RE: iPads, Labs/classroom use, 802.1x

2011-04-01 Thread Randall C Grimshaw
Not in this specific example, but we do use cloudpath.net xpressconnect to configure iPads and it works well. perhaps the solution is as simple as teaching the students how to clear their credentials at the end of class? Randall Grimshaw rgrim...@syr.edu

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] One user, many devices

2011-04-01 Thread James J J Hooper
On 01/04/2011 22:20, David LaPorte wrote: I randomly chose a few and the OUIs are all Apple, so it looks OK. I also checked the user-agent strings and they look to be iPhones. Strange. On 04/01/11 16:59, James J J Hooper wrote: On 01/04/2011 21:03, David LaPorte wrote: I would've hoped so, b

iPads, Labs/classroom use, 802.1x

2011-04-01 Thread Green, William C
Does anyone have experience managing iPads for classrooms (where an iPad is given to each user and returned at the end of the course, only for the next class to pick them up)? I'm interested in how to manage credentials in an 802.1x environment (to ensure actions on the network are attributable

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] One user, many devices

2011-04-01 Thread David LaPorte
I randomly chose a few and the OUIs are all Apple, so it looks OK. I also checked the user-agent strings and they look to be iPhones. Strange. On 04/01/11 16:59, James J J Hooper wrote: > On 01/04/2011 21:03, David LaPorte wrote: >> I would've hoped so, but ~36% of devices fingerprinted as >> iP

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] One user, many devices

2011-04-01 Thread James J J Hooper
On 01/04/2011 21:03, David LaPorte wrote: I would've hoped so, but ~36% of devices fingerprinted as iPod/iPad/iPhone didn't sent a hostname. Of those that did, ~27% changed it from the default Apple format :( On 04/01/11 15:47, James J J Hooper wrote: Can you not differentiate between iOS de

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] One user, many devices

2011-04-01 Thread Miller, Gregory William
Somewhat related, the nook color's User-Agent string makes it look like a Mac: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10_5_7; en-us) AppleWebKit/530.17 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Safari/530.17 Further searching online found that if the device's browser is put into “mobile mode” the user-

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless to the Rescue...

2011-04-01 Thread Barber, Matt
Thank you Philippe :) This thread gave me a lot of laughs today. Perfect for those of us that read it regularly. Matt Barber Network and Systems Manager Morrisville State College 315-684-6053 -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRE

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] One user, many devices

2011-04-01 Thread David LaPorte
I would've hoped so, but ~36% of devices fingerprinted as iPod/iPad/iPhone didn't sent a hostname. Of those that did, ~27% changed it from the default Apple format :( On 04/01/11 15:47, James J J Hooper wrote: > On 01/04/2011 20:18, David LaPorte wrote: >>> Thanks for sharing always interesting t

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] One user, many devices

2011-04-01 Thread James J J Hooper
On 01/04/2011 20:18, David LaPorte wrote: Thanks for sharing always interesting to see this kind of information. Wwe have some similar statistics running, so I've included a couple of graphs of our own. Interested to know about how you do this via detecting browser agents when looking at device t

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] One user, many devices

2011-04-01 Thread David LaPorte
> Thanks for sharing always interesting to see this kind of information. > Wwe have some similar statistics running, so I've included a couple of > graphs of our own. Interested to know about how you do this via > detecting browser agents when looking at device type. We have been using > DHCP finge

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless to the Rescue...

2011-04-01 Thread Lee, Steven
We have also adopted the same strategy as the U. of Bristol. However we solved it in a more efficient method than using dynamic ACL's. We simply turn off IPv4 on the AP's near the lecture halls. This allows them access to Facebook, Google, NetFlix and YouTube over IPv6. The feedback we recei

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless to the Rescue...

2011-04-01 Thread Caroline Owens
Fantastic! you really had everyone... Caroline Owens Networking and Telecommunications Saint Joseph's University (610) 660-1613 On 4/1/2011 3:08 PM, Hanset, Philippe C wrote: I have been thinking about continuing the debate, but it is April 2nd in Australia... I did write "check the date"

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless to the Rescue...

