Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 11:51 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon
Another quick question...
If you are running a Canopy Advantage AP and you use regular Canopy
SM's, can the AP still deliver the 14Mbps of bandwidth, or will it be
limited
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 7:03 PM
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So the AP will deliver 14Mbps of bandwidth even if all the SM's are only
running at 1x rate?
Travis
Microserv
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145
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General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon
Hi,
Don't you have to have like a -65 or better signal to get 2x rate?
Travis
Microserv
Gino A. Villarini wrote:
Not the case, 14 mbps is 2x mode, but the only reason for all your Sm's
would be a 1x would be cause they are old radios (p7,p8
] On
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon
Hi,
Don't you have to have like a -65 or better signal to get 2x rate?
Travis
Microserv
Gino A. Villarini wrote:
Not the case, 14 mbps is 2x mode, but the only
Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 6:03 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon
So the AP will deliver 14Mbps of bandwidth even if all the SM's are only
running at 1x rate?
Travis
Microserv
Mike Bushard, Jr wrote:
Run Advantage AP's and Legacy SM's
Don, you talking about the AZ
event?
DSJ
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Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006
10:58 AM
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Subject: RE: Motorola membership
(Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon)
I
Coming to a City Near You
http://www.winog.com
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Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 9:37 AM
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Subject: RE: Motorola membership (Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon)
I have
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Subject: RE: Motorola membership (Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon)
As one of Canopy's largest ACSPs in the US, I know all the people at Canopy
We have been talking about WISPA -- and are putting something together for a
sponsorship
Stay tuned...
-Charles
I was told a couple of days ago that the regular SMs are going away soon.
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, September 29, 2006 12:27 PMTo: ''WISPA General List''Subject: RE: Motorola membership (Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon)As one of Canopy's largest ACSPs in the US, I know all the people at CanopyWe have been talking about WISPA -- and are putting something together for asponsorshipStay tuned...-Charles
On 9/29/06, Ron Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Charles,
I know this is a duh question, but what is an ACSP??
DUH. Google is your friend. It's *obviously* the Australasian College of Sports Physicians.;)-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC
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Title: Re: Motorola membership (Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon)
Association of Closet and Storage Professionals
http://www.closets.org/
Humm... Is Charles trying to tell us something :)
On 9/29/06 4:22 PM, Dylan Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.acsp.org.au/ On 9/29/06, Ron
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I was told a couple of days ago that the regular SMs are going away soon.
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To: 'WISPA
On 9/28/06, Rick Harnish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If we can get Motorola to become a WISPA
vendor member, we will gladly start a list here without those restrictions.
How has Motorola been approached?Best,-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC
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On 9/28/06, Rick Harnish
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If we can get Motorola to become a WISPA
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(Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon)
Im not sure whether they have
yet. I think they were last year but I dont recall right
now. Anyone who is a valuable Motorola customer want
Just looked at the webpage to gather statistics like WISPA membership and mailing list subscription, but did not see it at http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=2. What audience will they reach by becoming a vendor member?
The WISPA Vendor Members text in the left column should be a link to either section
Partial hijack here. On a related subject, is there anyone at Motorola
that is really good with WISPs. Someone who I can call and talk to as
a Canopy user. Not a script reader. I admit I have never called them.
I rely on vendors, and other WISPs for all Canopy related info and
support.
You might want to take this discussion over to the Member list.
Dylan Oliver wrote:
Just looked at the webpage to gather statistics like WISPA membership
and mailing list subscription, but did not see it at
http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=2. What audience will they reach by
becoming a vendor
Solutions, LLC
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Partial hijack here. On a related
Dylan Oliver wrote:
Just looked at the webpage to gather statistics like WISPA membership
and mailing list subscription, but did not see it at
http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=2. What audience will they reach by
becoming a vendor member?
The WISPA Vendor Members text in the left column should
: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon
Patrick Leary wrote:
I'm speaking about multipoint matt, not ptp. The dedicated ptp
you are
doing is by far the exception. Canopy is designed, built, and
sold to be
primarily a pmp system. I've never met or heard of a Canopy pmp
network
of any scale that did
the full 14Mb
Aggregate.
Mike Bushard, Jr
Wisper Wireless Solutions, LLC
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Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 11:51 AM
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Another quick
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon
Another quick question...
If you are running a Canopy Advantage AP and you use regular Canopy
SM's, can the AP still deliver the 14Mbps
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
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Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 11:51 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon
Another quick question...
If you are running a Canopy Advantage AP and you use regular Canopy
SM's, can the AP still deliver the 14Mbps
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
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Another quick question...
