[wsjt-devel] Question about QRZ Integration

2020-12-03 Thread Dave Slotter, W3DJS
Bill and Joe: If I were to develop an integration with QRZ to automatically look up the full names of people associated with a callsign that's getting logged and populate the name field in the log window, would you be receptive to receiving and incorporating said patch? Please advise, and thank y

Re: [wsjt-devel] Question about QRZ Integration

2020-12-03 Thread John Nelson via wsjt-devel
Dave, Scheme to populate name field in log: good idea but — you suggest “full names” where it seems to me “first name” would be sufficient and appropriate. Comment? — John G4KLA smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ wsjt-devel

Re: [wsjt-devel] Question about QRZ Integration

2020-12-03 Thread Neil Zampella
FWIW ... there are plenty of third-party bridge, programs that do this as do many logging programs.  Adding something that requires Internet access both ways, rather than the PSK Reporter's feed only, may cause other issues, as well as add on to the support issues often seen here. Neil, KN3ILZ O

Re: [wsjt-devel] Question about QRZ Integration

2020-12-03 Thread Dave Slotter, W3DJS
You said, "there are plenty of third-party bridge, programs that do this as do many logging programs" Please support your statement with specific examples. I would like to know which of these run under Linux and directly modify the file "wsjtx_log.adi" file. Thank you. Regards -- Dave Slotter,

Re: [wsjt-devel] Question about QRZ Integration

2020-12-03 Thread Bill Frantz
Given the number of cultural differences in naming, it is a difficult question which name is the given name and which is the family name. If it is a Spanish speaker, it is likely that both the father's and mother's family names will be included in the full name. If the OP is Hungarian, the gi

Re: [wsjt-devel] Question about QRZ Integration

2020-12-03 Thread Alan Groups
It occurs to me that this may also need to be checked the EU General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR)?  It's very wide in effect! Alan G0TLK On 03/12/2020 16:32, Bill Frantz wrote: Given the number of cultural differences in naming, it is a difficult question which name is the given name and

Re: [wsjt-devel] Question about QRZ Integration

2020-12-03 Thread Al Kozakiewicz
ginal Message- From: Alan Groups [mailto:al...@alangroups.plus.com] Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2020 1:44 PM To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Question about QRZ Integration It occurs to me that this may also need to be checked the EU General Data Protection Regul

Re: [wsjt-devel] Question about QRZ Integration

2020-12-03 Thread DG2YCB, Uwe
...@gmail.com] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 3. Dezember 2020 15:26 An: WSJT software development Betreff: [wsjt-devel] Question about QRZ Integration Bill and Joe: If I were to develop an integration with QRZ to automatically look up the full names of people associated with a callsign that's ge

Re: [wsjt-devel] Question about QRZ Integration

2020-12-03 Thread Neil Zampella
There are many for Windows, and I'm fairly sure that Gridtracker does a lookup also, and its available for Linux. As far as modifying the wsjtx_log file, why?    Again, you're adding complexity to the program that is not really needed, and would add to the support issues seen here. Neil, KN3ILZ

Re: [wsjt-devel] Question about QRZ Integration

2020-12-03 Thread James Shaver (N2ADV)
So many users have so many different tastes that the UI really should be dedicated to decoding functions vs what are “quality of life” functions. If you try to sharpen a hammer to make it a knife, you’ll have a mediocre knife and a terrible hammer. Just my 2 cents... 73, Jim S. N2ADV > O

Re: [wsjt-devel] Question about QRZ Integration

2020-12-03 Thread Adam Bartlett
I want to agree with Jim N2ADV here - WSJT-X is a great application for weak signal work. ACLog/Log4OM/RUMLog are great loggers that will tie to QRZ/HamQTH/a database of US Hams from the FCC's dump/etc, and two of the three are free (plus CQRLog and other tools). In information systems we're movi

Re: [wsjt-devel] Question about QRZ Integration

2020-12-03 Thread Hasan N0AN
Please do not ask the developers to turn WSJT-X into Bloatware. Focus on the core functions and let 3rd party apps do the rest. They are out there. The interface to them already exists. Don't recreate the wheel and negatively impact the decoding of weak signals by trying to make WSJT-X into a Swiss

Re: [wsjt-devel] Question about QRZ Integration

2020-12-03 Thread Dave Slotter, W3DJS
Just curious -- how many of the people responding to my original message -- *directed at Bill and Joe* -- are actually going to be coding anything? Not to be an ass here, but this was not an open invitation to send QRM to the mailing list. If you have code to contribute, great, otherwise, please s

Re: [wsjt-devel] Question about QRZ Integration

2020-12-03 Thread Hasan N0AN
It is not qrm'ing the list to take issue with a proposed developmental issue that may negatively impact the program. If implemented, it will impact ALL of us, not just you. If that impact is deleterious, we suffer for your so-called enhancement, so we have every right to voice our opinions and reco

