Re: [WISPA] your thoughts on opps in Africa?

2008-09-10 Thread John Scrivner
In the case of South Africa I know what is going on. The government owns the phone company there. There is a conflict of interest. The regulators get paid by the same people running the phone company. It would be like ATT being owned by the FCC or vice-versa. How hard do you think we would have it

Re: [WISPA] your thoughts on opps in Africa?

2008-09-10 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Huge diff between SA and Nigeria... - Original Message - From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:16 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] your thoughts on opps in Africa? In the case of South Africa I

Re: [WISPA] your thoughts on opps in Africa?

2008-09-09 Thread Charles Wu
General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] your thoughts on opps in Africa? - Original Message - From: D. Ryan Spott [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 1:26 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] your thoughts on opps in Africa? I have heard

[WISPA] your thoughts on opps in Africa?

2008-09-08 Thread Rogelio
Is it just me, or do African wireless opportunities rarely materialize? I've been involved in tons and tons of big ($10+M, in theory) projects where all sorts of big numbers are thrown out, but for whatever reason, someone never ultimately pulls the trigger. (Not sure what I'm missing, but

Re: [WISPA] your thoughts on opps in Africa?

2008-09-08 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
The good ones are always in Nigeria... - Original Message - From: Rogelio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 12:19 PM Subject: [WISPA] your thoughts on opps in Africa? Is it just me, or do African wireless opportunities rarely

Re: [WISPA] your thoughts on opps in Africa?

2008-09-08 Thread Doug Ratcliffe
if they contacted you with a $10 million dollar deal? - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 2:24 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] your thoughts on opps in Africa? The good ones

Re: [WISPA] your thoughts on opps in Africa?

2008-09-08 Thread Doug Ratcliffe
if they contacted you with a $10 million dollar deal? - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 2:24 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] your thoughts on opps in Africa? The good ones

Re: [WISPA] your thoughts on opps in Africa?

2008-09-08 Thread Dennis Burgess
? - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 2:24 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] your thoughts on opps in Africa? The good ones are always in Nigeria... - Original Message

Re: [WISPA] your thoughts on opps in Africa?

2008-09-08 Thread Rogelio
Dennis Burgess wrote: Depends if you are used to doing that. However, I do know they are investing quite a bit of money in the Nigerian infrustructure. I know what Routers they are using. lol Joking aside, there is big money in building telcos in Nigeria. Some Los Angeles based VCs I

Re: [WISPA] your thoughts on opps in Africa?

2008-09-08 Thread Rogelio
Doug Ratcliffe wrote: I mean, seriously, in the IT business, would you even believe someone if they contacted you with a $10 million dollar deal? They don't always say it like that. Often they give the areas that they need coverage and the bandwidth that they'd like for those areas to have

Re: [WISPA] your thoughts on opps in Africa?

2008-09-08 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 12:44 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] your thoughts on opps in Africa? Dennis Burgess wrote: Depends if you are used to doing that. However, I do know they are investing quite a bit of money in the Nigerian infrustructure. I

Re: [WISPA] your thoughts on opps in Africa?

2008-09-08 Thread 3-dB Networks
PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 12:44 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] your thoughts on opps in Africa? Dennis Burgess wrote: Depends if you are used to doing that. However, I do know they are investing quite a bit of money in the Nigerian

Re: [WISPA] your thoughts on opps in Africa?

2008-09-08 Thread Jeff Broadwick
Subject: Re: [WISPA] your thoughts on opps in Africa? We were in Sakhalin Island in Russia. The government just up and decided to take over everything. Booted out the oil companies and said finders keepers to everyone. I will never do any intl work again without full money up front

Re: [WISPA] your thoughts on opps in Africa?

2008-09-08 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Couple of years ago. - Original Message - From: 3-dB Networks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 12:54 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] your thoughts on opps in Africa? Ouch! When did that happen Chuck? Daniel White 3-dB Networks

Re: [WISPA] your thoughts on opps in Africa?

