Re: [WISPA] Latest trend for heavy wooded areas

2013-08-23 Thread Greg Osborn
To make the ubnt 900 work, Mike, you would need one of those sat dishes from the early 80’s. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 2:32 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Latest trend for heav

Re: [WISPA] Latest trend for heavy wooded areas

2013-08-23 Thread Erik Anderson
On 8/22/2013 5:23 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > I do not yet know of any source for dual polarity 900 MHz 90* sectors > that are 18 dB nor any 900 MHz dual polarity CPE antenna that are 25 > dB of gain. Agreed, but again, what would be the point? EIRP of 36 - 25 dBi antenna - 1dB line loss = 11 dBm

Re: [WISPA] Latest trend for heavy wooded areas

2013-08-23 Thread Mike Hammett
All of the other bands have EIRP limits. You have to worry on The AP side in 2.4 and 5.8. You have to worry on both the AP and CPE in 5.3 and 5.4. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Erik Anderson" To: wireless@w

Re: [WISPA] Latest trend for heavy wooded areas

2013-08-23 Thread Erik Anderson
Yes, but wind load is dramatically different. Bottom line is there is simply not enough demand for high windload antennas to justify the compliance risk. UBNT was "safe" until they started making some decent money. Then, after massive legal bills, they were forced to implement DFS because thei

Re: [WISPA] Latest trend for heavy wooded areas

2013-08-23 Thread Mike Hammett
No, they were building DFS the entire time, people just took it into their hands to use the band illegally before DFS was ready. Even though DFS has been available for some time, people are still getting busted because they aren't paying attention. I'm a believer in bigger antennas and smaller

Re: [WISPA] Latest trend for heavy wooded areas

2013-08-23 Thread Mike Hammett
You're actually spot on. Now only if they were dual polarity. ;-) Well, not saying that's what you need to make UBNT 900 work, but a 25 dB 900 MHz grid dish is 8' in diameter. http://www.zdacomm.com/images/PDF/ZDAGP900C.pdf - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www

[WISPA] LTE Chipset for Unlicensed bands?

2013-08-23 Thread Ryan Spott
Would LTE, as a protocol be useful in the unlicensed bands? Does anyone make a chipset for this? ryan ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Re: [WISPA] LTE Chipset for Unlicensed bands?

2013-08-23 Thread Mike Hammett
I've heard that LTE can't handle interference well. *shrugs* - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Ryan Spott" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 10:26:04 AM Subject: [WISPA] LTE Chipset for U

Re: [WISPA] LTE Chipset for Unlicensed bands?

2013-08-23 Thread Gino Villarini
It was built to deal with self-interference, not with OPP… Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 11

Re: [WISPA] Latest trend for heavy wooded areas

2013-08-23 Thread TJ Trout
900ghz? I bet it would be great nlos, you could just burn through the trees :) On Aug 22, 2013 1:35 PM, "Fred Goldstein" wrote: > On 8/22/2013 4:09 PM, Steve Barnes wrote: > > But Mike that is the Rub. All things are never the same. 900 is dirty > and Susceptible to so much noise and reflectio

Re: [WISPA] LTE Chipset for Unlicensed bands?

2013-08-23 Thread Sean Heskett
plus it's a mobile protocol which as we've seen with WiMax is not always the best for fixed wireless. latency is usually higher with mobile protocols. 2cents On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Ryan Spott wrote: > Would LTE, as a protocol be useful in the unlicensed bands? > > Does anyone make a

Re: [WISPA] Be careful out/up there

2013-08-23 Thread Clay Stewart
Yeah, NTelos lost a contractor near me last week... experienced climber fell 100'. It takes 2.5 seconds to fall 100' ... not enough time to say to yourself, "Wh, but I know I had clipped in, I wonder wha." On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 6:16 PM, Scott Parsons wrote: > Guys, Be extra careful up the

Re: [WISPA] Be careful out/up there

2013-08-23 Thread paulgkeny
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[WISPA] Amazon Wireless coming soon??

2013-08-23 Thread Lists
http://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-fi-tn-amazon-globalstar-20130823,0,4792322.story Looks like they are trying to get a Wifi channel opened up that we could be using. They threw the term "Managed" in there as well. Curt Lists ___ Wireles