RE: [WSG] Marking up company logo

2008-05-30 Thread Elizabeth Spiegel
Hi Jason Part of the problem (and I know I'm biased) is that not enough website developers/publishers employ editors, whose bread and butter is information design - how to effectively break up content and provide signposts that help readers navigate their way through mountains of text. An

RE: [WSG] Marking up company logo

2008-05-30 Thread michael.brockington
My take on this, is that IT ALL DEPENDS ! Every site is different. For example: www.calcresult.com does not use a traditional image-based logo, so the arguments that the site logo is 'just a simple image' fails completely. Some sites look a bit like a newspaper. Newspapers themselves vary

Re: [WSG] Marking up company logo

2008-05-30 Thread Bob Schwartz
I think someone the other day hit the nail on the head and it fits with your newspaper analogy. h1 class=mastheadfor the logo/h1 h1Title/h1 My take on this, is that IT ALL DEPENDS ! Every site is different. For example: www.calcresult.com does not use a traditional image-based logo, so

RE: [WSG] Marking up company logo

2008-05-30 Thread Stuart Foulstone
But the Webpage (or the entire site for that matter) is not be about The Sun or The Times - it's about the news. And the news is what the user is looking for. On Fri, May 30, 2008 9:10 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My take on this, is that IT ALL DEPENDS ! Every site is different. For

RE: [WSG] Marking up company logo

2008-05-30 Thread michael.brockington
If you want to look at things from that angle, then we have to make a split between what the user wants - news, information, entertainment, etc. what the commissioner wants, and what the search engines want. All sites on the web arguable fall into one of three categories: Hobby sites, Businesses,

Re: [WSG] innerHTML assignment overflows TD cell in FF

2008-05-30 Thread Svip
I think the entire problem here is the purely thought up structure. With JS, you shouldn't be parsing HTML at all, you should be working at DOM levelling, which means that you need to use createElement/TextNode and appendChild rather than innerHTML. Yes, that means that the PHP must ship the HTML

Re: [WSG] Marking up company logo

2008-05-30 Thread Robert O'Rourke
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you want to look at things from that angle, then we have to make a split between what the user wants - news, information, entertainment, etc. what the commissioner wants, and what the search engines want. All sites on the web arguable fall into one of three

[WSG] first-child selector not always work?

2008-05-30 Thread tee
I have this #best_seller {width 200px;background: #369} #best_seller ul {background: #000} #best_seller ul:first-child {background: #ddd} If I add an adjacent selector #best_seller ul+ul {background: red} div id=best_seller ul./ul /* this one should show background #ddd but it

RE: [WSG] Marking up company logo

2008-05-30 Thread Thierry Koblentz
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stuart Foulstone Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 1:37 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] Marking up company logo But the Webpage (or the entire site for that matter) is not be about The

Re: [WSG] Marking up company logo

2008-05-30 Thread Drew Trusz
I'd say when it comes to news the source is very important, so imho the publisher is key. Imaging this: h1The Times/h1 h2There is water on Mars/h2 or this: h1The Sun/h1 h2There is water on Mars/h2 versus: h1There is water on Mars/h1 -- So following the specs that a heading

Re: [WSG] Marking up company logo

2008-05-30 Thread David Dorward
On 30 May 2008, at 15:50, Thierry Koblentz wrote: I'd say when it comes to news the source is very important, so imho the publisher is key. Important? Yes. More important then the title? No. -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk/ http://blog.dorward.me.uk/

RE: [WSG] Marking up company logo

2008-05-30 Thread Thierry Koblentz
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Dorward Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 8:30 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Marking up company logo On 30 May 2008, at 15:50, Thierry Koblentz wrote: I'd say when it comes to

RE: [WSG] Marking up company logo

2008-05-30 Thread michael.brockington
But does two H1's in a row really agree with the spec? My understanding was that a sub-level could repeat immediately, but H1's were not supposed to. For example: Okay: H1 H2 H2 H3 H1 H2 Bad: H1 H1 Regards, Mike That's a good point and it may explain the ALA's approach: h1The

