megs on ONE 40mhz link?! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. ---

Re: [WISPA] Opinions on LingoWave LW-PTP-5-23

2009-07-08 Thread Travis Johnson
Yes. I have personally done 60Mbps of actual traffic across a MT using 40mhz of spectrum (only going 1 mile with a -60 signal and using P4 systems on each end). I was also testing "through" the radio link, not using the actual radios themselves to test. Travis Microserv Josh Luthman wrote:

Re: [WISPA] Opinions on LingoWave LW-PTP-5-23

2009-07-08 Thread Josh Luthman
Cool! Thank you for the input! On 7/8/09, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: Yes. I have personally done 60Mbps of actual traffic across a MT using 40mhz of spectrum (only going 1 mile with a -60 signal and using P4 systems on each end). I was also testing through the radio link, not using

Re: [WISPA] Opinions on LingoWave LW-PTP-5-23

2009-07-08 Thread Scott Carullo
2 rb411 will yield same results Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x102 On Jul 8, 2009, at 6:52 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: Yes. I have personally done 60Mbps of actual traffic across a MT using 40mhz of spectrum (only going 1 mile with a -60 signal and using P4

Re: [WISPA] Opinions on LingoWave LW-PTP-5-23

2009-07-08 Thread Josh Luthman
411/433 or 411ah/433ah? 60 megs sounds like a bit much for the non-AH boards, but I never tested. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth.

Re: [WISPA] Opinions on LingoWave LW-PTP-5-23

2009-07-08 Thread Scott Carullo
The regular 411 will work fine, the limitation is not the processor. But having said that, a little extra horsepower on a higher capacity link never hurt either ;) Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 Original Message From: Josh Luthman

Re: [WISPA] Opinions on LingoWave LW-PTP-5-23

2009-07-08 Thread Josh Luthman
I agree. I'd spend another $100 and get all that extra memory and CPU speed in case I need to do whatever. Once it's up there, it's pretty much up there. Rather spend and waste that $100 not needing it then need it having to spend a lot of time, money and risk another climb! PSA: BE SAFE!

[WISPA] Routerboard 333 vs 433

2009-07-08 Thread Blair Davis
anybody got any real world experience of the performance difference between the RB 333 vs the RB 433? The 333 has a 333MHz PowerPC and the 433 has a Atheros AR7130 300MHz...But which is faster in the real world? How about the RB 532A with the MIPS 32 4kc at 266MHz? Hard to compare different

[WISPA] 2.3 - 2.5 GHz panel

2009-07-08 Thread Jayson Baker
Hello, Looking for a panel antenna that will operate from 2.3GHz - 2.5GHz for a licensed link (not in the US). Something with a fairly narrow beamwidth, say around 22-degrees, and at least 16dBi of gain. The PacWireless RooTenna does 2.3-2.7, but we have no use/desire for the enclosure, so it's

Re: [WISPA] Routerboard 333 vs 433

2009-07-08 Thread Josh Luthman
333 is junk all around, quick or not. How many 3xx boards do you see? 532 is extremely fast but has a long history of losing the ethernet half of eth1. There are many people including myself that had to climb up many towers to put two pairs on eth2 because this. 433 is good. Nothing stands

[WISPA] 3.65ghz antennas

2009-07-08 Thread reader
What are people using for 3.65ghz antennas? I'm seeing rather poor performance from my Arc Wireless 18db panels.The signal vs distance isn't coming out anywhere close to right. That is the specified antenna type and gain for the certification, but the RSSI is far weaker than it should

Re: [WISPA] 3.65ghz antennas

2009-07-08 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, I have about 10 of the ARC wireless 3.65ghz 18db panels installed. All of them are within the path calcs (and the last point to point link was actually 6db better than the path calc). What are the specs of the radio card, distance, etc.? Travis Microserv rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote:

Re: [WISPA] Routerboard 333 vs 433

2009-07-08 Thread Travis Johnson
The 333 boards are crap. We installed about 15 of them before we realized all the problems (overheating, flaky ethernet, etc.). We have over 1,000 of the RB411's installed and they work great. Travis Microserv Blair Davis wrote: anybody got any real world experience of the performance

Re: [WISPA] 3.65ghz antennas

2009-07-08 Thread Josh Luthman
How far off is it? Maybe the pigtails are all shotty? On 7/8/09, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: Hi, I have about 10 of the ARC wireless 3.65ghz 18db panels installed. All of them are within the path calcs (and the last point to point link was actually 6db better than the path calc).