If you are running a Canopy Advantage AP and you use regular Canopy
SM's, can the AP still deliver the 14Mbps
Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon
Someone posted a 3rd party GPS sync module (around $300 I think?). Can
someone share that info with me again, please? :)
Travis
Microserv
Mike Bushard, Jr wrote:
Run Advantage AP's and Legacy SM's.
With the Advantage AP's and legacy SM's you get
that town is pretty well smoked.
Mike Bushard, Jr
Wisper Wireless Solutions, LLC
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
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Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 1:12 AM
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Well I
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
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Well I have had 2.4ghz radio's link up at -89db (not very well mind you
but...) so I don't know what to tell you other then Moto has
.
It seems like we can always pick up a AP at -80.
YMMV.
Mike Bushard, Jr
Wisper Wireless Solutions, LLC
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Message-
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Behalf Of Anthony Will
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 1:12 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon
Well I have had 2.4ghz radio's link up at -89db (not very well mind you
but...) so I don't know what
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon
Hi,
First, the spec sheet on Motorola's website says -86 RSSI.
What happens when you have more than 3 towers outside of the 8 mile
range of GPS sync? The 2.4ghz signal will definately travel that far,
causing self-interference, correct
Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon
Hey Patrick, GPS...there's many reasons and it's not a canopy vs
alvarion debate from my standpoint, more so a scheduled mac(canopy,
wimax, 3G...) vs unscheduled(wifi, VL, currently Trango). I'd predict
that as wisp education progresses, they will realize
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Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 8:32 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs
Brad,
Software controlled dual polarity might be nice. Not sure why you
consistently harp on us though
Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs
I should have also
noted that per the info below, most Alvarion operators simply have a policy
that they will only connect subscribers for whom a minimum number of the green
LEDs will fire and hold. For example, having 4 for of the 8 green LEDs light
: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon
Hey Patrick, GPS...there's many reasons and it's not a canopy vs
alvarion debate from my standpoint, more so a scheduled mac(canopy,
wimax, 3G...) vs unscheduled(wifi, VL, currently Trango). I'd predict
that as wisp education progresses, they will realize the power
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 7:57 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs
Ahhh... there's always a catch... so now Motorola has your customer's
address and can use that for their own marketing, etc. without you ever
knowing
]
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145
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Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 2:00 AM
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I'm sure most know
with more towers needed (again saving the service
provider money). Brad
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 6:44 PM
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Trango Atlas CPE with dish $250?
Canopy
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Brad Larson
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 9:31 AM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs
Gino, I have to admit Alvarion has some work to do for the smaller wisp's
out there. Patrick will have his hands full on this one
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs
I'm sure most know that was a 'play' and basically secured Moto's
position to sell WIMAX gear to the 2nd largest 2.5GHz spectrum holder.
It would have been interesting if Alvarion had been in their place...not
sure if you guys have
for committed rate business
offerings.
Best,
Brad
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Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 9:31 AM
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Gino, I have to admit Alvarion has some
]
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 11:30 AM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs
Price is always a factor, but we would gladly pay a premium for VL with the
sorely needed HARDWARE improvements:
(1) Dual Polarity via software
(2) Dual Band 5.3GHz and 5.8GHz
These are time
square mile
centers vs high rooftop with more towers needed (again saving the service
provider money). Brad
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Trango
Larson
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 10:50 AM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs
Brad Belton, Respectfully, there are 100's of wisp's proving you wrong. OFDM
in UL has its place and making blanket statements to the contrary makes
little sense. There is great debate
the
fact that Scriv is probably sleeping better at night without the outages he
used to have.
Brad
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Price is always
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Travis,
WE provide Symetrical Business service with Canopy, why you couldn't ?
A Regular AP has 7 Mbps if you split 75/25 that translates to : 5.25 /
1.75
DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 4:42 PM
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There are arguments against dual band
, IncIntAirNet- Fixed Wireless
Broadband
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From:
Patrick Leary
To: WISPA General List
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 6:02
PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs
Hi Tom. What hardware
features are you referring to?
Patrick
, but I give credit where credit is
due.
Tom DeReggiRapidDSL Wireless, IncIntAirNet- Fixed Wireless
Broadband
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From:
Brad Belton
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Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 12:59
PM
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Exactly
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To: WISPA General List
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 12:36
PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs
I should have also
noted that per the info below, most Alvarion operators simply have a policy
that they will only connect
.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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From: Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 6:28 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs
Tom,
I can give you some
Patrick Leary wrote:
I have a very interesting new (this month) pdf about this topic that
compares Canopy Advantage and BreezeACCESS VL in a variety of ways, from
a coverage modeling example using high end propagation software to VoIP
stats using company documents from both companies.
