RE: [WSG] A way to skip a Flash-intro if Flash is not installed?

2005-05-23 Thread Ian Fenn
Kristian wrote: > So is there some way I can test if people have Flash installed or not? > Or do you have some other suggestion? On a recent project I tested for the existence of Flash using some publicly-available JavaScript. I then served up an image if Flash wasn't installed. The noscript alter

Re: [WSG] A way to skip a Flash-intro if Flash is not installed?

2005-05-23 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Ian Fenn wrote: On a recent project I tested for the existence of Flash using some publicly-available JavaScript. I then served up an image if Flash wasn't installed. The noscript alternative was also the image. It was the only way I could seem to serve something sensible to all browsers. Out

RE: [WSG] A way to skip a Flash-intro if Flash is not installed?

2005-05-23 Thread Ian Fenn
Patrick wrote: > Out of interest: why not simply provide the alternative content inside > the OBJECT element, as per specification? If the OBJECT itself can't be > displayed (e.g. Flash is not installed), then the alternative is > displayed...all without getting any scripting involved. I didn't fi

Re: [WSG] A way to skip a Flash-intro if Flash is not installed?

2005-05-24 Thread Kay Smoljak
On 5/24/05, Patrick H. Lauke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Out of interest: why not simply provide the alternative content inside > the OBJECT element, as per specification? If the OBJECT itself can't be > displayed (e.g. Flash is not installed), then the alternative is > displayed...all without get

Re: [WSG] A way to skip a Flash-intro if Flash is not installed?

2005-05-24 Thread heretic
> I thought that if Flash wasn't installed, the browser would prompt you > to download and install it rather than just displaying the alternate > content? Not necessarily - plus many browsers now give the option to *disable* the plugin which may result in different behaviour. For example I use Op

Re: [WSG] A way to skip a Flash-intro if Flash is not installed?

2005-05-24 Thread Kay Smoljak
I'm not here to bash Flash - used properly, I'm a big fan. My concern when I developed the JavaScript detection method we use was to find a way that would work seamlessly as expected without nagging the user in as many different situations and browsers as possible - including IE5 which seems a bit

Re: [WSG] A way to skip a Flash-intro if Flash is not installed?

2005-05-25 Thread James Ellis
Hi I wrote an article about Flash Player detection techniques, located at Sitepoint. http://www.sitepoint.com/article/techniques-unearthed One of the sections involves implementation of object tags, there is also some Javascript bizzo. This may hopefully assist you. Note: it was written in 2003

Re: [WSG] A way to skip a Flash-intro if Flash is not installed?

2005-05-25 Thread Kristian Rasmussen
Thanks James - exactly what I was looking for! Kristian On 5/25/05, James Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi > > I wrote an article about Flash Player detection techniques, located at > Sitepoint. > http://www.sitepoint.com/article/techniques-unearthed > > One of the sections involves implem

Re: [WSG] A way to skip a Flash-intro if Flash is not installed?

2005-05-31 Thread John Horner
Somewhat belatedly -- the Flash-detection JavaScript I recommend is the "Moock FPI" script, see http://www.moock.org/webdesign/flash/detection/moockfpi/ a lot of work has gone into it and it has a very detailed bug-fix history, which gives me confidence, although it doesn't seem to have been u

Re: [WSG] A way to skip a Flash-intro if Flash is not installed?

2005-06-01 Thread Kristian Rasmussen
Hi again, Just an addition in case anyone else needs to do this: I found that making an extra CSS-layer with nothing but position:absolute and a link to get past the intro is enough. Viewers who have flash won't be able to see it if the flash-object has 100% width and height, and others will only

Re: [WSG] A way to skip a Flash-intro if Flash is not installed?

2005-06-01 Thread Vicki Berry
Like most dial-up users who do have Flash installed, I don't want to *ever* sit (and sit, and sit, and sit) through a Flash intro and want to be able to clearly see the link that says to skip it - please don't hide it behind the Flash movie! Best not to take usability choices away from your

Re: [WSG] A way to skip a Flash-intro if Flash is not installed?

2005-06-01 Thread Chris Kennon
Hi, Just saw an opportunity to join the hands of Standards and Flash developers. Gratuitous flash intros are very much frowned upon. They have become like the exploding auto, flipping 20 times scenes in American action films. Peace, C On Jun 1, 2005, at 4:40 PM, Vicki Berry wrote: Like m

Re: [WSG] A way to skip a Flash-intro if Flash is not installed?

2005-06-02 Thread Kristian Rasmussen
Well, the flash-intro itself has a skip-button, so that won't be necessary. /Kristian On 6/2/05, Vicki Berry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Like most dial-up users who do have Flash installed, I don't want to > *ever* sit (and sit, and sit, and sit) through a Flash intro and want > to be able to cl

Re: [WSG] A way to skip a Flash-intro if Flash is not installed?

2005-06-02 Thread Leslie Riggs
But, Kristian, if a dial-up user has to sit and sit and sit to wait for the Flash to load, when is this person going to see the skip button? Leslie Riggs Well, the flash-intro itself has a skip-button, so that won't be necessary. /Kristian Like most dial-up users who do have Flash instal

Re: [WSG] A way to skip a Flash-intro if Flash is not installed?

2005-06-05 Thread Kristian Rasmussen
This flash-intro is only 34K, so that won't be a problem. However, if the intro is bigger than that, you might be right, but I have no idea how you would do it properly. Kristian On 6/2/05, Leslie Riggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But, Kristian, if a dial-up user has to sit and sit and sit to wa

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