Re: [WISPA] Sector separation/isolation

2009-05-12 Thread Matt
] Sector separation/isolation Right now channel 1 uses channel 1, 2 and 3. Channel 6 uses 4-8. When you go to 10MHz channels 1 will use 1 and 2. 6 will use 5, 6 and 7. Therefore, you are no longer on adjacent channels, there is a gap of channels 3 and 4 between. Also, you will cut down

Re: [WISPA] Sector separation/isolation

2009-05-03 Thread Michael Baird
...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Michael Baird Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 6:54 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Sector separation/isolation We are still experimenting with aligning sector's on our towers. We are attempting to use 3 120 degree/13db/6.5 vb/7 degree downtilt, antennas to cover

Re: [WISPA] Sector separation/isolation

2009-05-03 Thread os10rules
, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Michael Baird Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 6:54 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Sector separation/isolation We are still

Re: [WISPA] Sector separation/isolation

2009-05-03 Thread Michael Baird
] Sector separation/isolation We are still experimenting with aligning sector's on our towers. We are attempting to use 3 120 degree/13db/6.5 vb/7 degree downtilt, antennas to cover 360 degrees. I just inspected the towers myself, and noticed they are setup at 30 degrees/150 degrees/290

Re: [WISPA] Sector separation/isolation

2009-05-03 Thread Josh Luthman
: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Michael Baird Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 6:54 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Sector separation/isolation We are still experimenting with aligning sector's on our towers. We are attempting to use 3 120

Re: [WISPA] Sector separation/isolation

2009-05-03 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Michael Baird Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 7:14 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sector separation/isolation I think I didn't explain my problem clearly. 10mhz

Re: [WISPA] Sector separation/isolation

2009-05-03 Thread George Rogato
Of Michael Baird Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 6:54 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Sector separation/isolation We are still experimenting with aligning sector's on our towers. We are attempting to use 3 120 degree/13db/6.5 vb/7 degree downtilt, antennas to cover 360 degrees. I just

Re: [WISPA] Sector separation/isolation

2009-05-03 Thread Ralph
Michael What hardware are you using for your APs? Is it something with all 3 radio cards in one enclosure? Ralph WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] Sector separation/isolation

2009-05-03 Thread Michael Baird
They are ubiquities now, but they were tranzeo's previously and exhibited the same behavior. The AP's are physically located next each sector antenna, w/only the 1 card in each, with the water tower (w/water) in between. Regards Michael Baird Michael What hardware are you using for your

Re: [WISPA] Sector separation/isolation

2009-05-03 Thread Tom DeReggi
' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 10:10 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sector separation/isolation Michael What hardware are you using for your APs? Is it something with all 3 radio cards in one enclosure? Ralph

Re: [WISPA] Sector separation/isolation

2009-05-03 Thread Michael Baird
General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sector separation/isolation I think I didn't explain my problem clearly. 10mhz/5mhz channel sep makes no difference on how each AP see's each other on a site survey on the tower. I want to isolate the sectors from each other in a better way, they are too hot

Re: [WISPA] Sector separation/isolation

2009-05-03 Thread Michael Baird
...@bsrg.org To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 10:10 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sector separation/isolation Michael What hardware are you using for your APs? Is it something with all 3 radio cards in one enclosure? Ralph

Re: [WISPA] Sector separation/isolation

2009-05-03 Thread Mike Hammett
CTO WISP-Router, Inc. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Scott Reed scottr...@onlyinternet.net Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 11:40:31 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sector separation/isolation Right now channel 1 uses channel 1, 2

Re: [WISPA] Sector separation/isolation

2009-05-03 Thread Mike Hammett
To: e...@wisp-router.com; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sector separation/isolation How do you make this determination? What about an R52, or R5H? What about integrated units like NS2, NS2L? Jayson On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 10:00 AM, e...@wisp-router.com wrote

Re: [WISPA] Sector separation/isolation

2009-05-03 Thread Tom DeReggi
wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sector separation/isolation 1. UBNT PS2-EXT, Tranzeo 13db/120. 2. Water tower, mounted on catwalk railings. 3. No vertical, 20ft or so horizontal. Radios set to 23db tx, Antennas are 13db, should be under EIRP since we

