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All,
Little kick at the discussion from a while ago:
There is a
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> BR, Kees
>
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> Hi Chris,
>
> “you coul
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All,
Little kick at the discussion from a while ago:
There is a YouTube vide
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Hi Chris,
“you could in theory double the airtime available”
I would be interested in your actual experience with this. Now that a few
vendors have taken this approach and others stay away from this
.EDU
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"What happens when users choose the 2.4 enabled SSID even though they support
5ghz? They may select it based off signal strength indicators on their client,
even though they will get a
have some management with Visio TVs that requires 802.11b rates
>>>> in order to associate. That presents a challenge too.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bruce Osborne
>>>> Wireless Engineer
>>>> IT
.11b rates
>>>> in order to associate. That presents a challenge too.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bruce Osborne
>>>> Wireless Engineer
>>>> IT Network Services - Wireless
>>>>
general directions, but you're responsible for
>>>> the actual configuration.
>>>>
>>>> -
>>>>
>>>> Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu| For every problem, there is a solution
>>>> that
>>>
gt;>> I think this raises an interesting challenge that I've faced too:
>>>> should we enact a minimum specification requirement (ex. no
>>>> 802.11a/b) for wireless network access?
>>>>
>>>> For student PCs that
irements, they cannot support the machines. Should we do
>>> something similar for wireless?
>>>
>>> Is it fair to potentially reduce the network experience for others
>>> associated to access point to support devices that only utilize
>>> legacy
r experience?
>> >
>> >I am interested if any of you may have already crossed this bridge.
>> >
>> >Thanks,
>> >
>> >Chris Adams, CISSP
>> >
>> >Director, Network & Telecom Services
>> >Division of Information
AM
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This is a good reference to look at devices' capabilities:
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__wikidevi.com_wiki_List-5Fof-5F802.11ac-5FHardware&d
eless sells a ton of these. The
> >Moto E, which is the base model, also doesn't speak 5GHz. Several folks in
> >our building also have that phone."
> >
> >Don't know whether to blame Motorola or folks that go for the cheapest stuff
> >possible.
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Of Osborne, Bruce W
>(Network Services)
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>We have some management with Visio TVs that requires 802.11b rates in order
>to associate. That presents a ch
pril 12, 2016 7:41 PM
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Bit of both, we see plenty of new devices 2.4 only. It's always the cheap
stuff. Apple is pretty popular though so at least on that side we know we get
5ghz
The Edimax N
e Moto G is a pretty common phone - I know of
>> several folks (in our department) that have such including myself and a
>> coworker who just bought a brand new one Friday. Republic Wireless sells a
>> ton of these. The Moto E, which is the base model, also doesn't speak
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I'm un
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> On 04/07/2016 09:24 AM, Hector J Rios wrote:
>>
>> I guess this brings up another good question, and that is, what is
>> the percentage
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On 04/07/2016 09:24 AM, Hector J Rios wrote:
I guess this brings up another good question, and that is, what is the
percentage of 5GHz vs 2.4GHz you all see in your institutions? For us
is still 50-50. And it’s been like that for a while. I still see new
laptops that only come with 2.4GHz adapte
From the Cisco slides I’ve seen on the feature, when in dual 5 Ghz mode, one
radio acts as the high-performance micro cell for the 802.11ac clients and the
other radio acts as a macro cell with the legacy clients joining it.
As for the use of 40 GHz channels, at least in my buildings, the propa
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*--Jeremy L. Gibbs*
Sr. Network Engineer
Utica College IITS
On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 8:17 AM, Danny Eaton wrote:
> Just as a help, here's our client distribution - none on B, but we do have
> a few G, and lots of 2.4 N. We’ve disabled the lower 2.4G data rates
> (compl
Just as a help, here's our client distribution - none on B, but we do have a
few G, and lots of 2.4 N. We’ve disabled the lower 2.4G data rates (completely
disabled 1 Mbps, 2 Mbps, and 5.5, 6 and 9 as supported).
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On 07/04/16 19:44, Kees Pronk wrote:
> “you could in theory double the airtime available”
>
> I would be interested in your actual experience with this. Now that a
> few vendors have taken this approach and others stay away from this.
>
> Arguments in favor of 5/5 you will find these abundant o
's eye-opening. I've got some thinking to do.
