As others have suggested, I would go with a UL. However, you may be trying to
get your list to run horizontally.
I most often see the pipe character used as a separator in horizontal lists,
rather than vertical. IIRC, you can make your UL run horizontally by using the
display:inline property. (
May I suggest that we "fix" an "Up" link at the bottom and a series of
"section" tabs and "Skip to ..." at the top of the window - 'position:
fixed' that is.
Should work on all but the smallest windows and in all the latest
browsers, and are easy to reposition or turn off for print.
IE6 will have
> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
If you have a really really long page I think a back to top is ok. It's
unlikely to harm anyone and it's likely to help some users. If the pages
have a table of contents with jump links (probably a good idea) then you
could also make it a "back to table of c
Further to the discussion regarding WCAG 2.0 in government, I am interested
in the reasons why organisations are or are not choosing to adopt WCAG 2.0.
Would anyone care to share their thoughts? Are you adopting it just because
it's new and presumably better? Or have you reviewed it thoroughly and
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 10:14 AM, Robin Shi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Blake,
>
> In my experience, "position: fixed" seems not work with IE.
>
> Robin
Ah. I've never actually had to use it.
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Hi Blake,
In my experience, "position: fixed" seems not work with IE.
Robin
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Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 10:06 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Is it a good practice to have '
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 9:53 AM, Robin Shi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If the page has been scrolled down or up, whatever, the JS will reposition
> the div to make sure it's not outside of the view.
Is it just me, or could you not use position: fixed?
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Thanks Mark for the explanation.
For those users who even don't see [Home] key or [back to top] link, I think
they may need the extremely "good" sign to navigate inside the page.
We will be still using the tabs as navigation, but not on the top. Put the tabs
in a div, then using the JS to positi
I don¹t work in government as such, rather a big university. We (my group
within the Uni, which is one that supports teaching and learning, makes
websites etc) are going with WCAG2 well, the first two levels anyway.
We¹ve been developing a wiki with suggestions for different groups of users
with
Robin Shi wrote:
Oh I did miss the point. You were talking about those small screens and the users really don't like scrolling. In that case, what if put the tabs on the bottom of the page?
No, I think his point was that the tabs would be at the top of the page
and the user would still have t
Oh I did miss the point. You were talking about those small screens and the
users really don't like scrolling. In that case, what if put the tabs on the
bottom of the page?
Robin
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I've recently done usability/accessibility testing with ZoomText (the
screen magnifier) users and many of these users find frequent 'back to
top' links very useful. It saves additional mouse movement and reduces
disorientation.
Jane
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tee wrote:
Wow, how glad I mentioned this. I had no idea there is short-cut for
email. If I, who spends 10 hours a day working on computer don't
know,
chances are, most folks don't know either. So there is really a good
reason to have 'back to top' implemented.
On Sep 29, 2008, at 5:23 P
Hi there - was wondering if there's anyone on the list who works in
government and is considering WCAG2. We're looking at this in NZ, and
I'd be keen to have a chat about your experiences (and offer my own).
How about first considering and then implementing the inclusion of Local
Governm
tee wrote:
> Wow, how glad I mentioned this. I had no idea there is short-cut for
> email. If I, who spends 10 hours a day working on computer don't know,
> chances are, most folks don't know either. So there is really a good
> reason to have 'back to top' implemented.
Dragging the scrollbar up t
On Sep 29, 2008, at 3:26 AM, David Dorward wrote:
tee wrote:
I always have 'back to top' implemented, in my opinion, it's more
important than skip to content/skip navigation because we read from
top to bottom, not bottom to top.
Most browsers have built in ways of returning to the top easily,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I find that this approach is not good in this day and age everyone loves to
have an interactive approach but the accordian approach in my eyes has not
lived up to a good range when it comes to displaying information.
"lived up to a good range"?? What the heck does that
In my personal opinion if you are linking in an article you should abay by
these rules
1 link on 1 image only
1 link as a source
1 link as a forwarder
that is all, any more and it will start affecting you seo as google and
even yahoo will take this as a spam attempt
Aaron Wheeler
On Thu, 25
I find that this approach is not good in this day and age everyone loves to
have an interactive approach but the accordian approach in my eyes has not
lived up to a good range when it comes to displaying information.
Aaron Wheeler
On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 16:56:52 +0800, Henrik Madsen
<[EMAIL PROTECTE
I know WCAG2 is being considered in Western Australia. There is a debate to
wait for it to reach W3C Recommendation status and spend our resources
working on other issues now.
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Hi Anthony,
We're not directly doing anything at this stage. However would love to
get ideas on puhsing the new implementation through and link with a sub
set of internal web page publishing standards that we currently use
across federal government.
William
Andrew Boyd wrote:
On Mon, Sep 29
I think it's a good practice, as long as the button actually says "to the
top" or "back to the top", I think these work (at least for me) but there
are a lot of buttons that have just an arrow pointing up on them and I think
that most internet users don't just understand the purpose of this button.
Robin Shi wrote:
> No, i meant use the tabs as navigation, the tabs will sit on the top of the
> page
>
Yes? My point stands:
> So - the visitor comes, they read to the bottom, then they have to
> scroll to the top and activate the next tab (and repeat). I'm not too
> keen on this idea.
>
On Sep 29, 2008, at 2:58 AM, Prisca schmarsow wrote:
I have had numerous clients who asked for this link on all pages -
even on shorter pages as they feel it is part of a usable page. In
my opinion, trying to predict whether or not people know about
keyboard shortcuts is more difficult th
Joe Chiang wrote:
I have some VERY long pages in the website I maintain. Currently, I
insert 'Back to Top' after every section in the page. Sometimes, I
feel they are disturbing and am not sure if there is any better way
to do it or don't insert them at all.
