RE: [WSG] IE and the element

Advantages of using buttons: 1) Button elements don't need styling, they take their styling from the user's operating system, which they are, I assume, familiar and comfortable with. I won't be reinventing the wheel. 2) Anchor elements don't have a built-in "disabled" mode, buttons do, and again

Re: [WSG] Exemples to use microformats?

Tks for all responses. On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 11:12 AM, MichaelMD wrote: > On Mon, 2009-02-23 at 04:19 -0300, Ronaldo Bitencourt - Webmaster wrote: > > I am looking for example to use microformtas, something relatively new > > here in brazil, someone can help me with some links? > > > > > ht

[WSG] Code scan, complient to guidelines version 2.0

Hi all I am looking for a code scan tool that compliant to the new accessibility guidelines v2.0 We currently use Bobby, however that is still adhering to the guidelines, version 1.0 Does anybody know of a tool which can do this? If this thread does not follow the guidelines / principals of t

[WSG] Re: WSG Digest

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Re: [WSG] IE and the element

Agree. It is very easy to style the anchor element. Chris F.A. Johnson wrote: On Tue, 24 Feb 2009, John Horner wrote: Thanks for all the discussion so far. It seems I'll have to re-code. I will definitely not be using Javascript. It seems entirely logical to me that there should be such a thin

Re: [WSG] IE and the element

John, I like your approach - I think I might start using it. IMO - means button whether it is in a form or not. And has more meaning than . Don't give into design by committee, just look at how it ruined Tim Berner-Lee's original vision for the web. He is only starting to claw some of it bac

RE: [WSG] IE and the element

On Tue, 24 Feb 2009, John Horner wrote: Thanks for all the discussion so far. It seems I'll have to re-code. I will definitely not be using Javascript. It seems entirely logical to me that there should be such a thing as a button, which can exist outside a form, which has an HREF attribute or ca

RE: [WSG] IE and the element

Thanks for all the discussion so far. It seems I'll have to re-code. I will definitely not be using Javascript. It seems entirely logical to me that there should be such a thing as a button, which can exist outside a form, which has an HREF attribute or can be wrapped in an anchor. But if there

Re: [WSG] Reset Forms

On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 9:03 AM, Todd Budnikas wrote: > A question came up today inquiring about a design my company has recently > completed. There is currently in the design an option to reset the form on > one of the pages. Does anyone have any opinions on the usefulness of that > feature, or s

Re: [WSG] Classes---Adding multiple classes to an element, is there a downfall???

Hey Brett, There are many ways to do what you need - so you may not need to use a multiple class selector at all. OPTION 1 -- Using the html example you sent in a previous email, you could target instances of content using descendant selectors based on the parent classes alone - w

Re: [WSG] Classes---Adding multiple classes to an element, is there a downfall???

So, where: what I was wondering (I should have worded better, sorry) was if I took: .information { background-color: #FFF; color: #000; } /* This below, will apply only to the paragraph with the more-styles class applied to it */ .more-styles { color: #333; } and applied to both of those

[WSG] Reset Forms

A question came up today inquiring about a design my company has recently completed. There is currently in the design an option to reset the form on one of the pages. Does anyone have any opinions on the usefulness of that feature, or statistics on whether or not people use it? Luke Wrobl

Re: [WSG] IE and the element

Patrick H. Lauke wrote: On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Robert O'Rourke wrote: I don't really know how toread the DTDs properly Yeah, it's obscure for sure. http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/interact/forms.html#edef-BUTTON> - - (%flow;

Re: [WSG] IE and the element

There was a wee bug (or two!) in that link I posted, very sorry. http://www.sanchothefat.com/dev/sfhelp/validations.php If you validate that page now it works with the buttons outside of a form. They do however need to be contained by a block element such as a div. **

Re: [WSG] IE and the element

On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Robert O'Rourke wrote: > I don't really know how toread the DTDs properly Yeah, it's obscure for sure. > - - >(%flow; )* > -(A|%formctrl; >

Re: [WSG] IE and the element

Nick Cowie wrote: Frank is correct, a link is semantically correct way to go and to get the behaviour John wants, he is better off using javascript than a button. Though I don't know of a way of disabling a link with javascript ? capture the click event and stop it. In the "bad old obtrusive"

Re: [WSG] IE and the element

Nick Cowie wrote: 2009/2/23 Frank Palinkas : IMHO, not very semantic in nature. We need the button element to be able to carry a valid link-type attribute. Enclosing it in a form just don't cut it. We are talking HTML 4 here, so to have a link you have to use an anchor tag, a form or j

