On 14/1/09 05:31, mary-anne.nay...@medicareaustralia.gov.au wrote:
They are using them to facilitate the menu/header/footer ite,s across a
host of applications which sit on a range of differing servers using a rang
of differing technologies. I suggested SSI's but that is not possible due
to serve
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14/01/2009 04:51 Re: [WSG] Frames/iFrames
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mary-anne.nay...@medicareaustralia.gov.au wrote:
They are using them to facilitate the menu/header/footer ite,s across a
host of applications which sit on a range of differing servers using a rang
of differing technologies. I suggested SSI's but that is not possible due
to server configuration is
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Re: [WSG] Frames/iFrames
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On 12/1/09 07:12, mary-anne.nay...@medicareaustralia.gov.au wrote:
I am just wondering what is the general consensus on the use of Frames or
iFrames these days. WCAG2.0 is not terribly clear on whether we should or
shouldn't be using them.
WCAG 2.0 tries to express the principles of web accessi
On 12/01/2009, at 6:12 PM, mary-anne.nay...@medicareaustralia.gov.au
wrote:
I am just wondering what is the general consensus on the use of
Frames or iFrames these days.
When required, I use HTML 4.01 transitional and iFrames to take
advantage of iFrame remoting. Combined with unobtrusive J
Of Stuart Foulstone
Sent: Thursday, 3 April 2008 6:02 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: RE: [WSG] Frames and title relevance to screen readers
Hi,
The link I gave discusses screereaders and seems to suggest that
screenreaders use the title attribute of the frames rather than the title
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> Hi,
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> You might find the following link useful:
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> See http:/
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Hi,
You might find the following link useful:
See http://www.webaim.org/techniq
On 4/2/08, Anat Katz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> ???
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> this is what your visitor would see in the title bar of the browser or
nothing if you left it blank. using keywords in your title helps with seo.
dwain
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Sent: Wednesday, 2 April 2008 8:43 PM
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Subject: Re: [WSG] Frames and title relevance to screen readers
Hi,
You might find the following link useful:
See http
Hi,
You might find the following link useful:
See http://www.webaim.org/techniques/frames/
Stuart
On Wed, April 2, 2008 1:13 am, Anat Katz wrote:
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> Hi team,
>
> Just a general question - is there any value from a screen reader point of
> view, to have a specific title to the actual pages that
Kevin Ross wrote:
> However, I still have a few questions...
> Isn't using a dynamic frameset, still using frames?
Yes.
> What is the advantage, other than being able to place the frame where
> I want?
What I understood from your questions is that you were going to build the
entire site using f
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Good evening gentleman. I want to thank all of you for your
interesting replies to my question. I will gather all of the info and try
Kevin Ross said:
> Isn't using a dynamic frameset, still using frames?
Yes.
> What is the advantage?
None that I'm aware of.
> I will suggest that we just open a new window... I feel more comfortable
> with that as opposed to frames. Comments?
Pop-up's are the lesser of the two evils, and if
Good evening gentleman. I want to thank all of you for your interesting replies to my question. I will gather all of the info and try to come up with an educated reply ! At any rate, there is a lot to think about. My client may not be "dead set" on using frames. I will use the info garnered in
Terrence Wood wrote:
> On 17 Dec 2005, at 6:46 PM, Thierry Koblentz wrote:
>
>> Terrence Wood wrote:
>>> Have I missed something or is this just, erm, frames using
>>> javascript instead of a static page?
>>
>> I'm not sure I understand your question.
>> Isn't what the OP is looking for? Being able
On 17 Dec 2005, at 6:46 PM, Thierry Koblentz wrote:
Terrence Wood wrote:
Have I missed something or is this just, erm, frames using javascript
instead of a static page?
I'm not sure I understand your question.
Isn't what the OP is looking for? Being able to link to *and* frame
other
web sit
Terrence Wood wrote:
> Thierry Koblentz said:
> think you can achieve what your client wants without building his site
>> using frames.
>> Create a dynamic frameset [1]> [1]
> http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/frames/5.asp
> Have I missed something or is this just, erm, frames using javascript
> i
Thierry Koblentz said:
think you can achieve what your client wants without building his site
> using frames.
> Create a dynamic frameset [1]> [1]
http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/frames/5.asp
>
Have I missed something or is this just, erm, frames using javascript
instead of a static page?
kind
Kevin Ross wrote:
> Hi. I am new to the group and have a question.
>
> I have a client who wants to set up his business site in such a way
> that his logo and "business presence" is always maintained when the
> client visits a link to one of the manufacturers that my client
> represents.
I think
ot alot of referals from you..
jsut athought, and im sure the answer would be no, but you never know ?! -
or maybe you do..
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Subject: RE: [WSG] Frames ?
Date: Fri, 16 Dec
Peter Levan said:
> I believe you can make use of the position: fixed css property to get
> some frame-like behaviour, eg applying it to a navigation div. However I
> don't know what the browser support is like.
Not supported in IE/PC... and this doesn't solve the problem of having the
branding ap
> I have a client who wants to set up his business site in such a way that his
> logo and "business presence" is always maintained when the client visits a
> link to one of the manufacturers that my client represents.
...
> Now, I am not a proponent of frames, but this sounds like frames to me. Is
G'day
Peter Levan wrote:
I believe you can make use of the position: fixed css property to get
some frame-like behaviour
Which is fine if you have control over the whole page, but not if
you're trying to display someone else's site within your own (not
recommended), as asked in the original
I believe you can make use of the position: fixed css
property to get some frame-like behaviour, eg applying it to a navigation div.
However I don't know what the browser support is like.
_
Peter
Levan
Web Manager, Australian
Kevin,
Why don't you ask your client this: How would you feel if your site
appeared within another sites design with their logo and slogan above
your own?
I would try to convince him that you can achieve better results with a
small page with information about why the linked site is relevant, a
sm
On 12/15/05, Kevin Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Now, I am not a proponent of frames, but this sounds like frames to me. Is
> there a way to do this using Web Standards and CSS (my preference) ?
>
> If so, are there any examples of this out there ?
If you want an example of frames being used,
Ugh, is right!
Go with the advice from Terrence.
Duplicated navigation, the risk that the manufacturers sites will use framesets…sounds like a
users worst nightmare.
An example might be a great way of
convincing your client not to go down this path!
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Kevin Ross said:
> his logo and "business presence" is always maintained when the client
> visits a link to one of the manufacturers.
Ugh. This is a bit pre-dot bomb isn't it? I'd wager that this type of site
will only serve to diminish his online presence, not enhance it.
Is there a benefit for
I can´t see other way to create a chat page
without frames. This is the only (IMHO) thing I
use frames.
Of course, there are many ways to use it, as
evil ways, but in a chat you got to have two
frames, at least: one where you put the form,
and another where you read the messages. This
one yo
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Sent: 12 May 2005 12:12
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] frames
hi,
> Can anyone tell me if/when it is 'OK' to use frames? Since the W3C
> spec still includes them, I wondered (if) when it was considered legit
> to employ them - on a par with tables, w
I can´t see other way to create a chat page without frames. This is the
only (IMHO) thing I use frames.
Of course, there are many ways to use it, as evil ways, but in a chat
you got to have two frames, at least: one where you put the form, and
another where you read the messages. This one you h
hi,
> Can anyone tell me if/when it is 'OK' to use frames? Since the W3C spec
> still includes them, I wondered (if) when it was considered legit to employ
> them - on a par with tables, which are avoided at all costs, except when
> displaying 'tabular data'. So I assume the W3C have included fr
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