Re: [WISPA] Sector separation/isolation

2009-05-03 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 4:52 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sector separation/isolation With the water tower in the middle, I find

Re: [WISPA] Sector separation/isolation

2009-05-03 Thread Jayson Baker
DeReggi Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 4:52 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sector separation/isolation With the water tower in the middle, I find it really odd you are hearing the other APs so loud. (With that much isolations I'm surprised you can't reuse the channels

Re: [WISPA] Sector separation/isolation

2009-05-03 Thread os10rules
Of Michael Baird Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 6:54 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Sector separation/isolation We are still experimenting with aligning sector's on our towers. We are attempting to use 3 120 degree/13db/6.5 vb/7 degree downtilt, antennas to cover 360 degrees. I just

Re: [WISPA] Sector separation/isolation

2009-05-03 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 8:52 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sector separation/isolation What kind of cable are you using between the APs and the antennas? On May 3, 2009, at 8:27 AM, Michael Baird wrote: Yes, I tried the 10mhz/5mhz channel widths, per recommendation

Re: [WISPA] Sector separation/isolation

2009-05-03 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
: [WISPA] Sector separation/isolation What kind of cable are you using between the APs and the antennas? On May 3, 2009, at 8:27 AM, Michael Baird wrote: Yes, I tried the 10mhz/5mhz channel widths, per recommendation, the AP's still saw each other at similar signal strengths (w/antenna). I

Re: [WISPA] Sector separation/isolation

2009-05-03 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Of Jayson Baker Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 6:29 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sector separation/isolation Are you in an industrial area with a lot of metal structures/buildings? You may be getting some major reflection going on. From my experience, a sector on the south side of a water

Re: [WISPA] Sector separation/isolation

2009-05-03 Thread Michael Baird
www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of os10ru...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 8:52 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sector separation/isolation What kind of cable are you

Re: [WISPA] Sector separation/isolation

2009-05-03 Thread Jason Wallace
ral List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sector separation/isolation What kind of cable are you using between the APs and the antennas? On May 3, 2009, at 8:27 AM, Michael Baird wrote: Yes, I tried the 10mhz/5mhz channel widths, per recommendation, the AP's still saw each other at similar

[WISPA] Sector separation/isolation

2009-05-02 Thread Michael Baird
We are still experimenting with aligning sector's on our towers. We are attempting to use 3 120 degree/13db/6.5 vb/7 degree downtilt, antennas to cover 360 degrees. I just inspected the towers myself, and noticed they are setup at 30 degrees/150 degrees/290 degrees (so they aren't right

Re: [WISPA] Sector separation/isolation

2009-05-02 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
General List Subject: [WISPA] Sector separation/isolation We are still experimenting with aligning sector's on our towers. We are attempting to use 3 120 degree/13db/6.5 vb/7 degree downtilt, antennas to cover 360 degrees. I just inspected the towers myself, and noticed they are setup at 30

Re: [WISPA] Sector separation/isolation

2009-05-02 Thread Michael Baird
WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Michael Baird Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 6:54 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Sector

Re: [WISPA] Sector separation/isolation

2009-05-02 Thread Scott Reed
www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Michael Baird Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 6:54 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Sector separation/isolation We are still experimenting with aligning

Re: [WISPA] Sector separation/isolation

2009-05-02 Thread eje
via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Scott Reed scottr...@onlyinternet.net Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 11:40:31 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sector separation/isolation Right now channel 1 uses channel 1, 2 and 3. Channel 6 uses 4-8. When

Re: [WISPA] Sector separation/isolation

2009-05-02 Thread Jayson Baker
, 02 May 2009 11:40:31 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sector separation/isolation Right now channel 1 uses channel 1, 2 and 3. Channel 6 uses 4-8. When you go to 10MHz channels 1 will use 1 and 2. 6 will use 5, 6 and 7. Therefore, you are no longer on adjacent

Re: [WISPA] Sector separation/isolation

2009-05-02 Thread Tom Sharples
If you can, use vertical as well as horizontal separation. Just a few feet can make a huge difference. Tom S. - Original Message - From: Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 3:53 AM Subject: [WISPA] Sector separation