Unless clients insist on having '
Florian, Gleb, and (of course) Georg -
Great thanks to you all for trying to help me solve this.
The solution Georg proposed made everything work as planned... thanks
Georg!!!
Cole
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Did you also try for the body position:absolute?
Florian
> Hello Florian -
>
> I just tried it, but the "cropped" background image continues to follow the
> height of the wrapper.
>
> Cole
>
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> From: Florian Hamberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, September
tee wrote:
> I always have 'back to top' implemented, in my opinion, it's more
> important than skip to content/skip navigation because we read from
> top to bottom, not bottom to top.
Most browsers have built in ways of returning to the top easily, most do
not have a simply way of jumping to the
Cole Kuryakin wrote:
http://www.koisis.com/.clients/asdem/dev/index.php?cmd=001001
The height of the body image (the hiroshige painting) - rather than
showing in full - seems to be getting "cropped" by the height of my
"wrapper" div.
Add...
body{
padding: 1px 0;
min-height
Robin Shi wrote:
> No, i meant use the tabs as navigation, the tabs will sit on the top of the
> page
>
Yes? My point stands:
> So - the visitor comes, they read to the bottom, then they have to
> scroll to the top and activate the next tab (and repeat). I'm not too
> keen on this idea.
>
Florian Hamberger wrote:
> Hi all,
> I think especially with netbook computers gaining some market share as tools
> for searching, the web 'Back to Top' links are well to be used on every page.
>
I'd have thought that to be another reason to avoid adding noise to the
page. Scrolling past "Back
On Sep 29, 2008, at 2:58 AM, Prisca schmarsow wrote:
I have had numerous clients who asked for this link on all pages -
even on shorter pages as they feel it is part of a usable page. In
my opinion, trying to predict whether or not people know about
keyboard shortcuts is more difficult th
No, i meant use the tabs as navigation, the tabs will sit on the top of the page
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Dorward [EMAIL
PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, 29 September 2008 18:19
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Is
Hi all,
I think especially with netbook computers gaining some market share as tools
for searching, the web 'Back to Top' links are well to be used on every page.
These computers have screen resolutions of 1024 x 600 pixels or less, so quasi
every page may be considered a long page on these mach
Gleb -
That's the correct path as relative to the css style sheet.
My structure is set up as:
www.koisis.com/.clients/asdem/
. assets
. . css
. . image
Etc.
So, the path is correct (relative to the stylesheet) - you can see the
painting graphic within the link given
Hi,
I'd argue that a 'back to top' link on longer pages is not only a good idea
but also what users expect.
I have had numerous clients who asked for this link on all pages - even on
shorter pages as they feel it is part of a usable page. In my opinion,
trying to predict whether or not people kno
That is a different story though: we are not talking about _replacing_
the home key with a link, we are talking about implementing "additional
affordance" - if the user does not recognise it, or prefers to do things
differently, then nothing is lost.
Whether the additional noise on the page is a sl
what is exactly path to your image?
looks like it wrong
http://www.koisis.com/.clients/asdem/dev/
+
../image/_global/hiroshige.jpg
=
http://www.koisis.com/.clients/asdem/image/_global/hiroshige.jpg (404 Not
Found)
2008/9/29 Florian Hamberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Did you already try positi
Hello Florian -
I just tried it, but the "cropped" background image continues to follow the
height of the wrapper.
Cole
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From: Florian Hamberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 5:54 PM
To: Cole Kuryakin
Cc: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject:
Did you already try position:static; for the wrapper div?
Florian
> Hello All -
>
> I've got this strange problem: I'm setting a tiling background in the html
> element - this works fine. Then I'm setting another background image in the
> body element which is giving me fits.
>
> Take a look here
And you think they guess what 'back to top' link means?
In my expirence, I never pressed buttons like 'Back to Top' on web pages.
2008/9/29, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Really?
> I'll give you ten to one that the majority of PC users have no idea what
> that key does.
>
> Regards,
> M
Really?
I'll give you ten to one that the majority of PC users have no idea what
that key does.
Regards,
Mike
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Sent: 29 September 2008 10:16
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG
Hello All -
I've got this strange problem: I'm setting a tiling background in the html
element - this works fine. Then I'm setting another background image in the
body element which is giving me fits.
Take a look here:
http://www.koisis.com/.clients/asdem/dev/index.php?cmd=001001
The height of t
Henrik Madsen wrote:
>
> Perhaps the solution then is an accordian approach?
Perhaps long pages aren't a problem in the first place.
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I think your users know where 'Home' key is situated on their keyboards!:)
2008/9/29, Henrik Madsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Perhaps the solution then is an accordian approach?
>
>
>
> Henrik Madsen
> Generator
> +61 8 9387 1250
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> On 29/09/200
Perhaps the solution then is an accordian approach?
Henrik Madsen
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On 29/09/2008, at 4:19 PM, David Dorward wrote:
Robin Shi wrote:
How about the tabs with JS? It visually breaks the page into small
parts and switch
Robin Shi wrote:
> How about the tabs with JS? It visually breaks the page into small parts and
> switch by tabs.
>
So - the visitor comes, they read to the bottom, then they have to
scroll to the top and activate the next tab (and repeat). I'm not too
keen on this idea.
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Sorry. Slightly OT:
Just a suggestion... there's every chance lecturer is just looking for a way to
assess that you've got demonstrated knowledge of when upper and lower case is
appropriate in HTML.
If you discuss it with him he'll probably think it's great you're interested.
If you approach i
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