Re: [WSG] Semantic Form - Person's Title

If you a referring to the for/id issue, yes, that is the way. As for the rest of the xhtml depends on what you want to achieve. But looks ok to me. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/g

Re: [WSG] maximum backward compartible to mobile phone (WAP) users? Which XHTML DTD?

Andrey, the mobile phone browsers are a hard nut to crack. I've just researched this for an upcoming project, so let me summarize the field: 1. WML phones understand only WML, either served natively from the webserver (with the proper MIME type) or as converted from (X)HTML by their provider's

Re: [WSG] Validating and validators

Kat wrote: For a good while now I have been using A Real Validator to validate my html offline. That's good. 1. What are your opinions of SGML-parsers vs linters? Do both have their place? Do they have different roles? SGML parsers will tell you exactly what's wrong with your document acco

Re: [WSG] Employee Hierarchy in CSS

Geoff Pack wrote: Hi Sarah, I agree with Jay - it should be a nested list, but I'd avoid floats completely and use absolute positioning to lay it out. I'd also change the nesting to reflect the org structure, not just the level. Assuming the managers report to the GM, then: MD

Re: [WSG] Page-Break-X

on 17/03/06 15:04 R Walker (RMW Web Publishing) said the following: Try "page-break-inside: avoid;" on your divs. Yeah am using that at the moment but it doesn't seem to do anything... Have got .office { border: 1px solid gray; margin: 10px 0; padding: 5px;

Re: [WSG] Page-Break-X

On 17/03/06, Jack Pivac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would like to put as many "office" divs as possible on a page, but > when that div is going to overlap onto a 2nd page I would like the whole > thing to be on the 2nd page, so the div isn't chopped in half. > > Can anyone give me any pointers

[WSG] Validating and validators

Gday, For a good while now I have been using A Real Validator to validate my html offline. Recently, I went back and did a quick search to see what sort of validators are around, and I came across a couple of interesting things: 1. What are your opinions of SGML-parsers vs linters? Do both

RE: [WSG] Employee Hierarchy in CSS

Sarah Peeke wrote: > That looks great. I like the idea of the background image, and I > especially like the mugshot! :) > > > See: > > http://www.virtualgeoff.com/misc/orgChart.html > > with background image: > > http://www.virtualgeoff.com/misc/orgChartB.html > > A couple of thoughts: > > 1

RE: [WSG] Employee Hierarchy in CSS

Hi Geoff That looks great. I like the idea of the background image, and I especially like the mugshot! :) > See: > http://www.virtualgeoff.com/misc/orgChart.html > with background image: > http://www.virtualgeoff.com/misc/orgChartB.html A couple of thoughts: 1. Would it be possible to center th

RE: [WSG] Employee Hierarchy in CSS

Hi Sarah, I agree with Jay - it should be a nested list, but I'd avoid floats completely and use absolute positioning to lay it out. I'd also change the nesting to reflect the org structure, not just the level. Assuming the managers report to the GM, then: MD

Re: [WSG] Employee Hierarchy in CSS

Hi Jay Thanks for your reply. I have achieved a similar result, however what I really need is to be able to center the overall chart, and maintain columns despite gaps. I have included an example of what I am trying to achieve below - this one uses tables. Please note: I have *not* optimised th

[WSG] Holy grail, Nifty corners and IE

Hello list-o-answers, I've done a very dangerous thing! I've created a layout that uses the holy grail[1] method and the nifty corners script[2]This works a treat in FF, etc but goes crazy in IE when the window is resized and sometimes when you hover over the nav links. I'm hoping some of yo

Re: [WSG] .net question

On 3/17/06, kvnmcwebn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > thanks ben, > ok maybe im overeacting a bit, it gets to me when i spend time doing > something with css > then it goes out the window for a table, No, your not overreacting, I understanding that feeling. > > would you just use p's and h's inste

[WSG] Css nowrap behavior

Any one have a solution for duplicating the TD 'nowrap' behavior in CSS???  I find the 'white-space: nowrap;' declaration just doesn't behave the same (probably by design)or perhaps I missed somethingTIA, Mike

Re: [WSG] .net question

thanks ben, ok maybe im overeacting a bit, it gets to me when i spend time doing something with css then it goes out the window for a table, would you just use p's and h's instead of the definition list in the middle column body text? I dont know about using the table for the special offers

Re: [WSG] Employee Hierarchy in CSS

Sarah Peeke (XERT) wrote: Hi Micky, Why do you want to present an empty container? As I already (perhaps badly) explained, I need to show a visual hierarchy of employees. The first row has the MD. The second row the GM, Financial Controller and PA. The third row all other Managers (7 in tota

Re: [WSG] Employee Hierarchy in CSS

Hi Seona Thanks so much for your reply. I think this may just do the trick. I'll get to work on the best option... Many thanks Sarah :) -- XERT Communications email: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> office: +61 2 4782 3104 mobile: 0438 017 416 web development : digital imaging : dv