> >
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> >[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Hunter Fuller
> >Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2016 4:55 PM
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On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 7:31 AM, Chris Adams (IT)
wrote:
> PS: I’m sure some of the Xirrus guys are chuckling at this
> conversation as Xirrus has been well known for having large SDR arrays
> for many
On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 7:31 AM, Chris Adams (IT) wrote:
> PS: I’m sure some of the Xirrus guys are chuckling at this conversation as
> Xirrus has been well known for having large SDR arrays for many years now J
I'm sure. :) One of our highest density areas has a couple of 8-radio
Xirrus units to
ehalf Of Matthew Newton
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On Thu, Apr 07, 2016 at 01:27:04PM +, Joseph M. Karam wrote:
> We offer 2.4 a
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Chris,
Not ‘chuckling’, just smiling as we are actually glad to see other
vendors supporting this capability. Today
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That's a good point Phillipe. Had to recently shop for a laptop for a relative
to use at school. Had to open up Device Manager to find the wir
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Chris,
The Wi-Fi deployment is definitely a big part of the equation but so it the
“sticky client”. I’m writing this email just above a nice d
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> My ears have been burning
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My ears have been
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My ears have been burning…
I understand Hector's comment about the spirit of eduroam, but like Ryan I have
also be tempted in the past to only support 5 GHz in certain a
.EDU>>
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My ears have been burning…
I understand Hector's comment about the spirit of eduroam, but like Ryan I have
also be tempted in the past to only support 5 GHz in certain areas
because 2.4 GHz was becoming too much of a
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My ears have been burning…
I understand Hector's comment about the spirit of eduroam, but li
y
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As I am approaching the problem, I think there is a middle ground… The middle
ground is you elevate one SSID to 5 Gig only, and have a secondary SSID
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I guess this brings up another good question, and that is, what is the
percentage of 5GHz vs 2.4GHz you all se
uroam. My 2 cents.
Hector Rios
Louisiana State University
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On Thu, Apr 07, 2016 at 01:27:04PM +, Josep
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On Thu, Apr 07, 2016 at 01:27:04PM +, Joseph M. Karam wrote:
> We of
On Thu, Apr 07, 2016 at 01:27:04PM +, Joseph M. Karam wrote:
> We offer 2.4 and 5 GHz service. When we have conflicts, we work
> with departments to give them a channel in the 2.4 GHz space,
> then we take that channel out of our central infrastructure.
> So, for example we gave engineering ch
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We are seeing the same, about 50
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Chris,
Not ‘chuckling’, just smiling as we are actually glad to see other
vendors supporting
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Turning off 2.4 on a select SSID?
I guess this brings up another good question, and that is, what is the
percentage of 5GHz vs 2.4GHz you all see in your institutions? For us is still
50-50. And it’s been like that for a while. I still see new laptops that only
come with
] *On Behalf Of *Perry Correll
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 07, 2016 7:49 AM
>
> *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Turning off 2.4 on a select SSID?
>
>
>
> Chris,
>
>
>
> Not ‘chuckling’, just smiling as we are actually glad to see other
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2016 9:24 AM
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I guess this brings up another good question, and that is, what is the
percentage of 5GHz vs 2.4GHz you all see in your institutions? For us is still
50-50
Correll
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Chris,
Not ‘chuckling’, just smiling as we are actually glad to see other vendors
supporting this capability. Today we are seeing 70, 80, 90, even up to 95
@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Chris Adams (IT)
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Kees,
I think your skepticism is well founded. We have many locations with multiple
5ghz radios in the
rgia
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Hi Chris,
Verzonden: donderdag 7 april 2016 03:11
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Onderwerp: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Turning off 2.4 on a select SSID?
Thanks Chris!
Larry Dougher
Chief Information Officer
Information Technology Services<http://its.wsesu.net>
Windsor Southeast Supervisory Union<http://
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> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Larry Dougher
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 6, 2016 2:28 PM
>
> *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
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>
>
>
> Chris,
>
>
>
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Chris,
I have a question about the AP250, but may be a question about MU-MIMO more
generally. So, all things being e
ehalf Of *Jeremy Gibbs
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>
>
>
> I find the opposite to be true with band steering. If we turn it off, the
> majority of our cli
serv
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jeremy Gibbs
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Turning off 2.4 on a select SSID?
I find the opposite to be true with band steering. If we turn it off, the
majority of our cli
I find the opposite to be true with band steering. If we turn it off, the
majority of our clients won't connect to 5 Ghz, even if they are right
above an AP. This causes lots of disconnect problems and congestion in the
2.4 Ghz spectrum. Turning band steering on fixes the problem for us.
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