Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!

If you have any public safety people using your system, even just for their offices, mention that public safety is being interfered with. Watch them move into HIGH gear then. We have to call them every once and a while for public safety issues, and they are tremendous to deal with. Don't take y

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Sector Tilt angle

Electrical down tilt helps for that kind of installation. On 3/30/10, Scottie Arnett wrote: > As a rule of thumb, as the dB gets higher(or smaller in negative speak) in > an antenna, the beam width of the opposing polarity of the antenna gets > smaller, and thus harder to work with. > > As an exa

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Sector Tilt angle

As a rule of thumb, as the dB gets higher(or smaller in negative speak) in an antenna, the beam width of the opposing polarity of the antenna gets smaller, and thus harder to work with. As an example, I have used 15dB Omni's in 2.4Ghz(I'll leave the brand unannounced). I first put them about 60

Re: [WISPA] Circuit Testing

5001/tcp Compass.imaginenetworksllc.com I think the queue will let you burst to 20 but may be 10. On 3/30/10, Jeremy Parr wrote: > It's my turn. Who has a 20mbit+ circuit they can ipperf over? Reach out and > touch me, 216.137.15.43 port 5001 tcp or udp. > > > ---

[WISPA] Circuit Testing

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Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions

Or install VMware tools. On 3/30/10, Charles Regan wrote: > or > > On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:33 PM, Charles Regan > wrote: > >> or use a simple ntp server to correct it. >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:31 PM, Charles Regan >> wrote: >> >>> or use an updated kernel... this is only needed for

Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!

I agree with WHO. But you are talking MONTHS and not even sure if anything has been done. How many people out here can wait MONTHS for a cure to their issue? And its unknown if there even was or will be any enforcement action. If I make a complaint to enforcement regarding a licensed interfer

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions

or On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:33 PM, Charles Regan wrote: > or use a simple ntp server to correct it. > > > On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:31 PM, Charles Regan > wrote: > >> or use an updated kernel... this is only needed for centos 5.2. >> 5.3 is fine >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:28 PM, Char

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions

or use a simple ntp server to correct it. On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:31 PM, Charles Regan wrote: > or use an updated kernel... this is only needed for centos 5.2. > 5.3 is fine > > > On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:28 PM, Charles Regan > wrote: > >> you need the VM kernel if you want the time to be c

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions

or use an updated kernel... this is only needed for centos 5.2. 5.3 is fine On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:28 PM, Charles Regan wrote: > you need the VM kernel if you want the time to be correct. > I am running fine on a ESX server with around 650 devices. > if you are using centos check this out > h

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions

you need the VM kernel if you want the time to be correct. I am running fine on a ESX server with around 650 devices. if you are using centos check this out http://pbxinaflash.com/vm/ On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:14 PM, Glenn Kelley wrote: > yup > > depending on the vm - (vm ware for example doe

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions

yup depending on the vm - (vm ware for example does have some clocking issues) times could be a nightmare ... I suggest stand alone for sure On Mar 30, 2010, at 7:55 PM, Richey wrote: > I had CactiEZ running in a VM Ware on a Dell 1850 with 4GB of ram. > It did > fine with about 200 devi

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions

Thats why we had the first hop router record the data from each customer, and then have monitoring box with MRTG pull all the data from the first hop router in one shot. It was much less load on the network. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Origina

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions

Why not do the collection from the BM Queues further out? The way we did it on our system, is that each customer packet got tagged (with a unique Cust ID) when it arrived at the first hop router, and then sent to Bandwidth management or where ever the CustID rules was configured to send it. Bu

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions

I'd also ask, is your goal to track end user's usage of their connection and of the network, or end user's usage of the Internet Transit? Tracking usage at the backend (NOC) may not capture all the data that transfers directly between one on-net end user and another on-net end user. It can also

Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!

I know of at least 10+ WISPS that buy gear from us that do not heed the warning about exceeding the EIRP limit. Only reason I know is when I do the consulting for them and see the TX power has not been limited, or is actually overpowered. They are in little po-dunk areas that have <1-5,000 reside

Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!

Marlon, I think people should have to take a test in order to be a WISP. Otherwise you got all these pop-up idiots that know nothing about RF and setting up 20db sectors with XR2's set at default power levels. This is well over 50watts EIRP. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 4482

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions

> -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Matt Jenkins > Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 4:34 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions > > Have you looked into PMACCT with NetFlow? The

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions

I had CactiEZ running in a VM Ware on a Dell 1850 with 4GB of ram. It did fine with about 200 devices but the time would drift really bad.In 10 minutes the time would be off by hours.I am now running it on the same 1850 but not in a VM with a few hundred graphs now. Richey -Original

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions

Have you looked into PMACCT with NetFlow? Tim Sylvester wrote: > Hi Matt, > > I have built usage-based accounting systems for ISPs using NetFlow and/or > RADIUS Accounting and MySQL running on Linux. Contact me directly to > discuss. > > Tim > > -- > Tim Sylvester > Network RADIUS > (408) 826-8

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions

Hi Matt, I have built usage-based accounting systems for ISPs using NetFlow and/or RADIUS Accounting and MySQL running on Linux. Contact me directly to discuss. Tim -- Tim Sylvester Network RADIUS (408) 826-8350 (o) (408) 334-1700 (m) tim.sylves...@networkradius.com > -Original Message-

Re: [WISPA] Building Heights?