Re: [WSG] Semantic Form - Person's Title

Sorry Mickey - didn't mean to knit-pick, but what you're saying is that it should look something like this? Title value="Mr" />Mr value="Mrs" />Mrs value="Miss" />Ms Can I get a consensus that this is actually the right way to do it? It feels right, but I'd like the opinion of my

Re: [WSG] .net question

On 3/17/06, kvnmcwebn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you would like to see some examples of what im talking about heres one of > the 1st sites i did with the programmer in question. notice the special > offers section and the reservations form-when he got it there wasnt a table > in "site." > htt

Re: [WSG] Employee Hierarchy in CSS

Hi Sarah, Haven't got time to work this up properly, but what about something like:   MD information in here   GM information in here   Financial Controller information in here   PA information in here   Manager 1 information in here   Manager 2 information in here   ...   Manager 7 Informat

Re: [WSG] Employee Hierarchy in CSS

Hi Micky, > Why do you want to present an empty container? As I already (perhaps badly) explained, I need to show a visual hierarchy of employees. The first row has the MD. The second row the GM, Financial Controller and PA. The third row all other Managers (7 in total). I need to keep the MD (

[WSG] Webstock conference update

Hi for anyone who might be interested in attending Webstock I'm just writing to let you know that earlybird registration closes in just over a week on Tuesday 28 March. Prices will go up after that! We've finalised the programme for the conference a

RE: [WSG] maximum backward compartible to mobile phone (WAP) user s? Which XHTML DTD?

You might also find the Mobile Web Initiative (MWI) at the w3c useful: http://www.w3.org/Mobile/ Lisa >-Original Message- >From: Peter Ottery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Friday, 17 March 2006 9:20 AM >To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org >Subject: Re: [WSG] maximum backward compartible to m

Re: [WSG] maximum backward compartible to mobile phone (WAP) users? Which XHTML DTD?

re -> My question is what is the best practice? What kind of DTD to choose? XHTML Basic? XHTML MP? i can offer a good link! :) http://www.cameronmoll.com/archives/000398.html not sure if it answers all your question. its a 3 part series. the guy (cameron moll) is one of those rockstar designers

Re: [WSG] .net question

thanks geoff, i guess thats i will have to be level headed in my aproach. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **

Re: [WSG] Employee Hierarchy in CSS

Nope, empty divs are not really nice. But empty divs are just the symptom, why do you want to present an empty container? I've had designers do stuff like that, always having 3 boxes for products per row whether there'd be less than 3 products. If your case is something like that, and it is a visu

[WSG] Page-Break-X

Well i've cleaned up my code, and tried using various page-break- rules that i've found from google.. but I can't seem to get it doing what I need... http://temp.delphinus.co.nz/office_details_test.html I would like to put as many "office" divs as possible on a page, but when that div is goin

Re: [WSG] .net question

kvnmcwebn wrote: hello, i just went to a lot of trouble style a form, fieldsets, legends and all. The visual studio programmer whos taking over the next phase says it will be coverted into tables. "we can't control database content all we can do is contain it" that was his argument. wh

Re: [WSG] .net question

adam wrote: Perhaps you should encourage some development of a collection of base controls for your development team? yes i will make a case for this, any suggestions for my arguments??? basically need to sell the project manager who is cool but only concerned with the bottom line. The devel

Re: [WSG] .net question

Rachel Yes the comments have been helpful, basically confirming my suspicions. If you would like to see some examples of what im talking about heres one of the 1st sites i did with the programmer in question. notice the special offers section and the reservations form-when he got it there wasnt

[WSG] Employee Hierarchy in CSS

Hi all I need to display images, names and job titles for employees in a company, and am looking to use Russ's tutorial instead of a table layout. The problem is that there are gaps in the groupings. I have added a new style "thumbnail2"

RE: [WSG] .net question

I do a bit of .NET development for a content management system, and I've found that I've had to develop a number of controls that allow me to generate the page XHTML correctly and semantically. This is, however, a one time cost... once the control has been developed then it's a simple matter to "d

Re: [WSG] .net question

On 3/16/06, kvnmcwebn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hello, > > i just went to a lot of trouble style a form, fieldsets, legends and all. > > The visual studio programmer whos taking over the next phase says it will be > coverted into tables. > > "we can't control database content all we can do is c

RE: [WSG] .net question

Hi Kevin, If you have already created the html and css for the form, then the developer should have no trouble fitting your structure into the .net framework (we do it ever day here!). It sounds like he wants to use the default pre-made controls for it? Which is unfortunately how a lot of .net d

Re: [WSG] WSG Site

Tom Livingston wrote: Listers, This is most likely old news, but I seem to have been having mail problems for over 1/2 a day so did not get wsg list messages for a while... Is the WSG site down? Or is it just me? I noticed that the website was down yesterday. It is now up for me here. I h