2008-09-08 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
We provided communications to Marathon and Shell. - Original Message - From: Jeff Broadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] your thoughts on opps in Africa? Were you with Marathon Oil? When I

Re: [WISPA] your thoughts on opps in Africa?

2008-09-08 Thread 3-dB Networks
- 3 Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 1:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] your thoughts on opps in Africa? Couple of years ago. - Original Message - From: 3-dB Networks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 12:54 PM

Re: [WISPA] your thoughts on opps in Africa?

2008-09-08 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Russia, the New Soviet Union. - Original Message - From: 3-dB Networks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] your thoughts on opps in Africa? I was just curious if it was a Soviet Union thing

Re: [WISPA] your thoughts on opps in Africa?

2008-09-08 Thread Christopher Orr
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 3 Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 1:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] your thoughts on opps in Africa? Couple of years ago. - Original Message - From: 3-dB Networks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless

Re: [WISPA] your thoughts on opps in Africa?

2008-09-08 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Yah, the word muther was muttered many times. - Original Message - From: Christopher Orr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 1:16 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] your thoughts on opps in Africa? There's an In mother Russia joke

Re: [WISPA] your thoughts on opps in Africa?

2008-09-08 Thread D. Ryan Spott
: [WISPA] your thoughts on opps in Africa? We were in Sakhalin Island in Russia. The government just up and decided to take over everything. Booted out the oil companies and said finders keepers to everyone. I will never do any intl work again without full money up front. - Original

Re: [WISPA] your thoughts on opps in Africa?

2008-09-08 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Subject: Re: [WISPA] your thoughts on opps in Africa? We were in Sakhalin Island in Russia. The government just up and decided to take over everything. Booted out the oil companies and said finders keepers to everyone. I will never do any intl work again without full money up front

Re: [WISPA] your thoughts on opps in Africa?

2008-09-08 Thread Tom Sharples
. www.qorvus.com 800.757.1571 Ext 100 - Original Message - From: Rogelio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 11:19 AM Subject: [WISPA] your thoughts on opps in Africa? Is it just me, or do African wireless opportunities rarely

Re: [WISPA] your thoughts on opps in Africa?

2008-09-08 Thread Jeff Broadwick
] On Behalf Of Tom Sharples Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 4:57 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] your thoughts on opps in Africa? Exactly the same experience here. Lots of talk, long-winded network design, layout, and bidding process with numerous tweaks and revisions, and ultimately

Re: [WISPA] your thoughts on opps in Africa?

2008-09-08 Thread Rogelio
Tom Sharples wrote: Exactly the same experience here. Lots of talk, long-winded network design, layout, and bidding process with numerous tweaks and revisions, and ultimately nothing. Complete waste of time for us, but I don't see what they get out of it either (?) My guess is that

Re: [WISPA] your thoughts on opps in Africa?

2008-09-08 Thread Jeff Ehman
PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] your thoughts on opps in Africa? I have a good sized customer in Africa. Their network has been built steadily over time, and I've met the principle on several occasions. We've done lots of smaller projects, but always on a cash basis. Jeff

Re: [WISPA] your thoughts on opps in Africa?

2008-09-08 Thread Tom DeReggi
Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Jeff Broadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 4:06 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] your thoughts on opps in Africa? I have a good sized customer in Africa. Their network has been built

Re: [WISPA] your thoughts on opps in Africa?

2008-09-08 Thread George Rogato
, the chapter presidency and the BIA, it means nothing. - Original Message - From: D. Ryan Spott [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 1:26 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] your thoughts on opps in Africa? I have heard of that happening

Re: [WISPA] your thoughts on opps in Africa?

2008-09-08 Thread Sam Tetherow
: Monday, September 08, 2008 11:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] your thoughts on opps in Africa? We were in Sakhalin Island in Russia. The government just up and decided to take over everything. Booted out the oil companies and said

Re: [WISPA] your thoughts on opps in Africa?

2008-09-08 Thread Sam Tetherow
, September 08, 2008 1:26 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] your thoughts on opps in Africa? I have heard of that happening on native lands here in the US too. I have nothing to confirm that though. ryan -Original Message- From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September