WOW!!! what pain this will save..What other things will they come up with before taking over the planet? --- On Tue, 3/30/10, Josh Luthman wrote: From: Josh Luthman Subject: Re: [WISPA] Building Heights? To: "WISPA General List" Date: Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 2:58 PM Hopefully this does no

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions

Well, This would be a little more time consuming. And would need a hell of a cacti box. But you could SNMP hit each customers CPE device if it supports it. That would be quite the load for the cacti box though. I second cacti easy though. We have a box running CactiEZ with 68 sensors on it, and

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions

prtg will meet your needs Sent from my iPhone On Mar 30, 2010, at 12:24 PM, "Matt Larsen - Lists" wrote: > Hello list, > > I am looking for a solution that will keep track of the monthly > bandwidth consumption for all of my broadband customers and am > having a > hard time coming up with a

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions

We're also big fans and long time users of Cacti, so I'd happily recommend it as well. On 3/30/2010 16:46, Justin Wilson wrote: > Cacti would be what I would start with. I have set it up where business > customers have their own individual logins and can see just the graphs you > want them

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions

Cacti would be what I would start with. I have set it up where business customers have their own individual logins and can see just the graphs you want them to. It has built in graphs for 95th percentile. There is a plugin called nectar which allows you to have graphs e-mailed. You can also

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions

What is broken in netflow? I've been using it for over 5 years now to collect traffic data and it seems spot on. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless On 3/30/10 3:30 PM, Matt Larsen - Lists wrote: > Actually, I could potentially do it from the Mikrotik router at the > core, behind the Star

Re: [WISPA] Email Hosting

Thanks you are right I could not find it Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Curtis Maurand Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 3:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] E

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions

Actually, I could potentially do it from the Mikrotik router at the core, behind the StarOS NAT server. Only problem is that the NetFlow collector on Mikrotik is broken. That is why we are leaning toward something between the core and NAT servers to collect the data. Queues will not work, a

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions

Then you will need to find a solution with StarOS. Can you maybe set a single queue for each customer and then obtain that via SNMP? I'm totally unfamiliar with StarOS. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions

Hi Josh, I'm wanting to track how much each individual customers is using so I can bill the ones that go over our bandwidth cap. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com On 3/30/2010 1:57 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > I think we need to find out if "I am looking for a solution that will > keep track of the month

Re: [WISPA] Building Heights?

Wispmon is at http://www.wispmon.com. Will hit you offlist with more. Cameron On 3/30/2010 11:33 AM, Forbes Mercy wrote: > Could I get the actual URL on > > LinkPlanner > and > WispMon > > > On 3/30/2010 8:07 AM, jp wrote: > >> Use the profiler on here: >> http://www.heywhatsthat.com/ >> >> Th

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions

I think we need to find out if "I am looking for a solution that will keep track of the monthly bandwidth consumption for all of my broadband customers..." means how much you're entire upstream is using or how much each customer is using individually so you can find the top few heavy users. Josh L

Re: [WISPA] Email Hosting

Don't use the tucows link, you won't find what you're looking for. Try www.opensrs.com Cheers, Curtis On 3/29/2010 12:37 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: > www.tucows.com > > Elliot is one of us! > marlon > > - Original Message - > From: "Steve Barnes" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Th

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions

3) Mikrotik core routers at each backbone location I took it that all traffic goes through these as well. Matt, does all your traffic run through an MT somewhere on its way out? Josh Luthman wrote: > Scott, > >4) StarOS routers performing NAT at each backbone location > > It's StarOS NATi

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions

StarOS is NATting at each backbone location - that is why I wanted to put this collection in place between the core router and the NAT router so it can see the customer data in its native (pre-NATted) state. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com On 3/30/2010 1:34 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Scott, > > 4

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions

IPTrack is Brandon Checkett's program, and we did experiment with it, but it doesn't do exactly what we are looking for, and we were concerned about its apparent lack of any new development. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com On 3/30/2010 1:32 PM, Scott Reed wrote: > If you can run IPTrack (see some of

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions

That is a great link! I don't think it will solve my immediate problem, but I may look at using this to replace our current Cacti server at some point. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com On 3/30/2010 1:30 PM, Glenn Kelley wrote: > Matt - > > I almost forgot the link > > http://cactiez.cactiusers.org

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions

Scott, 4) StarOS routers performing NAT at each backbone location It's StarOS NATing the customers off of the backbone. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue t