Re: [WSG] WSG Site

everything seems fine Bram On Thu Mar 16 19:08 , Tom Livingston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent: > > > >On 3/16/06 1:06 PM, "Prabhath Sirisena" [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Works fine over here. Prolly some mail server issue at your end? > >To be clear, not the list but www.webstandardsgroup.o

Re: [WSG] WSG Site

On 3/16/06 12:57 PM, "Tom Livingston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is the WSG site down? Or is it just me? Thanks. Looks like I'll be calling IT... ;-) -- Tom Livingston Senior Multimedia Artist Media Logic www.mlinc.com ** The disc

Re: [WSG] WSG Site

> To be clear, not the list but www.webstandardsgroup.org is the site I am > referring to. Is it working for you? Yessir, that too. Working fine :-) Prabhath -- http://nidahas.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See h

Re: [WSG] WSG Site

On 3/16/06 1:06 PM, "Prabhath Sirisena" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Works fine over here. Prolly some mail server issue at your end? To be clear, not the list but www.webstandardsgroup.org is the site I am referring to. Is it working for you? -- Tom Livingston Senior Multimedia Artist Medi

Re: [WSG] WSG Site

> Is the WSG site down? Or is it just me? Works fine over here. Prolly some mail server issue at your end? Prabhath -- http://nidahas.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guide

Re: [WSG] .net question

I'm no .net developer however if he uses the WSYWIG to build the webform then yes this is true, however I'm sure that if he uses the editor he will be able to code the elements manually using from the story boards you have no doubt produced. Daz On 16/03/06, kvnmcwebn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

[WSG] WSG Site

Listers, This is most likely old news, but I seem to have been having mail problems for over 1/2 a day so did not get wsg list messages for a while... Is the WSG site down? Or is it just me? -- Tom Livingston Senior Multimedia Artist Media Logic www.mlinc.com ***

[WSG] maximum backward compartible to mobile phone (WAP) users? Which XHTML DTD?

SirsSorry for some kind of lame question :)My client want to reach  maximum audience.  I tell him "standarfs based websites with CSS positioning work well in both kind of UA -  in desktop browsers as well as XHTML enabled mobile phones"  He asked me "but what about phones with WAP only"? My questio

Re: [WSG] .net question

> "we can't control database content all we can do is contain it" > > that was his argument. why cant he contain it with css. > can somebody help me educate him? Not sure how he'll take it, but showing him how the placeholders are already there for his content, through an example, might work. Aft

[WSG] .net question

hello, i just went to a lot of trouble style a form, fieldsets, legends and all. The visual studio programmer whos taking over the next phase says it will be coverted into tables. "we can't control database content all we can do is contain it" that was his argument. why cant he contain it

Re: [WSG] Semantic Form - Person's Title

To Richard Czeiger: That's one of the problems of copy & paste :o) anyway, I thought it was obvious that my code was just an example, maybe should have preceeded it with "pseudo-code", but just in case: never leave name="" in blank and never use a "field" id for a field :op. This discussion is ge

Re: [WSG] Semantic Form - Person's Title

Lachlan Hunt wrote: Of course not in IE, but IE is broken and I consider that acceptable graceful degradation. Since 90% of web users are using this "broken" industry standard browser, I don't think I would share your acceptance of this, especially when it is so easy to make it work. All us

Re: [WSG] Semantic Form - Person's Title

> I know it was required in HTML 4.01, but it looks optional in XHTML. Also supported by the following comment in the DTD: The fieldset element is used to group form fields. Only one legend element should occur in the content and IF present should only be preceded by whitespace. Emphasis m

Re: [WSG] Semantic Form - Person's Title

Hi Lachlan - I think this is correct for HTML4.01 but not for XHTML http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the pipe meant "or" in BNF notation... Also in regards to the IE thing, does it hurt? Does it break validation? Does it provide m

Re: [WSG] Re: Encoding test page

Keryx webb wrote: xml-prologue The XML Prologue is the section of the document that contains the XML Declaration, DOCTYPE and any comments or PIs prior to the root element. The XML Declaration on the other hand, or (more specifically) the encoding declaration within the XML declaration, is the

Re: [WSG] Semantic Form - Person's Title

Ummm, mickey - just spotted the fact that you have multiple identical IDs How does this work? Certainly won't validate.. R :o) - Original Message - From: "Micky Mourelo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 8:08 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] Semantic Form - Person's T

Re: [WSG] Semantic Form - Person's Title

> > > Looks like it's required to me and it's the same in both Strict and > Transitional DTDs. I'm looking at the XHTML 1.0 Strict DTD right now and I see: I know it was required in HTML 4.01, but it looks optional in XHTML. ** The discussion

Re: [WSG] Semantic Form - Person's Title

Lachlan Hunt wrote: Micky Mourelo wrote: The legend is a required child of fieldset. Specwise the DTD seems to say it is optional, Looks like it's required to me... and the validator agrees. I'd like to see your test case that demonstrates that. I forgot that this is one of those und