RE: [WSG] a good practise for adding email link (mailto)?

2008-06-16 Thread James Leslie
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fuji kusaka Sent: 13 June 2008 05:23 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] a good practise for adding email link (mailto)? Hi The best way is to encrypt the email address and make use

Re: [WSG] a good practise for adding email link (mailto)?

2008-06-16 Thread Michael Persson
] a good practise for adding email link (mailto)? Hi The best way is to encrypt the email address and make use of a js. This will avoid loads of problems specially spamming. This is simple just follow the instructions here http://jumk.de/nospam/stopspam.html Fuji On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 6:22 AM

RE: [WSG] a good practise for adding email link (mailto)?

2008-06-16 Thread James Leslie
I guess it depends on the clients you have. We have several sites getting over 100,000 hits a day, with around 5% of users not having JavaScript enabled. To prevent this number of people from contacting us is completely out of the question. My belief is that the internet is for users, and as web

RE: [WSG] a good practise for adding email link (mailto)?

2008-06-16 Thread Chris Taylor
use yours. Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Persson Sent: 16 June 2008 10:53 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] a good practise for adding email link (mailto)? The best way is a form that also has a secure SPAM

Re: [WSG] a good practise for adding email link (mailto)?

2008-06-16 Thread Joseph Ortenzi
kusaka *Sent:* 13 June 2008 05:23 *To:* wsg@webstandardsgroup.org *Subject:* Re: [WSG] a good practise for adding email link (mailto)? Hi The best way is to encrypt the email address and make use of a js. This will avoid loads of problems specially spamming. This is simple just follow

RE: [WSG] a good practise for adding email link (mailto)?

2008-06-16 Thread marcello09
:-) ---Original Message--- From: Chris Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [WSG] a good practise for adding email link (mailto)? Sent: Jun 16 '08 10:18 Michael, What if JavaScript isn't enabled or available on my smartphone? I presume your websites are not for people accessing the web

Re: [WSG] a good practise for adding email link (mailto)?

2008-06-16 Thread David Dorward
On 16 Jun 2008, at 11:58, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My 2 cents: I'm one of those standards freaks. But when my clients became overwhelmed with SPAM from their contact forms I had to bend the rules. And when I say overwhelmed I'm talking about several hundred SPAM

Re: [WSG] a good practise for adding email link (mailto)?

2008-06-16 Thread Srinivas Gattu
Bottomline, what's the best solution? On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 4:42 PM, David Dorward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 16 Jun 2008, at 11:58, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My 2 cents: I'm one of those standards freaks. But when my clients became overwhelmed with SPAM from

Re: [WSG] a good practise for adding email link (mailto)?

2008-06-16 Thread Jason Ray
PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [WSG] a good practise for adding email link (mailto)? Sent: Jun 16 '08 10:18 Michael, What if JavaScript isn't enabled or available on my smartphone? I presume your websites are not for people accessing the web while on the move, as well as people whose

Re: [WSG] a good practise for adding email link (mailto)?

2008-06-16 Thread Joseph Ortenzi
: [WSG] a good practise for adding email link (mailto)? Sent: Jun 16 '08 10:18 Michael, What if JavaScript isn't enabled or available on my smartphone? I presume your websites are not for people accessing the web while on the move, as well as people whose preference or requirement is to use

Re: [WSG] a good practise for adding email link (mailto)?

2008-06-16 Thread sundar
the visitors (and customers) who can't use yours. Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Persson Sent: 16 June 2008 10:53 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] a good practise for adding email link (mailto)? The best

Re: [WSG] a good practise for adding email link (mailto)?

2008-06-16 Thread Michael Persson
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Persson Sent: 16 June 2008 10:53 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] a good practise for adding email link (mailto)? The best way is a form that also has a secure SPAM code or just make a image that search engines cannot

Re: [WSG] a good practise for adding email link (mailto)?

2008-06-16 Thread Michael Persson
kusaka *Sent:* 13 June 2008 05:23 *To:* wsg@webstandardsgroup.org *Subject:* Re: [WSG] a good practise for adding email link (mailto)? Hi The best way is to encrypt the email address and make use of a js. This will avoid loads of problems specially spamming. This is simple just follow

Re: [WSG] a good practise for adding email link (mailto)?