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions

If you can run IPTrack (see some of Marlon's previous posts) you have have the MTs report by IP address back to the server. I have done this on my network, though it is not running right now. I would be glad to help if you opt to go this way. Matt Larsen - Lists wrote: > Hello list, > > I am l

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions

Matt - I almost forgot the link http://cactiez.cactiusers.org/ On Mar 30, 2010, at 3:24 PM, Matt Larsen - Lists wrote: > > I am looking for a solution that will keep track of the monthly > bandwidth consumption for all of my broadband customers and am having a > hard time coming up with

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions

Matt I think Cacti Made Easy is a great solution for you :-) In short - CACTI will listen on SNMP - as well as at the switch level and give you this control. As of Freeside - Not sure - btu would assume there should be an import. Call me off list - and I can help ya - one fat cowboy to anothe

[WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions

Hello list, I am looking for a solution that will keep track of the monthly bandwidth consumption for all of my broadband customers and am having a hard time coming up with a good solution. Our goal is to collect the traffic flows every 15 minutes and generate three things: 1) Internal

[WISPA] Today's Funny - Jay Leno Headlines

I hate to say it but the last one was found in my hometown newspaper. http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=380813068863 &ref=nf I'm still laughing! Rick

Re: [WISPA] Building Heights?

Hopefully this does not disrupt the space-time continuum. http://tinyurl.com/5wf7s4 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On T

Re: [WISPA] Building Heights?

Hey, I like that. How did you do that? Mike -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 12:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Building Heights? LinkPlanner http://tinyurl.

Re: [WISPA] Building Heights?

You know I went up until Sunday without having a customer confused between the Start button on Windows and the power button on the machine. I felt like someone hit me with a 2 by 4. Either way, those links will get you to the products in question. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-55

Re: [WISPA] Building Heights?

Oh a smart-ass, huh? lol so where is my start button again? On 3/30/2010 10:36 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > LinkPlanner > http://tinyurl.com/ygt43e4 > > Wispmon > http://tinyurl.com/yl427nd > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373

Re: [WISPA] Building Heights?

Shall I send it today? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Forbes Mercy Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 1:33 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Building Heights? Could I get the actual URL on LinkPlanner and Wisp

Re: [WISPA] Building Heights?

LinkPlanner http://tinyurl.com/ygt43e4 Wispmon http://tinyurl.com/yl427nd Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Tue, Mar 30

Re: [WISPA] Building Heights?

Could I get the actual URL on LinkPlanner and WispMon On 3/30/2010 8:07 AM, jp wrote: > Use the profiler on here: > http://www.heywhatsthat.com/ > > The website author made it usable for wireless for us. He'll do custom > sites that show only your tower locations too if you want. > > On Mon, Mar

Re: [WISPA] Building Heights?

Hey, that's a great tool! Thanks for pointing it out. Chuck On Mar 30, 2010, at 11:07 AM, jp wrote: > Use the profiler on here: > http://www.heywhatsthat.com/ > > The website author made it usable for wireless for us. He'll do custom > sites that show only your tower locations too if you want.

Re: [WISPA] Building Heights?

Use the profiler on here: http://www.heywhatsthat.com/ The website author made it usable for wireless for us. He'll do custom sites that show only your tower locations too if you want. On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 04:42:27PM -0700, Forbes Mercy wrote: > Wouldn't it be cool if when using Google Earth

Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!

I get what you are saying Bob. But sometimes it's more about knowing WHO to call. I just had a guy call with a similar problem. You all know him and I'd drop his name but I don't want to tip off the dirt bag operator. When he first called the FCC he ended up at the wrong place. They told

Re: [WISPA] Building Heights?

12 feet per floor is how we do it in the fire service. 10 feet per floor for residential. But RF is diffrent than fire behaivior... Well I guess both can burn you. ;) ryan On Mar 30, 2010, at 10:38 AM, "Marlon K. Schafer" wrote: > Clyde M. taught me a cool trick. > > Use a ruler, move b

Re: [WISPA] Building Heights?

Clyde M. taught me a cool trick. Use a ruler, move back from a door till the door fills a 1/4" (or similar) mark. Then count the marks to the top of the building. Multiply that by 7' for the average door height and you'll know how tall the building is. Very slick trick. marlon - Origina

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Sector Tilt angle

I prefer to reference to magnetic north. Makes it easier for my guys in the field to align things and I don't have to go into a training session on geo-magnetics. Cameron On 3/29/2010 2:42 PM, Ryan Spott wrote: > And don't do what I did for the first AP install I ever did. > > Mount the antenna

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Sector Tilt angle

"really good TV reception" It tells them something so they get less interested and leave you alone. ryan On Mar 29, 2010, at 8:25 PM, "Mike Mattox" wrote: > SSSH, aliens > > >> Signal is great >> where we can see it, just needed a good fix for not having to do >> the 2 man >> show all