Re: [WISPA] Can they really do this?

2012-09-28 Thread Blair Davis
WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Can they really do this?   There's a current debate raging right now on the NANOG list about the ins and outs

Re: [WISPA] Can they really do this?

2012-09-28 Thread Paul Conlin
AP and possibly end up with a $25,000.00 ticket.  YMMV         ---Original Message---   From: Greg Ihnen Date: 9/22/2012 5:34:47 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Can they really do this?   There's a current debate raging right now on the NANOG list about the ins and outs

Re: [WISPA] Can they really do this?

2012-09-24 Thread Zach Mann
nant on the fourth floor decides he is sick of >>>>> competing for airwaves for his wireless system and deploys the Cisco >>>>> or Motorola system and squashes all the other tenants APs. All the >>>>> other tenants APs now do not work because of the system which &g

Re: [WISPA] Can they really do this?

2012-09-24 Thread Greg Ihnen
competing for airwaves for his wireless system and deploys the Cisco >>>> or Motorola system and squashes all the other tenants APs. All the >>>> other tenants APs now do not work because of the system which >>>> has been put in place by the tenant on the fo

Re: [WISPA] Can they really do this?

2012-09-24 Thread Zach Mann
stem which >>> has been put in place by the tenant on the fourth floor. Would this be >>> a violation of Part-15 if all the other tenants were to file a formal >>> complaint with the FCC? >>> ** >>> *---Original Message---* >>> >>

Re: [WISPA] Can they really do this?

2012-09-24 Thread Greg Ihnen
e by the tenant on the fourth floor. Would this be a >> violation of Part-15 if all the other tenants were to file a formal >> complaint with the FCC? >> ** >> *---Original Message---* >> >> *From:* Greg Ihnen >> *Date:* 9/22/2012 5:34:47 AM >&

Re: [WISPA] Can they really do this?

2012-09-24 Thread Greg Ihnen
nts were to file a formal > complaint with the FCC? > ** > *---Original Message---* > > *From:* Greg Ihnen > *Date:* 9/22/2012 5:34:47 AM > *To:* WISPA General List > *Subject:* [WISPA] Can they really do this? > > There's a current debate raging right no

Re: [WISPA] Can they really do this?

2012-09-24 Thread Zach Mann
put in place by the tenant on the fourth floor. Would this be a > violation of Part-15 if all the other tenants were to file a formal > complaint with the FCC? > ** > *---Original Message---* > > *From:* Greg Ihnen > *Date:* 9/22/2012 5:34:47 AM > *To:* WISPA Gene

Re: [WISPA] Can they really do this?

2012-09-24 Thread Doug Clark
h floor. Would this be a violation of Part-15 if all the other tenants were to file a formal complaint with the FCC? ---Original Message--- From: Greg Ihnen Date: 9/22/2012 5:34:47 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Can they really do this? There's a current debate raging ri

Re: [WISPA] Can they really do this?

2012-09-24 Thread Daniel White
0 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 7:45 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Can they really do this? Cisco has this functionality. I would think if it were illegal, they would be slapped p

Re: [WISPA] Can they really do this?

2012-09-24 Thread Chuck Hogg
r right breaking into >> secure APs are not under the rules of Part-15. >> >> >> >> *---Original Message---* >> >> *From:* Jeromie Reeves >> *Date:* 9/23/2012 5:53:20 PM >> *To:* WISPA General List >> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA]

Re: [WISPA] Can they really do this?

2012-09-24 Thread Jon Auer
e Reeves > *Date:* 9/23/2012 5:53:20 PM > *To:* WISPA General List > *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Can they really do this? > > IANAL but, I am fairly sure P15 only applies to RF, not to the OSI layers. > If the FCC does have control of the OSI layers from a P15 device then > people doing

Re: [WISPA] Can they really do this?

2012-09-23 Thread Jeromie Reeves
are not under the rules of Part-15. > > > > > *---Original Message---* > > *From:* Doug Clark > *Date:* 9/23/2012 9:29:49 PM > *To:* WISPA General List > *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Can they really do this? > > > > > *---Original Message---* > > *From:*

Re: [WISPA] Can they really do this?

2012-09-23 Thread Doug Clark
APs are not under the rules of Part-15. ---Original Message--- From: Doug Clark Date: 9/23/2012 9:29:49 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Can they really do this? ---Original Message--- From: Jeromie Reeves Date: 9/23/2012 5:53:20 PM To: WISPA General L

Re: [WISPA] Can they really do this?

2012-09-23 Thread Doug Clark
rules of Part-15. ---Original Message--- From: Jeromie Reeves Date: 9/23/2012 5:53:20 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Can they really do this? IANAL but, I am fairly sure P15 only applies to RF, not to the OSI layers. If the FCC does have control of the OSI layers

Re: [WISPA] Can they really do this?

2012-09-23 Thread Jeromie Reeves
hnen > *Date:* 9/22/2012 5:34:47 AM > *To:* WISPA General List > *Subject:* [WISPA] Can they really do this? > > There's a current debate raging right now on the NANOG list about the ins > and outs of setting up large temporary networks for things like > conventions. > >

Re: [WISPA] Can they really do this?

2012-09-22 Thread Greg Ihnen
Thanks to everyone who replied to this topic! Greg On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Chris Stradtman < cstradt...@greenpointcommunications.com> wrote: > This is a common "feature" available under almost all of the enterprise > market APs / wireless switch systems. > I would hazard a guess that t

Re: [WISPA] Can they really do this?

2012-09-22 Thread Chris Stradtman
This is a common "feature" available under almost all of the enterprise market APs / wireless switch systems. I would hazard a guess that there are probably several hundred thousand APs in the world that already have this turned on and running. Although I would also guess that in many cases the per

Re: [WISPA] Can they really do this?

2012-09-22 Thread John Thomas
Ciscos wireless LAN controllers can do this. From the web page at http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps6366/products_qanda_item09186a008064a991.shtml Q. What is a Rogue AP? Can the rogue APs in my wireless network be automatically blocked? A. APs that are not part of your wireless deployment a

Re: [WISPA] Can they really do this?

2012-09-22 Thread Doug Clark
an entity could lodge a formal complaint against the person or entity that was operating said AP and possibly end up with a $25 000.00 ticket. YMMV ---Original Message--- From: Greg Ihnen Date: 9/22/2012 5:34:47 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Can they really do this

[WISPA] Can they really do this?

2012-09-22 Thread Greg Ihnen
There's a current debate raging right now on the NANOG list about the ins and outs of setting up large temporary networks for things like conventions. This one post caught my attention. Has anyone heard of a WiFi AP that will spoof neighboring networks to intentionally interfere with them, not by