We
List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs
Agreed, VL does have more niche features and some of those can be the sole
reason VL makes the cut and other products do not. As you know VLAN support
was the key feature in this particular case, but simply placing a CPE router
on site will also fill that need
you have to. Brad
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Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 1:34 PM
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Hello Brad,
I think you are missing the point of the thread here. The point is to offer
up
: Monday, September 25, 2006 3:17 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon
Jon,
Why is that the case? You really think GPS on Canopy is some cool feature?
Canopy must have GPS to function. Without it, it kills itself.
It is all to prevent self-inflicted interference (remember
Patrick Leary wrote:
Why is that the case? You really think GPS on Canopy is some cool
feature? Canopy must have GPS to function. Without it, it kills itself.
It is all to prevent self-inflicted interference (remember, Canopy does
not even have ATPC) and to allow for channel re-use. Other
11:00 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs
I'm sure most know that was a 'play' and basically secured Moto's
position to sell WIMAX gear to the 2nd largest 2.5GHz spectrum holder.
It would have been interesting if Alvarion had been in their place...not
sure if you guys have
.
Best,
Brad
-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Brad Larson
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 12:59 PM
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I'm not missing the point at all. There is a debate and the findings aren't
.
Patrick
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Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 1:01 PM
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Patrick Leary wrote:
Why is that the case? You really think GPS on Canopy is some
Comments inline:
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Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 4:49 PM
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Hello Brad,
Forgive me as I just now realized you are with Alvarion and not an end user.
Refresh my
List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs
inline
Brad Belton wrote:
Price is always a factor, but we would gladly pay a premium for VL with the
sorely needed HARDWARE improvements:
(1) Dual Polarity via software
(2) Dual Band 5.3GHz and 5.8GHz
I know trango does dual polarity, but who does
] vendor specs -- Jon
Patrick Leary wrote:
I'm speaking about multipoint matt, not ptp. The dedicated ptp you are
doing is by far the exception. Canopy is designed, built, and sold to
be
primarily a pmp system. I've never met or heard of a Canopy pmp
network
of any scale that did not require
fax 787.273.4145
-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 3:17 PM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon
Jon,
Why is that the case? You really think GPS on Canopy is some
Scrivner
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 8:18 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs
Brad and Brad. You guys are getting boringsaying the same drivel
over and over. PLEASE either take your broken record off line or say
something original.
Scriv
Brad Belton wrote:
Hello Brad
: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon
Patrick Leary wrote:
I'm speaking about multipoint matt, not ptp. The dedicated ptp you are
doing is by far the exception. Canopy is designed, built, and sold to be
primarily a pmp system. I've never met or heard of a Canopy pmp network
of any scale that did
-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Brad Larson
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 10:50 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs
Brad Belton, Respectfully, there are 100's of wisp's proving you
wrong. OFDM
in UL has its place and making blanket
, September 25, 2006 5:07 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon
Patrick Leary wrote:
I'm speaking about multipoint matt, not ptp. The dedicated ptp you are
doing is by far the exception. Canopy is designed, built, and sold
to be
primarily a pmp system. I've never met
Hey Patrick, GPS...there's many reasons and it's not a canopy vs
alvarion debate from my standpoint, more so a scheduled mac(canopy,
wimax, 3G...) vs unscheduled(wifi, VL, currently Trango). I'd predict
that as wisp education progresses, they will realize the power of
scheduled mac and GPS
Geez Patrick, go to bed!!! Get some rest
Seriously, this is a great list. Definitely shows how the VL is a
completely different animal than the other options out there.
Matt Larsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Patrick Leary wrote:
I believe most if not all of the below are features not found
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Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 1:05 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs
Geez Patrick, go to bed!!! Get some rest
Seriously, this is a great list. Definitely shows how
Brad,
Software controlled dual polarity might be nice. Not sure why you
consistently harp on us though since no one else has it either other
than your longtime preferred vendor.
I am not as convinced about your complaint about RSSI. Is it just used
to RSSI like being used to feet in stead of
to determine the link budget in advance to
implementation. Snr wont help much there...
