Re: [WSG] Making Dreamweaver's Rollover JS accessible

2004-04-18 Thread Nick Lo
What is ecma? Standards organisation: http://www.ecma-international.org/ of which... http://www.ecma-international.org/publications/standards/Ecma-262.htm ...is the standard for ECMAScript scripting language which is essentially javascript standardised. Flash's actionscript is also based on i

Subject: [WSG] Looking for a little peer review(Nelson)

2004-04-18 Thread Doreen Cowan
Nelson:   I took a look at your site - www.stop design. If I click on View -larger or largest, the text from the right side of the page enlarges and spills onto the text in the middle of the page.  It does not look really bad but it does cause a bit of a reading problem.  I don't know if text

Re: [WSG] Making Dreamweaver's Rollover JS accessible

2004-04-18 Thread Jaime Wong
Trying to conform to Priority 2 for that.   I must have done something wrong with the JS in my html. I'll try again.    With Regards Jaime Wong ~~ SODesires Design Team http://www.sodesires.com ~~   ---Original Message---   From: [EMAIL

RE: [WSG] Making Dreamweaver's Rollover JS accessible

2004-04-18 Thread Jaime Wong
Just like  what you see here http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/css/edge/popups/demo2.html :)       With Regards Jaime Wong ~~ SODesires Design Team http://www.sodesires.com ~~   ---Original Message---   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 04/19/0

RE: [WSG] target="_blank" substitute

2004-04-18 Thread Mkear
Well isnt that what makes life's rich tapestry so interesting. We make choices, and we live with whatever flows from that, good or bad. As they say in the home of my favourite kind of music - bluegrass - "you go to your church and i'll go to mine, and we'll walk along together."What counts is wheth

Re: [WSG] target="_blank" substitute

2004-04-18 Thread Chris Stratford
CB2 Wow thanks for that GREAT link! As soon as I read how to pull it all off, I set it up on my site! www.neester.com/tdir Looks the same, works teh same, validates the same... but it validates with target="_blank" thanks a lot! Chris Stratford [EMAIL PROTECTED] Http://www.neester.com Cb

RE: [WSG] target="_blank" substitute

2004-04-18 Thread Andrew Sione Taumoefolau
Hi Michael > Navigating anywhere in Microsoft's site is a nightmare. You go down a maze > of links until its almost impossible to work your way back where you came > from. Is this an argument against the usefulness of the back button (or the navigation metaphor entirely)? If Microsoft chose to o

RE: [WSG] Making Dreamweaver's Rollover JS accessible

2004-04-18 Thread Benjamin
Heya Jaime, define multi rollovers? Benjamin > > > Hi Benjamin > > What is ecma? > > Can what you proposed be used for multi-rollovers? > > I could use Meyer's http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/css/edge/popups/demo2.html > but not sure if it is stable enough for projects. > > > > With Regar

Re: [WSG] Making Dreamweaver's Rollover JS accessible

2004-04-18 Thread Kristof Neirynck
Jaime Wong wrote: Hi Kristof I tried doing that in the html but the JS fails to work. I think I need to change the JS itself but I do not know how to. These are the common image JS DW which I have in my JS file. Odd, I just tried it in my copy of DW and it worked. Are you shure you're not expecting

[WSG] Looking for a little peer review

2004-04-18 Thread Nelson Ford
Nelson, Content of the right sidebar spills over into the center obscuring part of the text. MS internet explorer 6. on Win98SE with text set to "largest". Oops! Just tried it with largest text in IE 6.0 SP1 on Win98SE, I got the same problem, the right sidebar spills into the center. Diff

Re: [WSG] target="_blank" substitute

2004-04-18 Thread Cb2 Web Design
Tim said "Check out XHTML target module:". You can see a tutorial about this, posted a while ago at the Webmates forum: http://excellentsite.org/agroup/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=36&foru m=1 Direct link to the tutorial by Eva Lindqvist: http://www.swedishgoldenretrievers.net/targetmodu

Re: [WSG] target="_blank" substitute

2004-04-18 Thread Tim Lucas
Darian Cabot spoke the following wise words on 18/04/2004 1:29 PM EST: I would like to open a link in a new window. I used to use target="_blank" attribute, but that isn't xhtml strict. Can anyone enlighten me on a xhtml strict method? as I'd like my pages to verify ^^ Check out XHTML target module

