He said "real" good ;)
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From: Matt Hoppes
To: WISPA General List
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 7:18 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Baicells - who's deployed it?
As opposed to bad? :P.
On Jun 18, 2016, at 08:03, Josh Luthman wrote:
"Good"?
Josh
I've said too much. I haven't said enough.
Ask Patrick for more details on pricing.
> On Jun 19, 2016, at 11:59, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:
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> He said "real" good ;)
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Matt Hoppes
> To: WISPA General List
> Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 7:18 AM
> Sub
Baicells referred me to a distributor for pricing. I asked last week.
Josh Luthman
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On Jun 19, 2016 12:18 PM, "Matt Hoppes"
wrote:
> I've said too much. I haven't said enough.
>
> Ask Patrick for more details on pr
Baicells is going to have cheaper hardware but there will be some trade
offs to other vendors.
for example, no 4x4, do dual carrier, etc.
Also you'll pay per user per month to use their core unless you already
have one. so look at the long term when pricing.
On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Josh
Since LTE is a standard I wonder if you could hook a Telrad eNB to the
baicells EPC??
*gear spinning*
> On Jun 19, 2016, at 12:20, Adair Winter wrote:
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> Baicells is going to have cheaper hardware but there will be some trade offs
> to other vendors.
> for example, no 4x4, do dual carri
probably possible but since it makes some sort of ipsec connection to their
hosted core, it would be more difficult.
The other way around works great though.
On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 11:53 AM, Matt Hoppes <
mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
> Since LTE is a standard I wonder if you c
So if their hosted core takes a sh*t, all your users are down?
> On Jun 19, 2016, at 09:57, Adair Winter wrote:
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> probably possible but since it makes some sort of ipsec connection to their
> hosted core, it would be more difficult.
>
> The other way around works great though.
>
>> On Sun,
Eh. VPN router.
> On Jun 19, 2016, at 12:57, Adair Winter wrote:
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> probably possible but since it makes some sort of ipsec connection to their
> hosted core, it would be more difficult.
>
> The other way around works great though.
>
>> On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 11:53 AM, Matt Hoppes
>> wro
No, just authentication. Or at least that's the way it should be.
They are hosting in azure and are supposed to have some good redundancy .
On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 12:01 PM, wrote:
> So if their hosted core takes a sh*t, all your users are down?
>
> On Jun 19, 2016, at 09:57, Adair Winter
> wro
Shouldn't be. No. That aside. You can run your own core if you like.
Hosted cores are very common in the cellular world.
> On Jun 19, 2016, at 13:01, mike.l...@gmail.com wrote:
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> So if their hosted core takes a sh*t, all your users are down?
>
>> On Jun 19, 2016, at 09:57, Adair Winter wro
You just gonna call up baicell and get the info?
On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 12:02 PM, Matt Hoppes <
mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
> Eh. VPN router.
>
> On Jun 19, 2016, at 12:57, Adair Winter
> wrote:
>
> probably possible but since it makes some sort of ipsec connection to
> their host
So far I am have able to mix and match the Biacell, and Telrad eNBs and UEs.
Biacell eNB connects to the core with 0 setup. With only one change it will
connect and work with the Telrad core.
UEs from both Telrad and Biacells work with either eNBs.
Things to test:1. VPLS from the Telrad Core to
To the second point, Azure is supposed to be good stuff. But to the first, if
your users can't authenticate...
-- Nathan
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Adair Winter [ada...@amarillowireless.net]
Sent: Sunday, J
They do have more zones in the US than Amazon. I'm not sure how Google or
others stack up.
- Original Message -
From: "Nathan Anderson"
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2016 3:47:45 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Baicells - who's deployed it?
To the second point, Azure is
Yeah, if you're already buying Telrad Compacts then you *probably* have a
Telrad core, so I don't see the appeal of hooking up Telrad eNB to Baicells
cloud core.
But the idea of hooking up a Baicells eNB to a Telrad core is interesting,
considering the eNB price differential...use Compacts in a
You can run your own EPC. It's a take your pick!!!
> On Jun 19, 2016, at 16:47, Nathan Anderson wrote:
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> To the second point, Azure is supposed to be good stuff. But to the first,
> if your users can't authenticate...
>
> -- Nathan
>
> From: wireless
So it sounds like you have made Baicells eNB talk to a Breezeway for
authentication. Very cool.
