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Sergio Villarreal has written 'Tables Vs. CSS - A Fight to the Death', a SitePoint article where he does the same design in tables and then in css, and then comes to some conclusions about which was better. http://www.sitepoint.com/article/tables-vs-css Interesting read. Lea -- Lea de Groot Ely

Re: [WSG] Making Flash Codes validate

Check out this article ... http://www.alistapart.com/articles/flashsatay Rob Jaime W wrote: Hello everyone   I am facing some validation issues (XHTML 1.0 Transitional) with the following flash object codes:   "clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-44455354"  codebase=

RE: [WSG]

Andy's article has been discussed previously on the list and he's also a member of this list. Do a search through the Discussion List Archive for the thread "tables are bad because" Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [WSG] "An Objective Look at

[WSG] Proper usage of Blockquote and Cite

G'day I'm converting one of my clients' sites to rid it of tables and make it xhtml1 strict. The site has a testimonials page, which quotes text from many customers and adds their initials and occupation. I believe I should be using blockquote for this, and perhaps cite (the element, not the att

[WSG] "An Objective Look at Table Based vs. CSS Based Design"

"An Objective Look at Table Based vs. CSS Based Design" http://www.andybudd.com/archives/2004/05/an_objective_look_at_table_based_vs_css_based_design/index.php IMHO while the article has some good points, trying to claim that it is an "objective" article is going to far. I'd say it is subjective i

[WSG] Out of Office AutoReply: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org

I will be out of the office on Friday, 5-28-04 and Monday, 5-31-04. If you need assistance please contact another Business Career Services team member at 217.333.2840. Thank you, Lezli Cline * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgro

Re: [WSG] Fwd: remove widows/orphans?

Zulema, First and foremost, I am a designer, so please take this advice from someone who understands really beautiful typography, but also understands when the web won't comply. This is definitely a case of "don't bother". For starters, you're typesetting those orphans and widows on YOUR scree

RE: [WSG] new to the list

Title: Message That’s correct Kat, in XHTML shorthand attributes have been depreciated.   So you must use selected=”selected”   Cheers Jeff Lowder Web: www.acessibility1st.com.au       -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kat R

Re: [WSG] new to the list

Title: Message Thank you Kat :) I feel like an idiot LOL I knew that! Just couldn't SEE it!   Oh - and I apologize to you all - I forgot to turn off the 'request read receipt' thingy before I sent my request - it's off now ~   Marie  ~aka~  Vanille About Certified XHTML Developer - Level 1Va

Re: [WSG] new to the list

Thank you Miles :) I did learn about that - LOL All fixed now! Marie ~aka~ Vanille About Certified XHTML Developer - Level 1 Vanille's Place - http://marie-str.com Technicolour Rainbow - http://techrain.ca the FlipSide - http://the-flipside.com Because you've declared XHTML doctype for your

Re: [WSG] new to the list

Thank you! Sometimes the most obvious answer is the hardest to see LOL I did learn that! Marie ~aka~ Vanille About Certified XHTML Developer - Level 1 Vanille's Place - http://marie-str.com Technicolour Rainbow - http://techrain.ca the FlipSide - http://the-flipside.com > Hi Marie, > > If you

RE: [WSG] new to the list

Title: Message You need to use selected="selected">Select a page   -Kat -Original Message- This is the line of code I'm referring to - Select a page   and this is the message I get - The attribute "selected" does not have a value.

RE: [WSG] new to the list

Because you've declared XHTML doctype for your page (see first line of your code) you need to use parameter="value" pairs in all cases. So for valid XHTML you'd need Select a page For more XHTML syntax rules see http://www.w3schools.com/xhtml/xhtml_syntax.asp If you don't really need to use XH

RE: [WSG] new to the list

Hi Marie, If you're going to use xhtml, you need to give every attribute a value. Your example would become: Select a page HTH, Kay. -- Kay Smoljak Senior Developer/QC Leader/Search Optimisation PerthWeb Pty Ltd - http://www.perthweb.com.au/ Ph: 08 9226 1366 - Fax: 08 9226 1375 > -Origin

[WSG] new to the list

I'm having an issue with a drop-down menu on my page. When I run my validator it comes up with this message & I'm not sure how to fix it - can someone help please?   The page is here - http://marie-str.com/faeries/tester.html   This is the line of code I'm referring to - Select a page   and

Re: [WSG] Comment and site check

Jaime, Displays beautifully on Safari 1.2 and Mac IE 5.2.3. Except that the Joons Family crest thing disappears in IE 5 -- for some reason the image replacement technique isn't working. Why not use an actual image? -Hugh Todd Could you do a check on your browser for this project of mine? Test si

RE: [WSG] accessible and stylish forms

Nah, I reckon it was this one: http://www.themaninblue.com/writing/perspective/2004/03/24/ P.S. Stop stealing my titles, Andy :p Regards, -- Cameron Adams W: www.themaninblue.com --- Kat Rasmussen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This might be the one: > > http

RE: [WSG] Making Flash Codes validate

Taking this concept a bit further Images can serve as backgrounds what about flash movies?   e.g.   #banner { color: #E5E7B1; font-family: georgia, verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: x-large; font-weight: bold; padding: 15px 15px 5px 15px; background-image: url(http://karmakars.com/we

RE: [WSG] Definition list formatting problem in IE

It would appear not... :) Thanks Patrick, worked a treat! > -Original Message- > From: P.H.Lauke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 8:30 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [WSG] Definition list formatting problem in IE > > > Have you tried *not* floating the

RE: [WSG] Fwd: remove widows/orphans?

As widows/orphans in paragraphs depend heavily on various factors (screen/window and font size, to name a few), there is no reliable way I'm aware of that could help you here, I'm afraid. Unrelated to this issue, but interesting nonetheless in the context of widows/orphans: http://www.w3.org/TR

[WSG] Fwd: remove widows/orphans?

Hi, Is there a way to eliminate widows/orphans in paragraphs? Not when the html page is printed out, but when viewed in a browser. I wanted to know if anyone's run into this and knows how to fix/kludge/hack? (preferably something that would validate of course) If not, I'll keep on adding 's wher

RE: [WSG] accessible and stylish forms

Title: Message This might be the one: http://www.aplus.co.yu/dots/109/ -Original Message- I saw a web site that described how to create fully accessible forms and make them look purty.  Does anyone know where that would be?

Re: [WSG] accessible and stylish forms

Dear Ted, Could you be referring to http://www.stuffandnonsense.co.uk/archives/stylish_accessible_forms.html (my personal blog) In the last few days I have written an update, playing with the CSS to show more clearly what can be possible with the technique... Kind regards Malarkey Ted Drake wrote

[WSG] accessible and stylish forms

I saw a web site that described how to create fully accessible forms and make them look purty.  Does anyone know where that would be?  I am having a heck of a time finding information on creating stylish and completely standards based forms.  The sad thing is, I did this already for a proj

[WSG] I'm stumped on a couple margins, could you send some ideas?

I'm working on some prototypes for a new site.  Our marketing department is working on some design ideas and I want to have some templates ready for their designs.  I put together this one and like it so far.  I'm using son of suckerfish for the dropdowns.   I'm having two issues.  I need i

Re: [WSG] finally a mailing list thats perfect!

You welcome - Original Message - From: t94xr.net.nz webmaster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 04:06:22 +1200 Subject: [WSG] finally a mailing list thats perfect! To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Awesome a mailing list that i wanted. Hi, - im t94xr www.t94xr.net.nz **

[WSG] Comment and site check

Sorry to trouble you guys. Could you do a check on your browser for this project of mine?     Test site:   http://designs.sodesires.com/JoonsFamily/   http://designs.sodesires.com/JoonsFamily/profile/index.html   It would be great if Mac users could give some feedback.   So far

[WSG] finally a mailing list thats perfect!

Awesome a mailing list that i wanted.   Hi, - im t94xr www.t94xr.net.nz

RE: [WSG] Making Flash Codes validate

Thanks everyone. Why can’t macromedia make flash validate grr!   I did this using satay method but not messing with the flash code as the flash is not done by me. Seeing that it is only news and won’t take a long time to load by IE, hmmm I could cheat a lil?   type="application/x-shoc

[WSG] Coming to Oz, looking for Freelance...

Now i know this is not a great use of the WSG, but as most the user do tend to be from Oz, im going to give this a shot. Im looking for a good list of Web design companys that may be willing to give me a little bit of freelance work, im going to be travelling around the whole country so it will o

Re: [WSG] off topic reply to 'A New Community Based Web Site for Review'

Hi Tim, Accessibility is the issue, right? I think authors need to take a stand, and let their visitors know that they are at least making an effort to reach their audience, through whichever technology that may have employed. To the average visitor, it is simple enough to ignore the link, just

RE: [WSG] Making Flash Codes validate

>I quite liked method used on http://www.brightcreative.com/ >It uses conditional comment, but I see no harm in this. hmmm... conditional comments rears it's head. while CC might initially seem attractive, it irks me to use a proprietary kludge to implement an open standard. thoughts, all? Sco

[WSG] Drop-down menus using javaScript to navigate and Accessibility Is sues

We are building an internal web application that will be a portal with multiple application 'modules' from it.  We are building things backwards due to deadlines and a single application module is being developed at the same time as the enterprise L&F and standards, thus many of the standar

RE: [WSG] Making Flash Codes validate

-- Original Message - From: "cc lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Yes, as mentioned by Scott, perhaps one of the main ways for a flash swf to >validate is to use ALA's flash satay method... > >However, the problem i have with this is that it doesn't view on MSIE5.x/Win >- which obvi

RE: [WSG] Making Flash Codes validate

Yes, as mentioned by Scott, perhaps one of the main ways for a flash swf to validate is to use ALA's flash satay method... However, the problem i have with this is that it doesn't view on MSIE5.x/Win - which obviously is still a popular combination. There is apparently a workaround to this, bu

RE: [WSG] help me please

Hi, There are several things you could try in an attempt to fix this. First, validate your XHTML and CSS. Next, try applying the IE Box Model Hack (http://tantek.com/CSS/Examples/boxmodelhack.html). Since you are using padding and a border on some of your divs, this is likely the problem. IE5.5

RE: [WSG] Making Flash Codes validate

Jaime - there's been a lot of discussion about this issue. I'm currently using a method referred to as the 'Flash Satay' method. There are several other methods (sorry - can't locate URLs just not).  All have their ups and downs. ALA discussed satay here: http://www.alistapart.com/articles/f

RE: [WSG] Accessibility related

Yes well unfortunately enough someone from brazil has been copying my site and already reproduced 1. http://kanguruh.com.br/novakang/kanguruh.htm 2. http://www.hotbook.com.br/novahb/HBK.htm I wrote the guy and asked him to take my design off but as is the case you don't hear from them if they had

RE: [WSG] Accessibility related

Thanks Russ! Appreciate that. Regards, Amit Karmakar www.karmakars.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of russ - maxdesign Sent: Thursday, 27 May 2004 4:20 PM To: Web Standards Group Subject: Re: [WSG] Accessibility related This WAI countr

[WSG] help me please

please help me guys this design looks fine with mozilla 1.6 and firefox 0.8 and IE 6 XP but IE 5 and IE 5.5 screw up Anyone can offer help ? http://easyhttp.com/design/xhtml/ style http://easyhttp.com/design/xhtml/css/easyhttp.css * The disc

RE: [WSG] Definition list formatting problem in IE

Have you tried *not* floating the dd? #apiresults dt { width: 8em; float: left; clear: left; margin: 0; padding: 0; font-weight: normal; } #apiresults dd { margin: 0; padding: 0; } Should be enough. Patrick > -Original Message

RE: [WSG] legal requirements for accessability (bringing clients to the table)

I do see where Lachlan is coming from. I have recently updated two websites both of which were almost purely images. Speaking to the designer who originally created one of the sites it became apparent that his background in "for print" design had lead him down theis path. "Otherwise my work could

RE: [WSG] Definition list formatting problem in IE

Update! Added width: 50em; to dd and it stopped it from floating to the right. But now the dd wraps at a fixed width! I want it to go 100% but it won't play ball... Mt. > -Original Message- > From: Miles Tillinger > Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 3:26 PM > To: Web Standards Group (E-ma