RE: [WSG] Making Dreamweaver's Rollover JS accessible

2004-04-18 Thread Jaime Wong
Hi Benjamin   What is ecma?   Can what you proposed be used for multi-rollovers?   I could use Meyer's http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/css/edge/popups/demo2.html but not sure if it is stable enough for projects.       With Regards Jaime Wong ~~ SODesires Design Team http

Re: [WSG] Making Dreamweaver's Rollover JS accessible

2004-04-18 Thread Jaime Wong
   Hi Kristof I tried doing that in the html but the JS fails to work. I think I need to change the JS itself but I do not know how to. These are the common image JS DW which I have in my JS file.   function MM_preloadImages() { //v3.0  var d=document; if(d.images){ if(!d.MM_p) d.MM_p=new Arr

RE: [WSG] Making Dreamweaver's Rollover JS accessible

2004-04-18 Thread Benjamin
The only way I can think of doing it off the top of my head is to use some ecma and css onfocus="this.className="onState" onblur="this.className="offState" .onState{ background: url(yourimageslocation/btn_onState.gif) no-repeat top left } .offState{ background: url(yourimageslocation/btn_offSt

Re: [WSG] Making Dreamweaver's Rollover JS accessible

2004-04-18 Thread Kristof Neirynck
Jaime Wong wrote: Dreamweaver' common set of JS for rollover images are using 'onmouseover' i e. MM_swapImage JS. I wanted to make it more accessible by using 'onfocus=' but I do not know how to work around it so that the JS will work. [insert rant about DW's javascript here] DW puts the onmous

[WSG] Making Dreamweaver's Rollover JS accessible

2004-04-18 Thread Jaime Wong
Dreamweaver' common set of JS for rollover images are using 'onmouseover' i e. MM_swapImage JS. I wanted to make it more accessible by using 'onfocus=' but I do not know how to work around it so that the JS will work. Does anyone know where I could get some resources on this? With Regards Ja

Re: [WSG] target="_blank" substitute

2004-04-18 Thread Patrick Griffiths
> Many clients have been told time after time that "for external links you > should always open a new window" this is going to be a problem for quite > a while, until we can convince people this is not necessary, I believe > that this or Justin's way of dealing with external links is a practical >

RE: [WSG] target="_blank" substitute

2004-04-18 Thread Michael Kear
Patrick - A practical example which will serve to illustrate my point. Go to the Microsoft.com site, and decide whether to install any update. (Choose any of them, they're all just as bad as each other.) In order to install this update, you have to have this other update installed. Oh... do I h

RE: [WSG] target="_blank" substitute

2004-04-18 Thread Darian Cabot
I agree. My intention for opening links in new windows was for a very few links. Only the feature website of the month as a sample to vistors. Oh, and I will be giving the viewer the option to open the link in a new window or in the current window, so no suprises there. Thanks for all the help!

RE: [WSG] target="_blank" substitute

2004-04-18 Thread Jeff - Accessibility 1st
Hi Patrick I think Michael is right, sometimes in life you have to do stuff that isn't perfect. In my example I had a TITLE attribute in the A link saying that it would open a new window - someone with a screen reader would hear that the link would open a new window, if they have disabled JavaScri

Re: [WSG] target="_blank" substitute

2004-04-18 Thread Patrick Griffiths
> You're right, Patrick, but life is a series of compromises. I spend a lot > of effort in getting users to my site, and I don't want to go sending them > away again with a link on my site. If they want to click on a link > external to my site, they get a new window so their existing window sta

RE: [WSG] target="_blank" substitute

2004-04-18 Thread Michael Kear
You're right, Patrick, but life is a series of compromises. I spend a lot of effort in getting users to my site, and I don't want to go sending them away again with a link on my site. If they want to click on a link external to my site, they get a new window so their existing window stays in my

Re: [WSG] target="_blank" substitute

2004-04-18 Thread Martin Stender
I'm using that one too. But I had another script that needed to be run when the page loaded, and then the scripts collided, so to speak. So I had to call the functions from instead, which works fine. Martin On 18/4-2004, at 5.53, Justin French wrote: On 18/04/2004, at 1:29 PM, Darian Cabot

Re: [WSG] target="_blank" substitute

2004-04-18 Thread Patrick Griffiths
> This is both an accessible and valid method: Valid yes, but accessible? I click on a link. I look at the page. I try to click on the back button. "What? Why doesn't this work? Oh. Because it's opened in a new window". Close window. Return to the site (and page) I want to be on. This whole malark