RE: [WSG] Marking up company logo

2008-05-30 Thread Kroon.Kurtis
I'm not top-posting -Original Message- From: Miscellaneous Subject: Re: [WSG] Marking up company logo ... not be using a p tag [to] hold the logo --Adam ... A p tag is supposed to hold a paragraph of text. If it is only holding an image, then there is no need for the surrounding p

RE: [WSG] Marking up company logo

2008-05-30 Thread Thierry Koblentz
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 9:24 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] Marking up company logo But does two H1's in a row really agree with the spec? My understanding

Re: [WSG] innerHTML assignment overflows TD cell in FF

2008-05-30 Thread Skip Evans
Hey Thierry all, Well, for the heck of it I tried moving the functions that create the left and right blocks up above the code that fills in the center column, and it began then expanding the center column appropriately. Thierry's suggestion of executing that first.Child.data

[WSG] Margin or Float error?

2008-05-30 Thread James Jeffery
Call me dumb but i am really stumped on this. If you look through my source you will see i have added a transparent border to the bottom of #main-navigation and #welcome. Without adding the border the margins added to ul#article-summary-list (top margin) and the #main-navigation (bottom margin)

RE: [WSG] Margin or Float error?

2008-05-30 Thread Kepler Gelotte
Hi James, You may want to try this instead: style type=text/css /* Globals */ html * {margin: 0; padding: 0;} body { /* 62.5% works out to about 10px, which is good for sizing things up. 16px/100 x 62.5 = 10 */

Re: [WSG] Margin or Float error?

2008-05-30 Thread James Jeffery
Thanks for the fix. Is this a known bug then? If so whats the bug called? On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 9:54 PM, Kepler Gelotte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi James, You may want to try this instead: style type=text/css /* Globals */ html * {margin: 0; padding: 0;}

Re: [WSG] AJAX short courses london

2008-05-30 Thread James Jeffery
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[WSG] tools for IE

2008-05-30 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Dev Toolbar type for IE: http://www.debugbar.com/ And a very interesting concept: http://www.my-debugbar.com/wiki/IETester/HomePage -- Regards, Thierry | http://www.TJKDesign.com *** List Guidelines:

Re: [WSG] Marking up company logo

2008-05-30 Thread Adam Martin
img is only an inline element by default. Some simple css fixes that. An inline element does not have to be contained in a block level element at all! img { display: block } Kroon.Kurtis wrote: I'm not top-posting -Original Message- From: Miscellaneous Subject: Re: [WSG]

RE: [WSG] Marking up company logo

2008-05-30 Thread Thierry Koblentz
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Martin Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 3:19 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Marking up company logo img is only an inline element by default. Some simple css fixes that. An

Re: [WSG] Marking up company logo

2008-05-30 Thread Christian Snodgrass
Thierry Koblentz wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Martin Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 3:19 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Marking up company logo img is only an inline element by default. Some simple css

Re: [WSG] first-child selector not always work?

2008-05-30 Thread nate hanna
Both selectors should work in everything but IE6; see this URL: http://kimblim.dk/csstest/ and scroll down a bit. - Nate On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 8:10 AM, tee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have this #best_seller {width 200px;background: #369} #best_seller ul {background: #000} #best_seller

RE: [WSG] tools for IE

2008-05-30 Thread Thierry Koblentz
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Fellows Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 7:50 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] tools for IE Interesting. There is another toolbar [1] and debugger [2] for IE, both of which are

Re: [WSG] Mixing CSS3 and CSS2

2008-05-30 Thread David Dorward
On 30 May 2008, at 23:30, James Jeffery wrote: I want to use CSS3 to create rounded corners but provide CSS2 markup for browsers that don't support it. Whats the best way to go about this? Taking a guess i would say use a CSS3 specific selector, so browsers that understand the selector