Re: [WSG] IE and the element

Patrick H. Lauke wrote: On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 2:10 PM, wrote: Surely the button element is REQUIRED to be enclosed in a ?? Is it though? Just looking at HTML 4.01, I don't think it's forbidden/invalid to have form elements outside of http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/interact/forms.ht

Re: [WSG] IE and the element

On Feb 23, 2009, at 6:52 AM, Patrick H. Lauke wrote: On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 2:10 PM, wrote: Surely the button element is REQUIRED to be enclosed in a ?? Is it though? Just looking at HTML 4.01, I don't think it's forbidden/invalid to have form elements outside of http://www.w3.org/TR/ht

Re: [WSG] IE and the element

2009/2/23 Frank Palinkas : > IMHO, not very semantic in nature. We need the button element to be able to > carry a valid link-type attribute. Enclosing it in a form just don't cut it. We are talking HTML 4 here, so to have a link you have to use an anchor tag, a form or javascript. Frank is corre

RE: [WSG] IE and the element

That's part of why I posed it as a question, not as a statement. Though, from what I recall, part of the problem was that the mechanism of a DTD was not capable of making such a requirement, and the DTD was regarded as more definitive than the written spec. Mike -Original Message- From:

Re: [WSG] Classes---Adding multiple classes to an element, is there a downfall???

On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Brett Patterson < inspiron.patters...@gmail.com> wrote: > Note the space in the second paragraph class attribute...from what I have > heard this allows multiple classes to be applied to a single element. Is > there a downfall to applying multiple classes to an elem

Re: [WSG] IE and the element

On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 2:10 PM, wrote: > Surely the button element is REQUIRED to be enclosed in a ?? Is it though? Just looking at HTML 4.01, I don't think it's forbidden/invalid to have form elements outside of http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/interact/forms.html#edef-BUTTON and even in HTML 5

Re: [WSG] IE and the element

Indeed, and that's where the problem lies. I don't believe that using (which must be placed within a ) purely for _hyperlink_ purposes is good practice or semantically correct. My apologies, I may have gotten a bit ahead of myself. Med vennlig hilsen / Kind regards, Frank M. Palinkas Technical W

[WSG] Classes---Adding multiple classes to an element, is there a downfall???

Hey all, a quick question, consider the following code: Content goes here on line 1 Content goes here on line 2 Note the space in the second paragraph class attribute...from what I have heard this allows multiple classes to be applied to a single element. Is there a downfall to applying mult

Re: [WSG] Exemples to use microformats?

On Mon, 2009-02-23 at 04:19 -0300, Ronaldo Bitencourt - Webmaster wrote: > I am looking for example to use microformtas, something relatively new > here in brazil, someone can help me with some links? > http://microformats.org/wiki/ **

Re: [WSG] IE and the element

Frank Palinkas wrote: On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Nick Cowie > wrote: Rob wrote: >Buttons were mainly designed as triggers for javascript behaviour, I disagree, if you look at the original HTML 4 materi

RE: [WSG] IE and the element

Surely the button element is REQUIRED to be enclosed in a ?? Mike From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Frank Palinkas Sent: 23 February 2009 12:56 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] IE and the elemen

Re: [WSG] Exemples to use microformats?

Here's one I made for news entries on a page that uses the "hcard" microformat: http://onewebguy.com/2008/02/23/marking-up-a-list-of-articles/ Joseph R. B. Taylor /Designer / Developer/ -- Sites by Joe, LLC /"Clean, Simple and Elegant Web Design"/ Phone: (609

Re: [WSG] IE and the element

IMHO, not very semantic in nature. We need the button element to be able to carry a valid link-type attribute. Enclosing it in a form just don't cut it. It must be able to stand by itself as an alternative means to activate a hyperlink, as another aspect of its functionality. Med vennlig hilsen / K

Re: [WSG] IE and the element

Rob wrote: >Buttons were mainly designed as triggers for javascript behaviour, I disagree, if you look at the original HTML 4 material, you will see that the button element promoted as an improved input element. Why not foo -- Nick Cowie http://nickcowie.com ***

Re: [WSG] IE and the element

John Horner wrote: I adopted the use of the element in an application I'm working on, used like this: foo one main reason I liked buttons is that they can be disabled with an attribute, which was useful for things like keeping a "next" button everywhere, so that the layout was consistent,

Re: [WSG] Exemples to use microformats?

On 23/02/2009, at 5:19 PM, Ronaldo Bitencourt - Webmaster wrote: I am looking for example to use microformtas, something relatively new here in brazil, someone can help me with some links? http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard-examples-in-wild Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems Brisbane, .au