Re: [wpkops] Browser behaviour draft

2014-07-24 Thread Ben Wilson
We could add a clear statement in the document that says, "this document describes the state of the Web PKI circa 2013" or something like that. -Original Message- From: wpkops [mailto:wpkops-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Tim Moses Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 6:42 AM To: Gervase Markham

Re: [wpkops] Preliminary Next Version of Browser Behavior Draft

2014-07-07 Thread Ben Wilson
ital signature verification depending on the TLS cipher suite selected. -Rick From: wpkops [mailto:wpkops-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Ben Wilson Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 2:13 PM To: wpkops@ietf.org Subject: Re: [wpkops] Preliminary Next Version of Browser Behavior Draft Here

Re: [wpkops] Preliminary Next Version of Browser Behavior Draft

2014-06-10 Thread Ben Wilson
ent browser behavior. Section 3.5 Header is not in bold. Section 4.3 Shouldn't say "browsers should" ;^) -Rick From: wpkops [mailto:wpkops-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Ben Wilson Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 2:13 PM To: wpkops@ietf.org Subject: Re: [wpkops] Preliminary Next

Re: [wpkops] Preliminary Next Version of Browser Behavior Draft

2014-06-10 Thread Ben Wilson
. -Mensaje original- De: Ben Wilson [mailto:b...@digicert.com] Enviado el: lunes, 09 de junio de 2014 18:24 Para: Barreira Iglesias, Iñigo; bruce.mor...@entrust.com CC: wpkops@ietf.org; g...@mozilla.org; tim.mo...@entrust.com Asunto: RE: [wpkops] Preliminary Next Version of Browser Behavior Dr

Re: [wpkops] Preliminary Next Version of Browser Behavior Draft

2014-06-09 Thread Ben Wilson
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Re: [wpkops] Preliminary Next Version of Browser Behavior Draft

2014-06-06 Thread Ben Wilson
Iñigo and Bruce, Perhaps we should revise the Trust Model document to describe how browser, root store, and cryptolibrary are related? In addressing Gerv's comments, I am thinking of starting with the following "This document reviews the current processing behaviors of cryptolibraries, and the bro

Re: [wpkops] Preliminary Next Version of Browser Behavior Draft

2014-06-05 Thread Ben Wilson
Thanks. I'll take a look and create another draft. -Original Message- From: wpkops [mailto:wpkops-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Tim Moses Sent: Thursday, June 5, 2014 8:19 AM To: Gervase Markham Cc: wpkops@ietf.org; b...@digicert.com Subject: Re: [wpkops] Preliminary Next Version of Brow

[wpkops] NIST 800-52

2014-05-13 Thread Ben Wilson
I think this is what was mentioned recently - http://dx.doi.org/10.6028/NIST.SP.800-52r1 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ wpkops mailing list wpkops@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkops

[wpkops] Taxonomy of Browser Behaviors - "Hard Fail", "Soft Fail" and "Reload Request"

2014-04-29 Thread Ben Wilson
In working on the next version of the Certificate Processing document, I have come across two different uses of "hard fail." I am also concerned that use of the phrase, "soft fail," might encounter similar problems. Also I've seen "Retry" or "Reload" messages, which are hard fail, but with an o

[wpkops] New I-D on Browser Processing

2013-10-18 Thread Ben Wilson
Here is the first draft of the internet draft on browser processing (not including revocation processing) - http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-wilson-wpkops-browser-processing/ smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ wpkops ma

Re: [wpkops] FW: New Version Notification for draft-barreira-trustmodel-00.txt

2013-10-15 Thread Ben Wilson
2013 18:55, Ben Wilson wrote: > I think the line is determined by balancing factors such as tone, > scope, complexity, detail, etc. Since this is the first step, I think > that section > 3.3.1 strikes a proper balance on introducing this concept, at this > point in the project. I

Re: [wpkops] FW: New Version Notification for draft-barreira-trustmodel-00.txt

2013-10-15 Thread Ben Wilson
er manufacturer responsible rather than the CA? Should we mention this in the spec? Where do you draw the line? regards David On 15/10/2013 18:06, Ben Wilson wrote: > Concerning " 3.3.1. Subscriber uses agent", David Chadwick wrote, "5. > What is the relevance of section 3.3.1?