2011-04-01 Thread Hanset, Philippe C
I have been thinking about continuing the debate, but it is April 2nd in Australia... I did write "check the date" at the end of my email, though! Sorry all, I had more fun reading the responses than writing my silly April's fool. Have a great W-E, Philippe On Apr 1, 2011, at 1:20 PM, Jeffrey

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless to the Rescue...

2011-04-01 Thread James J J Hooper
On 01/04/2011 17:22, Hanset, Philippe C wrote: All, University of Tennessee has had some class attendance issues lately, especially with Sophomores. We came up with a location based wireless solution that could fix this issue. We have built a database of rooms surrounding Access-Points that we c

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless to the Rescue...

2011-04-01 Thread Brian Helman
This is a good point. We've also talked about some ability to provide "distance learning" to students who are sick .. or (as I look outside at the 6" of new snow) when we have closures due to weather. I guess I'm on the free-market side of this -- in the end, it's up to the students. After al

RE: Wireless to the Rescue...

2011-04-01 Thread Lee H Badman
We are going the opposite direction- while Philippe is turning the screws on students, we are actually using wireless to enable quality of life in unique ways, using a startup vendor as we replace our Cisco infrastructure: http://www.networkcomputing.com/wireless/been-in-it-long-sailor.php Fro

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless to the Rescue...

2011-04-01 Thread Jonn Martell
Philip, A better idea is to *attract* students to class not punish them for not being there. After extensive research and development. Universities in Canada have created a consortium to create a Facebook robot which will initially assist professors but will ultimately replace them. The legacy t

RE: Wireless to the Rescue...

2011-04-01 Thread Brian Helman
We considered something like this (wired and wireless) for another reason .. so that students weren't using the Internet while sitting in classes when they SHOULDN'T be using the Internet. But we decided against it because we were concerned about the students who blow off "class A" because they

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless to the Rescue...

2011-04-01 Thread Trevor Wallis
Philippe, Is there any method of giving grace to a student who is sick and staying in the dorm? "If you're too sick to go to class, you're too sick to use the WiFi"? Just wondering if you have a way of handling that. Regards, Trevor Trevor A. Wallis Vice President of Campus Technology Chief I

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless to the Rescue...

2011-04-01 Thread Cal Frye
On 4/1/11 12:22 PM, Hanset, Philippe C wrote: > University of Tennessee has had some class attendance issues lately, > especially with Sophomores. > We came up with a location based wireless solution that could fix this issue. > We have built a database of rooms surrounding Access-Points that we co

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless to the Rescue...

2011-04-01 Thread Jeffrey Sessler
That's just not right. These people are adults, and as such, should be able to decide on their own if they are going to attend class. The college is not their parents, and it's not a daycare. This is a behavior issue with needs addressing, and disabling the technology is not the answer. What's n

Re: Wireless to the Rescue...

2011-04-01 Thread Nathan Hay
We have an AT&T tower on campus and part of our agreement was that they would disable student's cell phone access during their scheduled class times unless they texted a special code the professor provided at the start of each class. We've had trouble getting the professors to give out the code

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless to the Rescue...

2011-04-01 Thread heath.barnhart
Title: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless to the Rescue... Does this tie into a NAC? I think it would also be useful to correlate the student to multiple registered devices, specifically gaming devices. XBox and PS3 especially. I'm not sure if I could get that system in place here, but

RE: Wireless to the Rescue...

2011-04-01 Thread Lee H Badman
Wow- I'm thinking a laundry list of conflicting "this is cool/this is draconian/this would make sense in a military school" sorts of thoughts... I guess my prevailing thought is that if a student chooses to blow off class, is that not his or her own choice and problem when in a setting other tha

Wireless to the Rescue...

2011-04-01 Thread Hanset, Philippe C
All, University of Tennessee has had some class attendance issues lately, especially with Sophomores. We came up with a location based wireless solution that could fix this issue. We have built a database of rooms surrounding Access-Points that we correlate with a class roster. Basically if a stud