Re: [WiX-users] Install Localisation

2008-12-02 Thread Bob Arnson
Rob Mensching wrote: > For the guys in Microsoft that are big enough to have a gazillion languages, > I've seen the push towards multiple MSI packages. > MUI/language pack MSI + language-neutral executable MSI. It also simplifies patching, since you're targeting one product for your code cha

Re: [WiX-users] Install Localisation

2008-12-02 Thread Rob Mensching
r XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Install Localisation I would be interested in finding out how anyone else does this. Most Microsoft applications seem to be shipped on one language per install, I would prefer not to do that as it seems unnecessary and the sales guys hate the idea of creating lo

Re: [WiX-users] Install Localisation

2008-12-02 Thread Neil Sleightholm
Message- From: Rob Mensching [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 December 2008 17:01 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Install Localisation Torch has been written by guys that think mostly in terms of patching. Changing a ProductCode in a patch would

Re: [WiX-users] Install Localisation

2008-12-02 Thread Rob Mensching
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 23:13 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Install Localisation I read that and at first it made sense but as it doesn't put it in context I chose to ignore it! I can see it makes sense if the French install should r

Re: [WiX-users] Install Localisation

2008-12-02 Thread Bob Arnson
Neil Sleightholm wrote: > I read that and at first it made sense but as it doesn't put it in > context I chose to ignore it! A perilous choice with MSI. I understand and don't disagree with your choice. -- sig://boB http://joyofsetup.com/

Re: [WiX-users] Install Localisation

2008-12-01 Thread Neil Sleightholm
n for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Install Localisation Neil Sleightholm wrote: > 2. Every time I run light it will create a new product code but I don't > want that, I want one product code and simply install with a different > UI language. From what I have

Re: [WiX-users] Install Localisation

2008-12-01 Thread Neil Sleightholm
n for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Install Localisation I guess it is laziness on my part :-) I am just going to have to write some code. I just strikes me as a common requirement to generate a transform without a different ProductCode - I guess that makes it a feature re

Re: [WiX-users] Install Localisation

2008-12-01 Thread Bob Arnson
Neil Sleightholm wrote: > 2. Every time I run light it will create a new product code but I don't > want that, I want one product code and simply install with a different > UI language. From what I have read this seems to be a valid approach. > The MSI SDK disagrees. In fact, it's unusually una

Re: [WiX-users] Install Localisation

2008-12-01 Thread Rob Mensching
Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Install Localisation I guess it is laziness on my part :-) I am just going to have to write some code. I just strikes me as a common requirement to generate a transform without a different ProductCode - I guess that makes it a feature request. May be it

Re: [WiX-users] Install Localisation

2008-12-01 Thread Neil Sleightholm
that package code issue and see what I can find. Neil -Original Message- From: Rob Mensching [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 December 2008 22:08 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Install Localisation 2. The PackageCode should be regene

Re: [WiX-users] Install Localisation

2008-12-01 Thread Rob Mensching
onday, December 01, 2008 13:59 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Install Localisation 2. Is there any scope for making this optional or replacing Product/@Id="*" on the first pass of light? The PackageCode is not regenerated on every run of lig

Re: [WiX-users] Install Localisation

2008-12-01 Thread Neil Sleightholm
right thing to localise my install or is it my approach that is floored. Thanks Neil -Original Message- From: Rob Mensching [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 December 2008 20:12 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Install Localisation

Re: [WiX-users] Install Localisation

2008-12-01 Thread Rob Mensching
use of CustomActions. -Original Message- From: Neil Sleightholm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 10:34 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Install Localisation Having worked through a few bugs in light I am now back t

Re: [WiX-users] Install Localisation

2008-12-01 Thread Neil Sleightholm
neral discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Install Localisation 0. *Every* MSI should have a different PackageCode. Even two builds of the same MSI. 1. You *can* have different ProductCodes for all of your languages. Depends on what your SxS story is. 2. The

Re: [WiX-users] Install Localisation

2008-11-18 Thread Neil Sleightholm
I'll update the bug report to include this. Neil -Original Message- From: Rob Mensching [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 November 2008 16:02 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Install Localisation That's the bug. I bet