2008-06-16 Thread Joseph Ortenzi
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Persson Sent: 16 June 2008 10:53 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] a good practise for adding email link (mailto)? The best way is a form that also has a secure SPAM code or just make a image that search engines cannot read... I believe

RE: [WSG] a good practise for adding email link (mailto)?

2008-06-16 Thread Chris Taylor
Michael said: Are you willing to work 3 days extra for each project to implement the usability / accessibility regulations in order to follow the web standard in order to create a better website that the client will not pay for or even understand what they are paying for...?? I try to quote

RE: [WSG] a good practise for adding email link (mailto)?

2008-06-16 Thread michael.brockington
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Ray Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 12:21 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] a good practise for adding email link (mailto)? A decent spam filter will get rid of most, if not all, of the junk - why

Re: [WSG] a good practise for adding email link (mailto)?

2008-06-16 Thread David Dorward
On 16 Jun 2008, at 14:19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rubbish. I have plenty of experience of commercial-grade spam filters, and when 95% of received mail is spam, you don't have a hope of getting it all, unless you want to block a significant portion of legitimate

Re: [WSG] a good practise for adding email link (mailto)?

2008-06-16 Thread Michael Persson
Dear Chris, I could not said it better myself. I am alone front end developer and technical responsible for the projects we are creating in the company i work. I have tried to implement web standards, accessibility and usability for the last 2 years but sometimes I am just chopped by the

RE: [WSG] a good practise for adding email link (mailto)?

2008-06-16 Thread michael.brockington
, but still not nearly as well documented. Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Persson Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 2:34 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] a good practise for adding email link (mailto)? Dear

RE: [WSG] a good practise for adding email link (mailto)?

2008-06-16 Thread Chris Taylor
: Re: [WSG] a good practise for adding email link (mailto)? Dear Chris, I could not said it better myself. I am alone front end developer and technical responsible for the projects we are creating in the company i work. I have tried to implement web standards, accessibility and usability

RE: [WSG] a good practise for adding email link (mailto)?

2008-06-16 Thread James Edenborough
without flash player. So does everyone agree that the form is the best option for entire cross - situation compatibility? James Subject: RE: [WSG] a good practise for adding email link (mailto)? Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:41:33 +0100 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org

RE: [WSG] a good practise for adding email link (mailto)?

2008-06-16 Thread michael.brockington
So does everyone agree that the form is the best option for entire cross - situation compatibility? James I think that is really an individual decision - a simple contact form on its own has a number of usability issues, which are well documented elsewhere. For the user there is the lack of

Re: [WSG] a good practise for adding email link (mailto)?

2008-06-13 Thread Dani Iswara
I'll choose the secure contact form if there is a fully accessible one.. On 6/13/08, Fuji kusaka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi The best way is to encrypt the email address and make use of a js. This will avoid loads of problems specially spamming. This is simple just follow the instructions

[WSG] a good practise for adding email link (mailto)?

2008-06-12 Thread tee
This is one of the thing I can't decide. At time, it seemed nothing wrong to have an email link (js encrypted, not mailto that shows email address nakely to Mr. Spam King), but as many people are actually using webmail, or sometimes access websites via public computer (internet cafe or

Re: [WSG] a good practise for adding email link (mailto)?

2008-06-12 Thread Jason Ray
I have used mailto: on the websites I have designed, which usually include a reference to my email and I haven't really had issues with spam. Spam filters on Gmail seem to be doing a fine job of filtering out the mail I don't want to see, so I'm not all that concerned about having my email address

Re: [WSG] a good practise for adding email link (mailto)?

2008-06-12 Thread tee
Hi Jason, Thanks for the response. My question however isn't about using mailto draws attention to spam, but the mailto (direct email link) causes problem for people who use no email client, because when you click on the link, it wants to open up an email client. Some people find this

Re: [WSG] a good practise for adding email link (mailto)?

2008-06-12 Thread Jason Ray
Right. Making sure the actual email address is used in the mailto is important - 'contact us' ones do frustrate me, but there are plugins for browsers like Firefox that allow such links to be redirected to my webmail (Gmail, Yahoo, Hotmail, etc) rather than Outlook. The address will appear in the

Re: [WSG] a good practise for adding email link (mailto)?

2008-06-12 Thread Fuji kusaka
Hi The best way is to encrypt the email address and make use of a js. This will avoid loads of problems specially spamming. This is simple just follow the instructions here http://jumk.de/nospam/stopspam.html Fuji On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 6:22 AM, tee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is one