Re: [WISPA] Choosing core router for small - medium WISP

2011-07-07 Thread Tom DeReggi
Mikrotik OSPF can break older Quagga releases. (Imagestream can use Quagga) For example,. I recently installed some RB1100s, and my Zebra .94 machines instantly went into route floods and restarts, and filling log files in a day. I upgraded to Quagga .12 and all good now. (note: Quagga current

Re: [WISPA] Choosing core router for small - medium WISP

2011-07-07 Thread Tom DeReggi
Jim, Thats the way to make a sale. I dont see Cisco or Juniper offering that kind of quality support. Roman, If this is for you, and you are only needing less than 10- 300mbps of bandwidth for small to medium need, do yourself a favor, and save your money, and save your time, and go buy a

Re: [WISPA] Choosing core router for small - medium WISP

2011-07-07 Thread Tom DeReggi
To clarify. 1) Linux routers are plenty good for Enterprise. My point was that its a harder sell to sell them a product they dont know, when there could be many third party trusted advisors chiming in with an opinion that contradicts yours. But no doubt Linux routers can be very power and

Re: [WISPA] Choosing core router for small - medium WISP

2011-07-07 Thread Greg Ihnen
+1 on point number 1. I've heard the phrase many times nobody every got fired for buying Cisco. Greg On Jul 7, 2011, at 3:02 AM, Tom DeReggi wrote: To clarify. 1) Linux routers are plenty good for Enterprise. My point was that its a harder sell to sell them a product they dont

[WISPA] Ellensburg, WA dish network

2011-07-07 Thread Mike Goicoechea
Is there anyone with video meter balancing experience around the Ellensburg, WA area? Mike Goicoechea Wispa Vendor Member Cielo Systems International 806-977-9001 ext 101 806-763-1945 fax Skype Mike.Goik m...@cielosystems.net

[WISPA] Fwd: Choosing core router for small - medium WISP

2011-07-07 Thread Roman
Great thanks for all who participated in discussion! This community is very good place to ask question and get opinions from experienced wireless professionals. Opinions vary, though. And as the way to thank community and to provoke additional discussion I would like to summarize all the inputs

[WISPA] Fwd: Choosing core router for small - medium WISP

2011-07-07 Thread Roman
Is there any way to send tables here? Plain text removed all the borders of my table making it unreadable... -- Forwarded message -- From: Roman consulttele...@gmail.com Date: Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 12:31 AM Subject: Fwd: [WISPA] Choosing core router for small - medium WISP To:

Re: [WISPA] Fwd: Choosing core router for small - medium WISP

2011-07-07 Thread Josh Luthman
Both disadvantages seem like false information to me. Especially OSPF issues on ImageStream - every product has its bugs and there are probably more versions then other products. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jul 7, 2011

Re: [WISPA] Fwd: Choosing core router for small - medium WISP

2011-07-07 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
Many of our well established customers would take issue with being called start-up... :-) Sent from my iPhone On Jul 7, 2011, at 4:34 PM, Roman consulttele...@gmail.com wrote: Is there any way to send tables here? Plain text removed all the borders of my table making it unreadable...

[WISPA] Anyone ever use this cable? CA5EF-FTP-RF1000

2011-07-07 Thread Matt Jenkins
We have a new GM and has switched us to using a new cable for towers. Its made by pcAirLink Wireless part number: CA5EF-FTP-RF1000. I am worried about the gel inside getting hot and running down the cable. Anyone ever used this? If not what do you use? Does the gel/waterblock leak when hot?

Re: [WISPA] Fwd: Choosing core router for small - medium WISP

2011-07-07 Thread Jim Patient
Maybe I should clarify this. The Powerouter 732 does more than 2Gbps. It has 7GigE ports on their own independent 2.01GB buss (not a shared buss). We bonded 6 of them and got 5.9Gbps TCP across those 6. The Powerouter 2200 series comes standard with 10 1GigE ports. We have a dual port

Re: [WISPA] Choosing core router for small - medium WISP

2011-07-07 Thread Butch Evans
On Wed, 2011-07-06 at 15:02 -0500, Mike Hammett wrote: Yeah, MT and ImageStream really don't have anything to offer when really pushing 10 gig interfaces. We'll be needing them before too much longer! I have 10G interfaces available with RouterOS. --

Re: [WISPA] Choosing core router for small - medium WISP

2011-07-07 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
ImageStream offers them too, but we can't saturate them yet. Jeff ImageStream Sent from my iPhone On Jul 7, 2011, at 8:37 PM, Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com wrote: On Wed, 2011-07-06 at 15:02 -0500, Mike Hammett wrote: Yeah, MT and ImageStream really don't have anything to offer when

Re: [WISPA] Choosing core router for small - medium WISP

2011-07-07 Thread Fred Goldstein
At 7/7/2011 08:47 PM, JeffB wrote: ImageStream offers them too, but we can't saturate them yet. I'm curious...what's the biggest CPU you've tried them on? Vyatta claims to be able to saturate 10G interfaces using multicore Xeons. Even high end Xeon server iron seems cheap compared to the

Re: [WISPA] Choosing core router for small - medium WISP

2011-07-07 Thread Mike Hammett
I guess I knew that 10GigE interfaces were available, but was doubting that you and the MT guys could saturate them. Internally, I wouldn't be too concerned, but if I had to lease a wave, I'd want to make sure I could fill it up. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [WISPA] Choosing core router for small - medium WISP

2011-07-07 Thread Mike Hammett
I'd imagine this answer goes to all of the higher end x86 Mikrotik boxes that have come out in the past couple years, but Can it fill the 10 gig interface? IE: If I have those 10x GigE interfaces going to different networks, can I fill that 10GigE? I see that your MikroCore 7100 can have

Re: [WISPA] Choosing core router for small - medium WISP

2011-07-07 Thread Mike Hammett
I think a sweet spot for a router would have 60 - 80 gigabits of throughput. 3x 10Giges and 0 - 10x GigEs. 1x 10GigE goes East, another goes West, and the last goes up to a cheap provider. The GigEs go to peering fabrics, private peers, alternate upstreams, etc. Oh, and being able to

Re: [WISPA] Choosing core router for small - medium WISP

2011-07-07 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
It's not a processor limitation Fred, it's a Linux issue. It can be fixed, but will require a major re-write. I question that Vyatta has really overcome it. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 7, 2011, at 9:06 PM, Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.com wrote: At 7/7/2011 08:47 PM, JeffB wrote: