Re: [WSG] base css

2005-07-05 Thread Alan Trick
Webmaster wrote: If I know the base font I'll set that and some default colours, then set a % text size in the body {}, to avoid any font-size setting smaller than 1em. Hi Heretic, please explain this. How does setting a % for text-size in body prevent the appearance of smaller than 1em font

Re: [WSG] base css

2005-07-05 Thread heretic
Hi, Hi Heretic, please explain this. How does setting a % for text-size in body prevent the appearance of smaller than 1em font sizes? Is 100% a good starting point for body? Enquiring minds want to know. Basically the idea is this: don't use settings smaller than 1em, for example don't set

[WSG] Complete CSS reset

2005-07-05 Thread Kenny Graham
Has anyone made a stylesheet that resets everything back to the way it would be if styling pure XML? If I have to, I'll go thru html.css and undo everything that it does, but if someone here has already done it, it'll save me a lot of time. I'm going to be teaching some web developers CSS soon

Re: [WSG] Complete CSS reset

2005-07-05 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
On 7/5/05, Kenny Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... I'm going to be teaching some web developers CSS soon and would like to teach it from a complete seperation of structure from presentation standpoint which is hard to do when headings are still big, blockquotes are still indented, etc. ...

[WSG] WaSP to Collaborate with Microsoft to Promote Web Standards

2005-07-05 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Apologies for cross-posting: +++WaSP to Collaborate with Microsoft to Promote Web Standards The Web Standards Project (WaSP) is collaborating with Microsoft to promote Web standards and help developers build standards conformant Web applications. Today we formally announce the WaSP /

Re: [WSG] Broken link

2005-07-05 Thread Zulema
Opie, David wrote: The link to 'WCAG 1.0 Guidelines and Checkpoints for Flash' is dead, can someone pls fix. Thanks David It seems like the entire website is down. The root[1] of the link to the article[2] you mentioned returns an operation timed out warning. [1] http://www.markme.com/

[WSG] Keeping a floated item from overlapping when window resized

2005-07-05 Thread Stevio
I'm sure I've done this before, but I have a div element floated to the right. When the window is resized to be smaller, how can I make sure that at some point the element on the right will not start to overlap the content in the middle, but instead the horizontal scroll bar appears?

Re: [WSG] base css

2005-07-05 Thread James O'Neill
If you set the Body font size to 100.01% you can avoid the scaling issue in IE and some older versions of Opera, and be able to use font sizes less than 1em. Go towards the very bottom of this page - it has an explanation: http://www.communitymx.com/content/article.cfm?cid=FAF76print=true --

Re: [WSG] base css

2005-07-05 Thread Jan Brasna
Couldn't help myself ;) Even if you could, someone else would do it :P Cheers man. -- Jan Brasna aka JohnyB :: www.alphanumeric.cz | www.janbrasna.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See

RE: [WSG] base css

2005-07-05 Thread Mike Foskett
Snippet taken from: http://www.websemantics.co.uk/tutorials/useful_css_snippets/#leveller Where there's a fuller description and a few other snippets. On full width pages: * {margin:0; padding:0} html {height:100%; font-size:100.01%} body { min-height:101%; font:100.01%/130%

[WSG] Markup for complex tables - WAS: [WSG Announce] Accessible data tables - an article and request for further testing

2005-07-05 Thread Martin Heiden
Russ, Roger Hudson and I have been conducting some tests into the difference between id and headers vs scope - to see which of these options was more widely supported in assistive devices. Thanks for this very informative article! I've got a question regarding a similar problem. I've got to

Re: [WSG] Javascript inserted alt text

2005-07-05 Thread Mordechai Peller
Josh Rose wrote: I'm using javascript for an image slideshow, I've written the script and unhappily remembered the alt text. I don't want generic alt text for the whole lot, because the subject changes, so I need to have javascript insert new alt text for each image. As the purpose of alt

Re: [WSG] base css

2005-07-05 Thread Felix Miata
Webmaster wrote: Heretic wrote: If I know the base font I'll set that and some default colours, then set a % text size in the body {}, to avoid any font-size setting smaller than 1em. please explain this. How does setting a % for text-size in body prevent the appearance of smaller

RE: [WSG] Complete CSS reset

2005-07-05 Thread Drake, Ted C.
I've been adding this to the top of my style sheets: html, body, div, h1, h2, h3, h4, ul, li, dl, dt, dd, ol, form {margin: 0; padding: 0;} I like to reset the major elements and then set new margins and paddings on the specific elements when needed. This also gets rid of the repetitive

RE: [WSG] Image Thumnail Advice

2005-07-05 Thread Drake, Ted C.
A thumbnail of a web site page would probably look sharper as a gif instead of a jpeg. You mentioned lossy compression. That is what made me assume you are saving them as jpeg. Try gif or png instead. Otherwise the previous advice sounds great. Ted From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [WSG] HTML 4.01 versus XHTML 1.0

2005-07-05 Thread Ben Curtis
This topic was discussed last month, with good results. http://www.mail-archive.com/wsg%40webstandardsgroup.org/msg17988.html On Jul 1, 2005, at 3:03 PM, Iain wrote: If I were to write a webpage in XHTML of any flavour but also made the effort to serve it with the correct MIME-type to

Re: [WSG] Complete CSS reset

2005-07-05 Thread designer
Hi Ted, What's the difference between what you do and * {margin: 0; padding: 0;}? Serious question - I do the latter, and so I need to know if I'm missing out somewhere. Thanks, Bob McClelland, www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk Drake, Ted C. wrote: I've been adding this to the top of my

RE: [WSG] Complete CSS reset

2005-07-05 Thread Drake, Ted C.
Hi Bob * margin:0; padding:0 removes the margin and padding from EVERYTHING. You then have to declare your margins and padding on every element or there will be none. Personally, I don't want to worry about forgetting the padding on an input or the margin on a checkbox or forgetting to reset the

Re: [WSG] Markup for complex tables - WAS: [WSG Announce] Accessible data tables - an article and request for further testing

2005-07-05 Thread Terrence Wood
yes, keep the functionality to filter the table separate from the table itself... a good example of this can be seen at http://www.dithered.com/css_filters/css_only/index.php For an example of including a form in a table see: http://dev.funkive.com/tests/jstest.html. The first column is

Re: [WSG] Complete CSS reset

2005-07-05 Thread Kenny Graham
Well, this has been educational if nothing else. I figured out how to do it on every non-IE browser (insert sarcastic comment). At first I tried resetting 11 properties on *, but then realized that it was killing the entire concept of inheritance. If I set li to bold, links inside the li

Re: [WSG] Mac IE hack and CSS validation

2005-07-05 Thread Kenny Graham
I'm not sure on the specifics of the hack you're using, but it should validate if you put a space after the *. On 7/5/05, Bruce Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I have a couple of lines in my CSS targeting mac IE with: *htmlbody #wrapper_inner{ width:750px; background-color:#036;

Re: [WSG] Mac IE hack and CSS validation

2005-07-05 Thread Sheri German
On Jul 5, 2005, at 7:23 PM, Bruce Gilbert wrote: I have a couple of lines in my CSS targeting mac IE with: *htmlbody #wrapper_inner{ width:750px; background-color:#036; padding:0; margin:0; } the * causes to CSS to not validate due to a parsing error. Is there any way around this?? Here is

Re: [WSG] Mac IE hack and CSS validation

2005-07-05 Thread Lachlan Hardy
Bruce Gilbert wrote: *htmlbody #wrapper_inner{ width:750px; background-color:#036; padding:0; margin:0; } the * causes to CSS to not validate due to a parsing error. Is there any way around this?? From a future-proofing perspective, I recommend you try Tantek's IE5/Mac Band Pass Filter:

Re: [WSG] Complete CSS reset

2005-07-05 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On 6 Jul 2005, at 5:43 am, Kenny Graham wrote: So then I set those 11 properties on html, and then set the same properties on html * to inherit. Works like a charm... but not on IE. I guess IE doesn't really use a default stylesheet, and if it does, it doesn't cascade properly. If anyone's

[WSG] font-familly: Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif

2005-07-05 Thread Felix Miata
Mike Foskett's response to another thread referred to http://www.websemantics.co.uk/tutorials/useful_css_snippets/#leveller that applies the equivalent of the subject rule to body of a stylesheet designed to get rid of most UA default styles. I'm wondering how many people who use this rule have

Re: [WSG] Mac IE hack and CSS validation

2005-07-05 Thread jrcherry
Quoting Kenny Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm not sure on the specifics of the hack you're using, but it should validate if you put a space after the *. Yes, definitely a space, but if * htmlbody is a chain of descendant selectors (with the '' representing a direct parentchild pair), what

Re: [WSG] Mac IE hack and CSS validation

2005-07-05 Thread Lachlan Hardy
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is a chain of descendant selectors (with the '' representing a direct parentchild pair), what could possibly be the parent of html ? According to spec, nothing. However all versions (AFAIK) of IE, both Win and Mac, render their DOM with an anonymous parent to the