Re: [WiX-users] Install Localisation

2008-11-18 Thread Rob Mensching
ndows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Install Localisation The problem is that if I don't supply -loc then light fails to resolve any of my localisation variables and generates these errors: Product.wxs(15) : error LGHT0102 : The localization variable !(loc.ProductLanguage)

Re: [WiX-users] Install Localisation

2008-11-17 Thread Neil Sleightholm
ssage- From: Rob Mensching [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 November 2008 23:19 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Install Localisation I'm sorry if I asked this already but what happens if you don't specify a -loc file on the firs

Re: [WiX-users] Install Localisation

2008-11-17 Thread Rob Mensching
he .wixout. Subsequent bindings can only fill in remaining variables. -Original Message- From: Neil Sleightholm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 12:16 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Install Localisation I seems

Re: [WiX-users] Install Localisation

2008-11-17 Thread Neil Sleightholm
r XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Install Localisation Neil Sleightholm wrote: > I have tried -bf but it doesn't solve the problem, the localisation is > applied to the wixout when you first create it and no further > localisation is applied by subsequent re-light commands. >

Re: [WiX-users] Install Localisation

2008-11-15 Thread Bob Arnson
Neil Sleightholm wrote: > I have tried -bf but it doesn't solve the problem, the localisation is > applied to the wixout when you first create it and no further > localisation is applied by subsequent re-light commands. > Sorry, I meant to say that if you didn't use -bf, the binding process wo

Re: [WiX-users] Install Localisation

2008-11-13 Thread Neil Sleightholm
ted. Neil -Original Message- From: Bob Arnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 November 2008 18:52 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Install Localisation Neil Sleightholm wrote: > No, should I? > If you use -xo without -bf, you should be

Re: [WiX-users] Install Localisation

2008-11-12 Thread Bob Arnson
Neil Sleightholm wrote: > No, should I? > If you use -xo without -bf, you should be able to build a .wixout without needing the files. Then re-light to build the .msi with localization. -- sig://boB http://joyofsetup.com/ --

Re: [WiX-users] Install Localisation

2008-11-12 Thread Neil Sleightholm
No, should I? Neil Neil Sleightholm X2 Systems Limited [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: Bob Arnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 12/11/2008 05:53 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX

Re: [WiX-users] Install Localisation

2008-11-11 Thread Bob Arnson
Neil Sleightholm wrote: > I am not sure how I could do that, for my own code it won't link if the files > are missing and for the built-in localisation I am not sure how I can exclude > it. > Are you using the -bf switch to build your .wixout? -- sig://boB http://joyofsetup.com/

Re: [WiX-users] Install Localisation

2008-11-10 Thread Neil Sleightholm
_ From: Rob Mensching [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sun 09/11/2008 22:47 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Install Localisation Does the .wixout have the localization if you do not provide the .wxl files? -Original Message- From: Neil

Re: [WiX-users] Install Localisation

2008-11-09 Thread Rob Mensching
Does the .wixout have the localization if you do not provide the .wxl files? -Original Message- From: Neil Sleightholm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 14:37 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Install Localisation I

Re: [WiX-users] Install Localisation

2008-11-09 Thread Neil Sleightholm
file. Is this what you would expect? Neil -Original Message- From: Rob Mensching [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 November 2008 22:31 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Install Localisation 0. *Every* MSI should have a different

Re: [WiX-users] Install Localisation

2008-11-06 Thread Neil Sleightholm
Original Message- From: Rob Mensching [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 November 2008 22:31 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Install Localisation 0. *Every* MSI should have a different PackageCode. Even two builds of the same MSI. 1. You

Re: [WiX-users] Install Localisation

2008-11-06 Thread Rob Mensching
IL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 14:19 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: [WiX-users] Install Localisation I am looking for advise in localising installs. I need to deploy an application in several languages and I thought I had the solution, what

[WiX-users] Install Localisation

2008-11-06 Thread Neil Sleightholm
I am looking for advise in localising installs. I need to deploy an application in several languages and I thought I had the solution, what I did was this: 1. Set the CAB file as not embedded as the files are the same for all languages. 2. Run candle for wxs files 3. Run l