Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-20 Thread Robert West
We're a Linksys dealer but the new routers suck, in my opinion. Better than the belkin or netgear though so for home use, they are fine. We keep stock firmware on the home users and the new ones don't support DD-WRT for the most part anyhow. And yeah, it's easy to walk them through things over t

Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-20 Thread Robert West
You got it. Good in a pinch but not for customers. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 11:50 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions So no more than a

Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-20 Thread Mike Hammett
So no more than any other USB dongle like H1N1 vs. any other flu that has ever existed? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Mike" Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 10:11 PM To: "WISPA General List"

Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-20 Thread Mike
In my experience NO USB wireless dongle has been without their problems. I avoid them like H1N1. At 09:47 PM 9/20/2009, you wrote: >I bought a bunch of those a year ago for 6 bucks each. They use the Ralink >chip. A year ago the drivers were a mess but run okay now, at least the >ones I still

Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-20 Thread Kevin Neal
WRT54G post Cisco buyout, yes, major major problems. One of the things I tell our customers when we sell them the WRT54GL is: We've been in this business and been through a lot of different routers and these WRT54GL's have the best proven track record in our experience. There may be other product

Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-20 Thread Robert West
I bought a bunch of those a year ago for 6 bucks each. They use the Ralink chip. A year ago the drivers were a mess but run okay now, at least the ones I still have. Mine are black, not white. Small though. The driver also supports 5ghz so I thought maybe the ralink chip supported both and the

Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-20 Thread RickG
http://www.edimax.us/ EW-7207APg -RickG On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > I'm looking for suggestions on an 802.11 router with multiple LAN ports where > I can disable the NAT capability...  making it a bridge.  I used to use the > TrendNet TEW-452BRP, but it's EOL and the

Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-20 Thread Robert West
That's why I change the firmware. I have 2 hotels running a bunch of Linksys 160n's with dd-wrt for the past 4 years with no issues. At the time, was the cheapest solution and it's paid off for me. They take care of themselves and they all reboot once a week automatically. -Original Messa

Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-20 Thread Robert West
Never saw that one. Looks to be the thing! Would be my pick. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 6:27 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions Rb75

Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-20 Thread Scott Carullo
I view the money for Mikrotik gear as a sound investment, due to its versatility. I don't mind paying a bit more for it rather than dlink, netgear, trend etc... Also - the RB750 can't be reset by typical user pushing the reset button - I hate that. Oh, it doesn't work lets hit reset button t

Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-20 Thread Josh Luthman
750 is supposed to have Wifi down the road. That's what I was trying to recall. On 9/20/09, Mike Hammett wrote: > Then they wonder why the Internet light isn't on and call because it's down. > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > ---

Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-20 Thread Mike Hammett
Then they wonder why the Internet light isn't on and call because it's down. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Jonathan Schmidt" Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:28 PM To: "'WISPA General List'"

Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-20 Thread Mike Hammett
Wow, attractive router, too bad there's no wireless capability, - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Gino Villarini" Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:27 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [W

Re: [WISPA] BIP-BTOP Grant application executive summaries now onbroadbandusa.gov

2009-09-20 Thread Tim Sylvester
If it is not up there, then the applicant did not submit a public version of their executive summary. They were not required to do it, so they either didn't want to share the info, forgot/didn't have time or they didn't get the message. The e-mail of the contact person is on the web site if you wan

Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-20 Thread Jonathan Schmidt
Just pick any wireless router with a 4-port switch and just don't use the "WAN" RJ-45 socket. Then, go in and disable the DHCP...simple thru any of the GUIs on LinkSys/D-link/NetGear, etc. . . . J o n a t h a n -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@

Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-20 Thread Gino Villarini
Rb750 for $40 with PS Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 6:01 PM To:

Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-20 Thread Josh Luthman
If that new router had wireless it would be a 40 dollar piece of awesomeness. On 9/20/09, Mike Hammett wrote: > Too expensive for a home router. I do use them most everywhere else, > though. > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > >

Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-20 Thread Mike Hammett
because it's not all in one. I've had customers complain when I used separate APs and switches, because there's also the PoE injector. Lots of crap. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Andrew Nie

Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-20 Thread Andrew Niemantsverdriet
Why not just by a switch? Switches have no NAT and are cheap. Slap up a cheap AP an you have your solution however it is not all in one. On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > Something like 80% of the time I've been to a network had Linksys, it's been > broken. > > > - > Mi

Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-20 Thread Mike Hammett
Something like 80% of the time I've been to a network had Linksys, it's been broken. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Robert West" Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:08 PM To: "'WISPA General Li

Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-20 Thread Robert West
Not with multiple lan and at 50 bucks. Why not Linksys? You can always put third party firmware on it if you want. I use DD-WRT on them when I have use one. I've even taken a few of them out of the factory case and put them in other boxes with the CPE. At 55 bucks, they are certainly cheap and

Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-20 Thread Mike Hammett
Too expensive for a home router. I do use them most everywhere else, though. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Gino Villarini" Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 4:57 PM To: "WISPA General List"

Re: [WISPA] BIP-BTOP Grant application executive summaries now onbroadbandusa.gov

2009-09-20 Thread Mike Hammett
I wonder why they're not all up there. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Tim Sylvester" Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 2:50 PM To: "'WISPA General List'" Subject: [WISPA] BIP-BTOP Grant applica

Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-20 Thread Gino Villarini
Mikrotik? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:36 PM To: WISPA Genera

Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-20 Thread Josh Luthman
Does the Engenius one have the capability to disable NAT? On 9/20/09, Mike Hammett wrote: > I'm looking for suggestions on an 802.11 router with multiple LAN ports > where I can disable the NAT capability... making it a bridge. I used to > use the TrendNet TEW-452BRP, but it's EOL and the TEW-6

[WISPA] Router suggestions

2009-09-20 Thread Mike Hammett
I'm looking for suggestions on an 802.11 router with multiple LAN ports where I can disable the NAT capability... making it a bridge. I used to use the TrendNet TEW-452BRP, but it's EOL and the TEW-633GR is too expensive ($100). I'm looking for something in the $30 - $45 area. No Linksys, I

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

2009-09-20 Thread Robert West
Ah... I "thought" it also regulated bandwidth shaping. My error if this is not part of it. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jack Unger Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 5:38 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

2009-09-20 Thread Robert West
Yup. We pay almost 800 bucks for 20/20 meg. To not do any shaping we would have to charge way more than anyone will pay. Take the 800 bucks split by 20 then add overhead costs and it's too much to bear. Bandwidth that will handle 500+ customers with shaping would then, if totally net neutral, o

[WISPA] BIP-BTOP Grant application executive summaries now on broadbandusa.gov

2009-09-20 Thread Tim Sylvester
The three page executive summaries for the BIP/BTOP applications are now on broadbandusa.gov. They have also added the state for the proposed project area and contact e-mail address. Applicants have removed confidential information from the executive summary and not all applicants submitted an exec

Re: [WISPA] Searchable Map of Stimulus projects

2009-09-20 Thread Mike Hammett
They took the site down. Must have thought it wasn't go live ready. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Kevin Owen" Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 12:18 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re:

Re: [WISPA] Searchable Map of Stimulus projects

2009-09-20 Thread Kevin Owen
Can anyone else get to the searchable maps? The included link worked for me last Tuesday but not since. Kevin Owen First Step Internet, LLC -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists Sent: Monday, September

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

2009-09-20 Thread Tom DeReggi
I'd like to point out one thing I think is backwards... Policy makers have said and inferred they are targeting regulation on "wired" providers, and not sure they'll include "wireless" because they realize there are many challenges in Wireless networks, such as "roaming agreements" and "pay

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

2009-09-20 Thread Tom DeReggi
> If ISPs practice active bandwidth management then they should not need to > practice content management. Agreed. "should" not need. > ISPs should not be able to tell me (or you) what we can or can't send or who > we can or can not send it to or receive it from. Disagree. Things dont alwa

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

2009-09-20 Thread Tom DeReggi
Well I'd look at it like... If you own a restaurant, although you have a for pay menu, what you are really selling is a seat at the table to access it. The "table" is like "Broadband Access". Should a restaurant owner be aloud to kick out squatters who just order a $1 drink, and sit at the tab

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

2009-09-20 Thread Eric Rogers
I would like to applaud everyone and add my $.02. This has been extremely professional, though everyone has their own opinions. Thanks. I have been not blocking, but limiting P2P so that it doesn't take up all resources as someone put. There are still some people that find ways around it. I do