Gino
-Original Message-
From: Patrick Leary[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 9/24/06 11:32:47 AM
To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
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Brad
Message-
From: Patrick Leary[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 9/24/06 11:32:47 AM
To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs
Brad,
Software controlled dual polarity might be nice. Not sure why you
consistently harp on us though since no one
: [WISPA] vendor specs
Right, but the LED bar on the CPE can be used to do that. I mean, isn't
SNR more complete than just RSSI, meaning if your SNR is good than the RSSI is
by default good. Anyway, I have never heard of any moderately experienced VL
user say the units did not convey enough info
Leary
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006
12:24 PM
To: WISPA
General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs
Right, but the LED bar on the CPE can be used to do that. I mean, isn't
SNR more complete than just RSSI, meaning if your SNR is good than the RSSI is
by default good. Anyway, I have never
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Gino A. Villarini
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006
11:48 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs
The problem with SNR for
alignment purposes is that you are dealing with a variable in noise, with rssi
you work with fixed numbers. Im not dissing SNR
Of Gino A. Villarini
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006
9:48 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs
The problem with SNR for alignment
purposes is that you are dealing with a variable in noise, with rssi you work
with fixed numbers. Im not dissing SNR, it is extremely important
, September 24, 2006 9:48 AM
*To:* 'WISPA General List'
*Subject:* RE: [WISPA] vendor specs
The problem with SNR for alignment purposes is that you are dealing
with a variable in noise, with rssi you work with fixed numbers. I’m
not dissing SNR, it is extremely important, But for example, in order
, 2006 11:14 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs
Not to beat the horse here but I think having SNR, RSSI and Noise
readings are all things people should have in an advanced platform.
Granted if you have any two you can get the third but just having it all
right
Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 12:34 PM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs
Re dual polarity via software, I and others have always said it would be
nice. You've never heard me argue
Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs
Let me comment on this
#Canopy 5.7 AP - $970 (Advantage $1,974)
is this MRSP ? you can buy this the AP for $800 +/- , Advantage for $1500
#C/I advantage
#Fixed up/down ratio
Add GPS Sync, Feature rich firmware, NMS Software, Strong support, Good
promos
DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
- Original Message -
From: Anthony Will [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 11:17 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs
Your numbers are a bit off on the canopy
WISP Markets
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
Vonage: 650.641.1243
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Brad Belton
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 12:24 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs
Agreed, VL
Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs
Trango is no where near $400 for Atlas Foxes. Trango's Atlas Fox's
distance
without dish is just about the same as the standard Canopy CPE (same DBI
antenna).
Remember that Trango lists retail on their site to protest the WISP.
Low
volume WISP special pricing
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Brad Belton
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 12:24 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs
Agreed, VL does have more niche features and some of those can be the
sole
reason VL makes the cut and other products do
, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 12:10 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs
Trango offers many different CPE (5830, Fox, Fox Atlas, etc
: [WISPA] vendor specs
If you're serving the residential market, and price is the big concern, it's
worth noting that Canopy has a $40 / customer residential rebate program
that's been going on for almost 2 years now
It's also worth noting with Canopy that you need to add ~$10 / unit for
power supplies
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From: Gino Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 8:07 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs
Advantage AP 14 Mbps will give you 7 / 7 Mbps, and thats at the same time,
wheres with Trango you can only get
product
offers or what the guys in Latvia can really deliver.
Patrick
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 2:00 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs
To be fair, you shouldn't
Hi Tom. What hardware features are you
referring to?
Patrick
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 4:10 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs
Gino,
The prices you state seem way low. I've only see nthat on temporar or Ebay
type buying
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 4:13 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs
Trango is no where near $400 for Atlas Foxes. Trango's Atlas Fox's distance
without dish is just about the same as the standard Canopy CPE (same DBI
antenna).
Remember that Trango lists retail
] On
Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 4:53 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs
So what is the onesy-twosy price of a Trango Atlas with an extended
range antenna? What is the price for a Canopy Advantage CPE with
extended range? I have plenty of data I've
.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 3:44 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs
Trango Atlas CPE with dish $250?
Canopy with dish $275
Canopy Advantage Cluster:
6
Patrick,
Good list. One question that I have...
Does the VL use polling or is it CSMA/CA?
Your list says it is not some basic CSMA/CA but does that mean it is
or is not CSMA/CA?
Thanks very much,
jack
Patrick Leary wrote:
I believe most if not all of the below are
Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 3:42 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs
There are arguments against dual band support, as we have discussed
before, though you ridicule our sincere reasoning and call it BS (which
is why I am cautious about discussing
lolyou are kidding right Patrick?
Brad
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006
5:03 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs
Hi Tom. What hardware
features are you
@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 11:18 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs
If you're serving the residential market, and price is the big
concern, it's
worth noting that Canopy has a $40 / customer residential rebate
program
that's been going on for almost 2 years now
It's also
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