Re: [wsjt-devel] Question about QRZ Integration

2020-12-03 Thread James Shaver (N2ADV)
The developers have always carefully weighed what has been asked vs what the positive or negative impacts would be. Just because you don’t like the responses does not automatically make it QRM. Feel free to ignore whatever you do not like but as many of us happily work on testing and providing

Re: [wsjt-devel] Question about QRZ Integration

2020-12-03 Thread Thomas Schaefer
It does beg the question if there is a use case where someone is not exporting their ADIF log to a real logging program (or using JT-ALERT to do it for them). As has been said, I would expect the station logger to have the QRZ, HamCall, etc interface and NOT WSJT-X. Tom Schaefer, NY4I Blog: ww

Re: [wsjt-devel] Question about QRZ Integration

2020-12-03 Thread Dave Slotter, W3DJS
I assumed someone would get pissed off by this. So I already emailed Bill & Joe directly to avoid the noise. I do not believe Bill or Joe would let something bad enter the code base. And, this is wsjt-devel, not wsjt-users. The email group for users is: https://wsjtx.groups.io/g/main/ I recommen

Re: [wsjt-devel] Question about QRZ Integration

2020-12-03 Thread Neil Zampella
I have programmed in the past, although not for this project. However, this is not irrelevant.   You are looking to add complexity to a program that really does not need added complexity. In addition, you are adding to the support issues that Bill et al, already have as this addition has to work

Re: [wsjt-devel] Question about QRZ Integration

2020-12-03 Thread Jim Shorney
Spot om Adam. There are so many different operating modes and styles that a dedicated log for each one quickly turns into a herd of cats WRT stats and award tracking. A good master log saves the day. One log to rule them all, one log to find them, One log to bring them all and in the da

Re: [wsjt-devel] Question about QRZ Integration

2020-12-03 Thread Claude Frantz
On 12/3/20 8:23 PM, DG2YCB, Uwe wrote: Hi Uwe & all, Personally, I would really appreciate it if WSJT-X had this function. This additional data would significantly enhance the wsjtx_log.adi file. In addition to QRZ.com, hamQTH.com should be supported (free xml access). My opinion is that this f

Re: [wsjt-devel] Question about QRZ Integration

2020-12-04 Thread Saku
Hi ! Cqrlog does this, but saves to it's own mysql database. Using Cqrlog you can have also CW, SSB and digital mode (fldigi,wsjt-x. js8call, qsstv) qsos all in same log, or logs. If you want to split them. Runs under Linux and FreeBSD. There is ADIF export if you need .adi file for other pur

Re: [wsjt-devel] Question about QRZ Integration

2020-12-05 Thread Bill Somerville
On 03/12/2020 14:25, Dave Slotter, W3DJS wrote: Bill and Joe: If I were to develop an integration with QRZ to automatically look up the full names of people associated with a callsign that's getting logged and populate the name field in the log window, would you be receptive to receiving and

Re: [wsjt-devel] Question about QRZ Integration

2020-12-05 Thread Dave Slotter, W3DJS
Hi Bill, Thank you for such a detailed and thoughtful response. Understood that QRZ XML API is a paid service. And yes, there are free services like HamQTH.com XML API. Three questions come to mind: a) What do you mean by "We also allow users to substitute an augmented ADIF log file"? b) I re-

Re: [wsjt-devel] Question about QRZ Integration

2020-12-05 Thread Bill Somerville
Hi Dave, comments in line below. On 05/12/2020 15:37, Dave Slotter, W3DJS wrote: Hi Bill, Thank you for such a detailed and thoughtful response. Understood that QRZ XML API is a paid service. And yes, there are free services like HamQTH.com XML API. Three questions come to mind: a) What d

Re: [wsjt-devel] Question about QRZ Integration

2020-12-05 Thread Alan Groups
A prime concern with all software is development time, but in my experience that's dwarfed by maintenance time requirements as that usually grows at a faster rate than the development time as an app gets bigger. For example something changes in the core application, the plugin enabling code (

Re: [wsjt-devel] Question about QRZ Integration

2020-12-05 Thread Carey Fisher
That's why regression testing is so important. Carey, WB4HXE On Sat, Dec 5, 2020 at 11:24 AM Alan Groups wrote: > A prime concern with all software is development time, but in my > experience that's dwarfed by maintenance time requirements as that usually > grows at a faster rate than the develo

Re: [wsjt-devel] Question about QRZ Integration

2020-12-05 Thread Dave Slotter, W3DJS
Hi Bill, You've been very clear in two separate messages that you're not going to be accepting any code merges from me for this functionality -- even in a suggested reduced format. This leaves me with two options (which are not exclusive from each other): a) Relegate my work to a forked version o

Re: [wsjt-devel] Question about QRZ Integration

2020-12-05 Thread Tom M0LTE
Hi Dave This seems like an ideal thing to implement on top of the existing UDP interface, which Bill alluded to. You could have your app listen for QSO Logged messages from WSJT-X, do your QRZ lookup, popping a dialogue if necessary, then write the record out to an ADIF file owned by your app. Am