[WSG] Zoom Layouts

2005-10-05 Thread Mike Brown
Hey I don't think there is, but is there any sort of consensus of the use of zoom layouts? http://www.alistapart.com/articles/lowvision/ http://www.joeclark.org/atmedia/atmedia-NOTES-2.html http://www.stopdesign.com/log/2005/06/24/zoom-layout.html In particular: 1) How do you signal that

Re: [WSG] Zoom Layouts

2005-10-05 Thread russ - maxdesign
1) How do you signal that one is available? I'd like to use text (as opposed to an icon) but who is going to know what zoom layout means? Perhaps low-vision layout or low-vision version work better? The new Amnesty International Australia site uses a zoom layout option. The icon can be seen

Re: [WSG] Zoom Layouts

2005-10-05 Thread Zach Inglis
Joe Clarke did a speech on it earlier this year at @media... his slides can be found at http://joeclark.org/atmedia/atmedia-NOTES-2.html On 5 Oct 2005, at 16:53, Mike Brown wrote: Hey I don't think there is, but is there any sort of consensus of the use of zoom layouts?

Re: [WSG] Zoom Layouts

2005-10-05 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Mike Brown wrote: I don't think there is, but is there any sort of consensus of the use of zoom layouts? 1) How do you signal that one is available? I'd like to use text (as opposed to an icon) but who is going to know what zoom layout means? Perhaps low-vision layout or low-vision version

Re: [WSG] Zoom Layouts

2005-10-05 Thread Mike Brown
Patrick H. Lauke said: I actually had a bit of a discussion with Joe Clark on this issue during his London workshop last month. I'd argue that users of things like screen magnifiers, who are the target audience for zoom layouts, don't need excessively larger fonts and that the reversing of

Re: [WSG] Zoom Layouts

2005-10-05 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Mike Brown wrote: Meaning that the value of zoom layouts is what? Just that it's putting content is a single column to prevent overlap etc? Not just overlap, but mainly that things aren't positioned off to the right, where users with screen magnifiers won't normally look for them. And

Re: [WSG] Zoom Layouts

2005-10-05 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Patrick H. Lauke wrote: As for naming, imho it would also make sense to simply call it single column / large size or similar... ..or *linearized* / large text-size... Thierry | www.TJKDesign.com ** The discussion list for

Re: [WSG] Zoom Layouts

2005-10-05 Thread Andy Kirkwood | Motive
Hi Mike, Seems that making user's aware of what 'zoom', 'single column', 'high/low contrast', 'low graphics' or any of the other alternatives is another issue like that of educating new users about browser 'Text size' options. From personal experience, when first stumbling upon issues of

Re: [WSG] Zoom Layouts

2005-10-05 Thread Terrence Wood
Andy Kirkwood|Motive said: Perhaps an icon that indication of a single column (maybe with an obviously enlarged 'T')? Might I suggest a magnifying glass over the 'T', or a '+' as an icon? kind regards Terrence Wood. ** The discussion list

Re: [WSG] Zoom Layouts

2005-10-05 Thread Andy Kirkwood | Motive
That's what makes selecting a suitable representation difficult. With a 'T' and magnifying-glass icon, would the user expect to have their layout transformed from 2 or 3 columns to a single column or a high/low contrast layout? Perhaps the type size, layout and contrast options should be