Re: [WISPA] Routerboard 333 vs 433

2009-07-08 Thread Josh Luthman
411 and 433 are the same short of two extra ethernet ports and mini pci afaik. I'm with Travis though, many 411 CPEs. On 7/8/09, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: The 333 boards are crap. We installed about 15 of them before we realized all the problems (overheating, flaky ethernet, etc.).

Re: [WISPA] Routerboard 333 vs 433

2009-07-08 Thread Scott Reed
No hard data, but I have replaced 532 and 532A with 333 and seen better link performance. I have replaced 333 with 433 and seen no real difference. Replacing 333 with 433AH probably does, but I really don't have any evidence. Blair Davis wrote: anybody got any real world experience of the

Re: [WISPA] 3.65ghz antennas

2009-07-08 Thread reader
I'm using the ubnt cards and the arc wireless panels that mount directly to the genII enclosure. I don't recall the precise amount off, but if memory serves it is about 5 or 6 db, and I've been to both ends and aimed, reaimed, etc. All the stuff, including piggy's are new...

Re: [WISPA] 3.65ghz antennas

2009-07-08 Thread Josh Luthman
By new pigtails they weren't from the same shipment and same distribution, were they? If any are bad I would expect a line of them to be (from one machine making them kind of thing). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have

Re: [WISPA] Routerboard 333 vs 433

2009-07-08 Thread Kevin Neal
We have the 333 deployed in a bunch of situations, they work pretty well for us, but, for the price go for the 433. 532's were ok, they're old style now and don't have the near the performance of the 3xx or 4xx boards. -Kevin On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Scott

Re: [WISPA] 3.65ghz antennas

2009-07-08 Thread Travis Johnson
What size of channel are you using? What is the distance of the link? What signal are you seeing? Travis Microserv rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: I'm using the ubnt cards and the arc wireless panels that mount directly to the genII enclosure. I don't recall the precise amount off, but

Re: [WISPA] Routerboard 333 vs 433

2009-07-08 Thread Josh Luthman
Well the boot times of the 532 are superior to any other routerboard I've used. Don't know how that reflects on it's performance in PPS as it could simply be a faster storage device. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have

Re: [WISPA] Routerboard 333 vs 433

2009-07-08 Thread Travis Johnson
If I call, the RB600 boots in about 6 seconds from the time the power is applied to the time you get the beeps. We had a link that one of the boards was bad, and was rebooting 4 or 5 times a day, but we never noticed it because it would reboot so fast... Travis Microserv Josh Luthman wrote:

Re: [WISPA] Routerboard 333 vs 433

2009-07-08 Thread Josh Luthman
Never had a rb600 or rb1000 but IIRC the 532 was about that quick too... I have a 532 with a busted radio in it on my desk. I'll time it tomorrow! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which

Re: [WISPA] Routerboard 333 vs 433

2009-07-08 Thread Josh Luthman
But does boot time correlate with PPS? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:11 PM,

Re: [WISPA] Routerboard 333 vs 433

2009-07-08 Thread Kevin Neal
Here's one with the 532 incuded. http://www.routerboard.com/pdf/tests_jan_2008mbps.pdf On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 9:12 PM, Josh Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: But does boot time correlate with PPS? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337

Re: [WISPA] Routerboard 333 vs 433

2009-07-08 Thread Kevin Neal
http://www.mikrotik.com/pdf/RouterBOARD_Price_Performance_Comparison.pdf On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:55 PM, Josh Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Well the boot times of the 532 are superior to any other routerboard I've used.  Don't know how that reflects on it's performance in PPS as it

Re: [WISPA] Routerboard 333 vs 433

2009-07-08 Thread Blair Davis
Thanks for all the comments... I have RB 112,133,230,333,411,433,532 in service. I've lost two 532's to on board power supply failure, one 532 to a direct lighting strike. I've lost one 112 to Ethernet port failure, and a 133 to unknown causes My 333's, 411's and 433's have been flawless.

Re: [WISPA] Routerboard 333 vs 433

2009-07-08 Thread Josh Luthman
Kevin's link http://www.routerboard.com/pdf/tests_jan_2008mbps.pdf says the 333 dominates over the 532 (per MikroTik's testing) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however

Re: [WISPA] Routerboard 333 vs 433

2009-07-08 Thread Kevin Neal
http://www.routerboard.com/pdf/tests_jan_2008pps.pdf Well, pps wise, it looks like the 433 is around 80kpps and the 433 ah is around 140kpps. Best performance pps that the 333 can do is 80kpps. -Kevin On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:37 PM, Josh Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Kevin's