Re: VPLS, I could be wrong (and I haven't actually tried VPLS/VPWS on Telrad),
but I don't believe the eNB has anything whatsoever to do with making that
work. As far as it is concerned, it is just
I think Adair said he has?
Who says the baicells isn't SDR? I don't know.
> On Jun 19, 2016, at 16:55, Nathan Anderson wrote:
>
> Yeah, if you're already buying Telrad Compacts then you *probably* have a
> Telrad core, so I don't see the appeal of hooking up Telrad eNB to Baicells
> cloud c
Local offloading is a standard LTE feature. You do need an a device to do it,
which in guessing Bai has built into their eNB.
> On Jun 19, 2016, at 17:07, Nathan Anderson wrote:
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> So it sounds like you have made Baicells eNB talk to a Breezeway for
> authentication. Very cool.
>
> Re: VPL
Yes, Baicell eNB to Telrad core works fine in our testing.
On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 4:19 PM, Matt Hoppes <
mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
> I think Adair said he has?
>
> Who says the baicells isn't SDR? I don't know.
>
> > On Jun 19, 2016, at 16:55, Nathan Anderson wrote:
> >
> > Yea
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all depends on purpose and what you call reasonable
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> On Jun 19, 2016, at 15:03, T Maylone wrote:
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> tractor supply 36 x 18 x 18 $219
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> all depends on purpose and what you call reasonable
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> Adair Winter wrote:
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> http://www.amprod.us/t-minifort_enclosures.aspx
The Biacells eNB can be changed to send all customer traffic to the core,
or you can send customer traffic to it's local Gateway.
We have not tried sending all the customer traffic from a Biacells eNB to
our Telrad core, but it is something I want to test out.
The Biacells eNB has NAT turned on fo
Possible to NOT NAT customer traffic on BaiCell?
> On Jun 19, 2016, at 15:49, Matthew Carpenter
> wrote:
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> The Biacells eNB can be changed to send all customer traffic to the core, or
> you can send customer traffic to it's local Gateway.
> We have not tried sending all the customer traffic
On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 2:49 PM, Matthew Carpenter <
mcarpen...@amarillowireless.net> wrote:
>
> The Biacells SIM cards will only authenticate with the Biacells Core. We
> were not given keys for those SIMs from Biacells.
> A Biacells SIM card will boot up with a Telrad 7000 UE and connect to a
>
Hi,
Yes, the current Biacells (11db) UE when using a Telrad SIM card will connect
to the Telrad eNB and Telrad core and work fine.
The only issue I have found is that I have to set the Biacells UE’s MTU setting
down to 1400 for it to work correctly.
The latest firmware from Telrad was supposed
>From my reading, it seems that this is called "local breakout". And all it
>means (I think) is that UEs roaming on a foreign network won't have their
>traffic tunneled all the way back to their provider's PGW, but can instead
>have it terminated on the foreign provider's PGW. I'm sure that th
I believe that Patrick has said as much (not SDR) on the ISP Radio interview
with him back in April. Would certainly go a ways to explaining how they
managed to offer it for basically 1/3rd the price of competing gear.
-- Nathan
From: wireless-boun...@wi
Okay, cool, so if one intermixes Baicells and Telrad on a network with their
own core, one can unify the experience across the line for their customers;
good.
The *eNB* is NATting? With no option to turn off if using local breakout?
(Not that I guess it matters if planning to use one's own co
Do you have a url?
On 6/19/2016 3:03 PM, T Maylone wrote:
tractor supply 36 x 18 x 18 $219
all depends on purpose and what you call reasonable
/Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID/
Adair Winter wrote:
http://www.amprod.us/t-minifort_enclosures.aspx
On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 4:42 PM,
What is Baicells UE default MTU?
I am not sure if all of the Telrad devices on the network (Compact & Breezeway)
properly support jumbo frames. I can't remember which device it was -- I
*think* it was the Breezeway -- but there was one I remember testing and found
a hard MTU limit on (IIRC, wi
On 6/19/2016 10:09 PM, Nathan Anderson wrote:
> I believe that Patrick has said as much (not SDR) on the ISP Radio interview
> with him back in April. Would certainly go a ways to explaining how they
> managed to offer it for basically 1/3rd the price of competing gear.
I only know what's publi
Here is the direct link to the offset in the ISP Radio interview where Baicells
SDR claim is laid to rest: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzXaLsN1yWc&t=3059
-- Nathan
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Goldste
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