Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless Only in Student Housing?

2018-08-24 Thread Jeffrey D. Sessler
Dan, We were one of the first colleges nationally to provide wired “gigabit to the pillow” in all of our residential halls. Today, those residential halls are WiFi-only and we’ve abandoned the wired, going as far as to remove the copper doing renovations. Done well, with dense coverage

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless Only in Student Housing?

2018-08-24 Thread Hunter Fuller
The main reasons we keep running one port per pillow is gaming and research projects. Students want their gaming PCs to have wired Ethernet, and they sometimes need to transfer large files for research or classwork. As a result of these factors, we'll likely keep installing the drops to each

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless Only in Student Housing?

2018-08-24 Thread AIS
How do your xbox users feel about it? From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv On Behalf Of Entwistle, Bruce Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 2:16 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless Only in Student Housing? Last year we converted

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless Only in Student Housing?

2018-08-24 Thread Joel Coehoorn
I don't see a need for port-to-pillow anymore, but I believe it is still helpful to have wired jacks in common spaces for the building and common rooms within suites. Part of the belief stems from the idea there is a difference between what students' natural behavior would be and what it will be

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless Only in Student Housing?

2018-08-24 Thread Enfield, Chuck
I don’t want to hijack Dan’s thread, but I wouldn’t mind adding to it if he doesn’t mind. I know from previous threads that lots of schools have gone Wi-Fi-only, and issues are minimal. But, as an institution that has both wired and wireless enabled throughout the residence halls, about 15%

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless Only in Student Housing?

2018-08-24 Thread Joseph Bernard
We just opened a building with a wallplate AP in every room. Any wired connections needed are plugged into the jacks on the bottom of the wallplate. Things seem okay so far but we haven’t made it to our worst day which is the first Tuesday of semester which causes the most stress on our

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless Only in Student Housing?

2018-08-24 Thread Linchuan Yang
Dear Daniel We have done this to most of our residence buildings for more than three years. Before, we gave them wired connection and IP phones. We found that many jacks in the rooms were broken, and we spent a lot to do the maintenance on the jacks and phones. Three years ago, we concluded

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless Only in Student Housing?

2018-08-24 Thread Erik Stagg
+1 for the hospitality APs. That’s what we use in all of our new dorm installs. 95% of our dorm access is on our wireless network with a few gaming systems using the wired ports on the APs. -Erik Erik W Stagg Manager – Networking and Infrastructure Northern Kentucky University O: 859-572-1374

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless Only in Student Housing?

2018-08-24 Thread Entwistle, Bruce
Last year we converted our first residence hall to wireless only and there were minimal challenges. You could consider installing the small hospitality APs in the rooms and then there would be wired ports available if necessary. Bruce Entwistle Network Manager University of Redlands From:

Wireless Only in Student Housing?

2018-08-24 Thread Daniel Wurst
Hi All, We are looking into building a new student housing building and are considering going Wifi only for network connectivity. We were wondering if anyone else has gone the route of only allowing network connectivity via wireless. If so, can you share your experience, lessons learned, and

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco - Field Notice - 70253 - Wireless Client Fails to Associate: AID

2018-08-24 Thread Jeffrey D. Sessler
It’s important to separate marketing from the reality of how the technology functions. * Band Steering – Cisco didn’t say it was impossible, what they said was that the client side of the equation was so fraught with issues that the feature would lead to greater problems, especially in

RE: Site Survey Tool (laptop/tablet/2-in-1)

2018-08-24 Thread Thomas Carter
We have something similar, only dual boot Windows 10 / Ubuntu (for promiscuous mode packet capture). While currently on a standard laptop, I really like the usability and flexibility of the latest 2-in-1s as compared to something like a Surface Pro (we have a few of those in users' hands) or a

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco - Field Notice - 70253 - Wireless Client Fails to Associate: AID Error

2018-08-24 Thread Lee H Badman
I can't say I love ClearPass (we use it) and the recent relicensing felt very much like yet another revenue grab. Not sure the grass is totally greener anywhere. If Mist would tone down the buzzword-driven marketing and start highlighting real-world value proposition and case studies of very

RE: Cisco - Field Notice - 70253 - Wireless Client Fails to Associate: AID Error

2018-08-24 Thread Osborne, Bruce W (Network Operations)
Actually Aruba has moved from the "HA Pair" structure to a Cluster structure in AOS 8. We have 8 controllers in our Campus Cluster. Actually, the AP, SSID, & client can all be on different controllers within the cluster, each with a designated backup controller. Since our cluster is split

RE: Cisco - Field Notice - 70253 - Wireless Client Fails to Associate: AID

2018-08-24 Thread Osborne, Bruce W (Network Operations)
Aruba introduced client band steering before we became their customer in 2008. At that time Cisco said band steering was not possible. Aruba has had spectrum monitoring since before Cisco’s CleanAir technology. We know who is following whom. That is why we made our choice. Aruba has had ap

RE: Cisco - Field Notice - 70253 - Wireless Client Fails to Associate: AID Error

2018-08-24 Thread Osborne, Bruce W (Network Operations)
Aruba has its problems too, but they try to minimize them. Do not forget that, for many years, Aruba was a wireless-only company. Their wireless needed to work for them to remain profitable. For Cisco, wireless is just another product line in a large portfolio. The above comments are my

RE: Cisco - Field Notice - 70253 - Wireless Client Fails to Associate: AID Error

2018-08-24 Thread Osborne, Bruce W (Network Operations)
We are running the conservative release in the 8.2 series. We are currently planning on moving to 8.3 during Christmas break. Hopefully it will have reached the stability for a conservative release by then. Bruce Osborne Senior Network Engineer Network Operations - Wireless    (434) 592-4229  

RE: Cisco - Field Notice - 70253 - Wireless Client Fails to Associate: AID Error

2018-08-24 Thread Osborne, Bruce W (Network Operations)
18 months ago I experienced a version upgrade on the active system at a conference. In our initial failover testing here, we had a client set up doing a continuous ping to a target. We took our network from4 controllers down to 1. The AP & client roamed seamlessly such that not one ping was