Re: [wpkops] FW: New Version Notification for draft-barreira-trustmodel-00.txt

2013-10-15 Thread Ben Wilson
Concerning " 3.3.1. Subscriber uses agent", David Chadwick wrote, "5. What is the relevance of section 3.3.1? If a third party is subcontracted to a party to do work on its behalf, then the party is ultimately responsible for this and there is no need to mention it." David, I think it is helpful

[wpkops] ID:Browser processing of server certificates:Definitions

2013-10-03 Thread Ben Wilson
Some of us are working on an Internet Draft titled, "Browser processing of server certificates". Here are some draft definitions for terms that I think we'll be using: Bypassable error - A behavior in which the browser detects an abnormal condition and asks the user whether to proceed with (

Re: [wpkops] ID on Trust model

2013-10-03 Thread Ben Wilson
l On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Ben Wilson wrote: > Definition of Root store – I think it should say, “a set of root > certificates embedded in a certificate-using client that anchors the > certificate chains of end entity certificates.” (This definition cold > go on to explain

[wpkops] ID on Trust model

2013-10-03 Thread Ben Wilson
Bruce, Iñigo and Karen, I recently reviewed your internet draft on Trust Model. I agree with some who have commented about the section on security considerations -- it seems it may open a Pandora’s Box of issues, considerations, etc. to be considered and discussed—books could be written if they

Re: [wpkops] Agenda Items for IETF 87

2013-06-03 Thread Ben Wilson
Thanks, Iñigo. I will not be able to attend the IETF 87 meeting in person, but I have an updated outline of the user agent behaviors that I have briefly summarized below. The purpose of the following summary is to explain in chronologic fashion the processing of an SSL certificate. The key re

[wpkops] Implementations of OCSP Stapling

2013-04-26 Thread Ben Wilson
Excuse the cross-posting, but if you know of anyone currently implementing OCSP stapling, could you send me their contact information off-list? Thanks in advance, Ben ___ wpkops mailing list wpkops@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkops

[wpkops] Spreadsheet on User Agent Behavior

2013-03-14 Thread Ben Wilson
Here is the link to the https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ah4hAObl77LxdF9iQ0M5TUJ1MTlyWmo 4X2RSeklnSkE &usp=sharing I will back up the workbook every day or so. I've shared it "Anyon

Re: [wpkops] Web PKI - Trust Models

2013-03-13 Thread Ben Wilson
Here are some comments. From: wpkops-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:wpkops-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Bruce Morton Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 10:08 AM To: wpkops WG (wpkops@ietf.org) Subject: [wpkops] Web PKI - Trust Models Please find attached a draft of the Web PKI Trust Models documen

Re: [wpkops] wpkops agenda topics

2013-03-06 Thread Ben Wilson
Sharon, Jeremy Rowley and I from DigiCert will be working on documenting the certificate processing behavior of user agents, along with Robin Alden and Phill Hallam-Baker of Comodo. Jeremy will be in attendance and able to participate in the discussion. Thanks, Ben From: wpkops-boun...@ie

Re: [wpkops] Congrats!

2013-02-21 Thread Ben Wilson
Phillip, You and I should coordinate because I think some things that I am working on with Robin overlap. Thanks, Ben -Original Message- From: wpkops-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:wpkops-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Phillip Hallam-Baker Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 11:30 AM To: Ronald

Re: [wpkops] Second draft charter proposal

2012-09-04 Thread Ben Wilson
From: Jon Callas [mailto:joncal...@me.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 1:30 PM To: b...@digicert.com Cc: Phillip Hallam-Baker; Carl Wallace; wpkops@ietf.org Subject: Re: [wpkops] Second draft charter proposal On Sep 4, 2012, at 12:50, Ben Wilson wrote: > While I agree that it needs to be a

Re: [wpkops] Second draft charter proposal

2012-09-04 Thread Ben Wilson
While I agree that it needs to be addressed, I'm not sure I want to enlarge the scope when our success will depend on our ability to handle the workload and address and resolve the issues presented. -Original Message- From: wpkops-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:wpkops-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf

Re: [wpkops] First draft charter proposal

2012-08-22 Thread Ben Wilson
Tim, How do you envision that any previous or future work product of members of the CAB Forum on profile-type documents be integrated into the work of this group? Namely, in Section 9 of the Baseline Requirements there was some language about Issuer and Subject Identifiers, and then Appendices A