Re: [WISPA] I'm pulling Mikrotik

For me, the StarOS/WRAP combo performed very well since 2004. The only issues I had were coax related. Otherwise, I agree, I dont like equipment you have to put together. I save my tinkering around for personal stuff but much rather have a fully designed radio for commercial purposes. On Thu, Sep

Re: [WISPA] I'm pulling Mikrotik

I've had or our WISP customers have had dead radios from Alvarion to Zecomax over the years and really, really expensive ones like Bridgewave, Ceragon, Dragonwave. So far I haven't found a bullet proof electronic device yet. All of them have there problems. I just can't afford to spend $20

Re: [WISPA] I'm pulling Mikrotik

Make me a good deal on the Mikrotiks. On 9/16/2010 11:04 AM, Forbes Mercy wrote: >I have about 30 seconds to leave this, I'm going to pull every > Mikrotik I have, that's about 30 radios and replace them with UBNIT. > I'm sick and tired of spending all last night because two radios just >

Re: [WISPA] I'm pulling Mikrotik

I don't use the SS's, but we've probably blown 10 ethernet ports this year on Canopy...out of almost roughly 700. Regards, Chuck On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 7:27 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > While I have more Mikrotik then Canopy, I have had several ethernet > ports blown on Mikrotik and I have zero f

Re: [WISPA] Reverse Engineer BAM Authentication

I have, for basic bandwidth and authentication control. Works if you can work with a perl library: http://code.google.com/p/jungleauth/ On Thursday, September 16, 2010, Marco Coelho wrote: > Has anyone reversed engineered the BAM SM authentication? > We would like to add this as a feature to our

Re: [WISPA] I'm pulling Mikrotik

While I have more Mikrotik then Canopy, I have had several ethernet ports blown on Mikrotik and I have zero failure with Canopy, though less then a hundred deployed. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 7:04 PM, T

Re: [WISPA] I'm pulling Mikrotik

I hear ya, my brother. No flaming here. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Forbes Mercy Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 2:05 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] I'm pulling Mikrotik I have about 30 seconds to

Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo

Just installed one this week. Nice interface, kind of like an EL-500, but with different format. A few more controlable parameters than the TR6 series. My question is is this a new direction, a stop gap, or something from Aperto? Phil On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 11:20 AM, RickG wrote: > Anyone

Re: [WISPA] I'm pulling Mikrotik

Same here. I think we had up to 1500 MT radios in the field. No higher failure rate or issues than any other product (Trango, Canopy, etc.). Travis Microserv On 9/16/2010 12:39 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: At one point we had about 1300 MikroTiks in the field. I never had this problem. I switched

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Re: [WISPA] I'm pulling Mikrotik

Agreed. You're going to find MT products that suit your needs. UBNT is getting my business these days because of 2 things... cost & trust. They've made a huge impact on the WISP business, no denying that. They've done it by creating a product that can be trusted at a good price point. Quality

Re: [WISPA] I'm pulling Mikrotik

There are many vendors offering built CPEs and APs based on MT hardware. They don't have to build-it-yourself just because MT doesn't do the packaging. On 9/16/2010 3:23 PM, Mark Nash wrote: > Also, to be fair, I've never had a problem with Mikrotik because I have > never used Mikrotik radios

Re: [WISPA] Trees under half mile

It will link in 1X mode at 3dB S/N and 2X at 10dB S/N. you need to maintain those levels so you need to add enough gain to deal with trees in the spring which tend to have the highest loss of the year. with that said, 900 MHz is a bad bet IMO. If you plan to roll out 900, you need to look at it

Re: [WISPA] Trees under half mile

About the only product that will work that low. What do you call decent throughput? I think 2x requires 6dbm. On Sep 16, 2010 3:40 PM, "chris cooper" wrote: Ive never deployed Canopy 900. Vendor materials say it will work at a 3 db C/I. Can you keep a solid connection w/ decent throughput a

[WISPA] DoubleRadius event report

Motorola was talking about their 7181 outdoor WIFI product today. I asked how it compared to Ruckus and they had an answer. I believe they said their advantage was no head controller. However, looking at the Ruckus list pricing from last year, the Motorola is much more expensive, even if y

Re: [WISPA] Trees under half mile

Ive never deployed Canopy 900. Vendor materials say it will work at a 3 db C/I. Can you keep a solid connection w/ decent throughput at that ratio? Chris -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Thursday,

Re: [WISPA] I'm pulling Mikrotik

Keep in mind that there are builders out there that are WISPA members, which should be able to build your MT boards correctly. They can FCC Certify MT gear as well and deliver a product that is just like UBNT if you wish. Please contact me off-list if you are interested in this type of service.

Re: [WISPA] I'm pulling Mikrotik

Also, to be fair, I've never had a problem with Mikrotik because I have never used Mikrotik radios (neither CPE or AP). We've had StarOS. So, while my frustration comes from StarOS wireless devices, I lump Mikrotik in with them because of the build-them-yourself nature of them. We actually LOV

Re: [WISPA] Trees under half mile

At my house, I live in a hole with about ¾ mile of solid oak trees between me and the tower. 2.4Ghz in the late spring (meaning good, saturated leaves) I can run 4meg. When it rains, service will be spotty and sometimes drop. I would never install a customer in those conditions. We do have a fe

Re: [WISPA] I'm pulling Mikrotik

YMMV. I've had near flawless performance from my Mikrotik systems. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/16/2010 1:04 PM, Forbes Mercy wrote: >I have about 30 seconds to leave this, I'm going to pull every > Mikrotik I have, that's about 30 radios

Re: [WISPA] Reverse Engineer BAM Authentication

Moto said at today's DoubleRadius event that a future software release will open up the AAA features. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/16/2010 10:55 AM, Marco Coelho wrote: > Has anyone reversed engineered the BAM SM authentication? > We would lik

Re: [WISPA] I'm pulling Mikrotik

Not a fan of that myself as well. I have had good success with the APs - just make sure you have a set of boxes ready to replace. I use a pole with two pipe to pipe clamps and on the pipe use the sector and enclosure. Bit heavier on the installation day but replacements are pretty easy. Josh Lu

Re: [WISPA] I'm pulling Mikrotik

We will, however, continue to use Mikrotik for ethernet routers. Thought that was fair to say. We don't like the build-it-yourself WIRELESS devices... - Original Message - From: "Mark Nash - Lists" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 11:31 AM Subject: Re: [WI

Re: [WISPA] I'm pulling Mikrotik

To clarify I'm sure mine were 2.9.50 or 2.9.51. I never upgraded a 1xx or 5xx to 3.0+. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: > At one point we had about 1300 MikroTiks in the field.  I

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik

I use PPTP all the time without any issues. I often use my laptop or another Mikrotik. I know other people use IPSec with and to replace Cisco and haven't heard anything after they get it configured. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik

I use PPtP and L2TP tunnels in quite a few places without issue using MikroTik. Regards, Chuck On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Jeremie Chism wrote: > I was wondering how mikrotik vpn's performed compared to other routers. I > have had nothing but problems out of some of the other cheaper rou

[WISPA] Mikrotik

I was wondering how mikrotik vpn's performed compared to other routers. I have had nothing but problems out of some of the other cheaper routers. Anybody with experience with this? Sent from my iPhone4 WISPA Wants

Re: [WISPA] I'm pulling Mikrotik

At one point we had about 1300 MikroTiks in the field. I never had this problem. I switched off of MikroTik to go to Canopy, but use MikroTik for all my Routing, some backhauls, and at the base of every tower. I've had 112's, 532's, 133's, 600's, 800's 411's, etc. I have seen it drop the config

Re: [WISPA] I'm pulling Mikrotik

There's something to be said for "losing faith" in a technology. For me, it's the "build-it-yourself" radios. All of them. Mikrotik & StarOS. For me, I see such a high service call rate for repairs, the need to put in redundant backhauls sooner than later because we can almost guarantee som

Re: [WISPA] I'm pulling Mikrotik

Can't say I've seen that yet, but we have newer Mikrotiks...Of course the bigger question is "what happens if you do make that change and your problem doesn't go away?". On 09/16/2010 02:16 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > If it doesn't work for you it doesn't work, no need to try and fix it > if Ubiqu

Re: [WISPA] I'm pulling Mikrotik

If it doesn't work for you it doesn't work, no need to try and fix it if Ubiquiti works. Though I am curious to know how it lost its configuration as I have only seen that on two occurrences, on an rb153 and rb532 (which are pretty old). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100

[WISPA] I'm pulling Mikrotik

I have about 30 seconds to leave this, I'm going to pull every Mikrotik I have, that's about 30 radios and replace them with UBNIT. I'm sick and tired of spending all last night because two radios just dropped their IP setting to 0.0.0.0 and the other MAC to 0.0.0.0, today another system sto

[WISPA] Tranzeo

Anyone tried the new Tranzeo EX-2's? http://www.tranzeo.com/products/radios/EX2 On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 7:30 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Speed test mini just after your upstream pipe. > > On Sep 12, 2010 7:29 PM, "RickG" wrote: > > OK for all your speed hungry customers that want to run speed test

Re: [WISPA] Trees under half mile

I've been fighting trees since I got into the wireless business back in '97. IMHO, only lower frequencies will reliably serve a customer. I currently have a few customers with some trees and they complain it cuts out. It boils down to what quality of service you want to provide. On Thu, Sep 16, 20

Re: [WISPA] Reverse Engineer BAM Authentication

There's a hack somewhere out there that I think converts BAM requests to RADIUS requests, so whoever made that must have figured it out. However, RADIUS authentication support will be in 11.x, which I believe is due out Q4 2010 or Q1 2011... Dave On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Marco Coelho

Re: [WISPA] Reverse Engineer BAM Authentication

Powercode has (internally, releasing some day) a BAM thing going...not sure of the details, though. I believe Jon has done this, too. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Marco Coelho wrote: > Has anyo

[WISPA] Reverse Engineer BAM Authentication

Has anyone reversed engineered the BAM SM authentication? We would like to add this as a feature to our in-house software. Marco -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-08

Re: [WISPA] Trees under half mile

So what kinds of distances are people currently going through trees, and what kinds of signals, CCQ, throughput, etc. are you seeing? I guess I'm looking for success stories. I need to sell this to the partners. I know it can be done, and I'm fairly confident it will work in this situation, bu

Re: [WISPA] Good source for monitoring status of major nationwide networks

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Re: [WISPA] Tower Climb video

Only problem is if he wins the lottery, his luck may run out. Next time he "free climbs" would be his last! Cameron On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 8:02 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQv-o5Kgbko > > Regards, > > Chuck > > > > On Thu,

Re: [WISPA] Tower Climb video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQv-o5Kgbko Regards, Chuck On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > If you Google for Stairway to heaven Tower you should be able to find it. > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > h

Re: [WISPA] Tower Climb video

If you Google for Stairway to heaven Tower you should be able to find it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/15/2010 6:54 PM, Bob Moldashel wrote: > Better yet... Notice how its been removed from Youtube due to > "copyright" issues. Yeah right...