Re: [wsjt-devel] Truncated Waterfall Display "Feature"

2023-04-10 Thread Reino Talarmo via wsjt-devel
Michael via wsjt-devel [mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net] Sent: maanantai 10. huhtikuuta 2023 17.00 To: Reino Talarmo via wsjt-devel Cc: Black Michael Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Truncated Waterfall Display "Feature" -24 is not the minimum SNR reported. -30 is. Below -24 is p

Re: [wsjt-devel] Truncated Waterfall Display "Feature"

2023-04-10 Thread Sam W2JDB via wsjt-devel
7; ; 'WSJT software development' Cc: Reino Talarmo Sent: Mon, Apr 10, 2023 10:15 am Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Truncated Waterfall Display "Feature" Hi Mike,Perhaps I need to do the same search. I remember that Bill (sk) mentioned that the -24 dB is used in WSJT-X for FT8 because

Re: [wsjt-devel] Truncated Waterfall Display "Feature"

2023-04-10 Thread Reino Talarmo via wsjt-devel
@lists.sourceforge.net] Sent: maanantai 10. huhtikuuta 2023 17.00 To: Reino Talarmo via wsjt-devel Cc: Black Michael Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Truncated Waterfall Display "Feature" -24 is not the minimum SNR reported. -30 is. Below -24 is pretty rare though and is a big "knee"in

Re: [wsjt-devel] Truncated Waterfall Display "Feature"

2023-04-10 Thread Black Michael via wsjt-devel
se out. 73, Reino OH3mA -Original Message- From: Sam W2JDB via wsjt-devel [mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net] Sent: maanantai 10. huhtikuuta 2023 14.38 To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Cc: Sam W2JDB Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Truncated Waterfall Display "Feature" Hi

Re: [wsjt-devel] Truncated Waterfall Display "Feature"

2023-04-10 Thread Reino Talarmo via wsjt-devel
nt, when I leave those out. 73, Reino OH3mA -Original Message- From: Sam W2JDB via wsjt-devel [mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net] Sent: maanantai 10. huhtikuuta 2023 14.38 To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Cc: Sam W2JDB Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Truncated Waterfall Display &qu

Re: [wsjt-devel] Truncated Waterfall Display "Feature"

2023-04-10 Thread Sam W2JDB via wsjt-devel
and standard deviation values.  73, Sam W2JDB -Original Message- From: Reino Talarmo via wsjt-devel To: 'WSJT software development' Cc: Reino Talarmo Sent: Mon, Apr 10, 2023 3:33 am Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Truncated Waterfall Display "Feature" Hi, Just as pro

Re: [wsjt-devel] Truncated Waterfall Display "Feature"

2023-04-10 Thread Reino Talarmo via wsjt-devel
Hi, Just as promised, I looked what happens, when I set waterfall from 200 Hz to 1500 Hz (just bit more). The measurement was a side result of a study how a narrower radio filter affects to the S/N values. I have two similar receivers and I feed the same antenna signal via a power divider to th

Re: [wsjt-devel] Truncated Waterfall Display "Feature"

2023-04-08 Thread Jim Shorney via wsjt-devel
Just as a minor data point the waterfall does not necessarily need to fit the monitor. On my laptop on the shack I have the waterfall extended to over 4000 Hz and the rightmost portion is usually off my screen to the right. If I want to see what is up there I just drag the window to the left b

Re: [wsjt-devel] Truncated Waterfall Display "Feature"

2023-04-08 Thread Sam W2JDB via wsjt-devel
;WSJT software development' Cc: Reino Talarmo Sent: Sat, Apr 8, 2023 3:45 am Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Truncated Waterfall Display "Feature" Hi All,You may discuss different issues! In FT8 mode Sam is correct as the signals are reached only on the frequencies displayed on the waterf

Re: [wsjt-devel] Truncated Waterfall Display "Feature"

2023-04-08 Thread Reino Talarmo via wsjt-devel
W2JDB' ; 'WSJT software development' Cc: k2...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Truncated Waterfall Display "Feature" Hi Sam. Well, try it. It does work. The only requirement is to have the decode window width wide enough to cover the actual frequency that is

Re: [wsjt-devel] Truncated Waterfall Display "Feature"

2023-04-07 Thread k2txb--- via wsjt-devel
back on the moon sometime in the next week or two. 73, Russ K2TXB From: Sam W2JDB via wsjt-devel Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2023 3:23 PM To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Cc: Sam W2JDB Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Truncated Waterfall Display "Feature" Hi Russ, I don

Re: [wsjt-devel] Truncated Waterfall Display "Feature"

2023-04-05 Thread Reino Talarmo via wsjt-devel
chael' ; 'WSJT software development' Cc: k2...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Truncated Waterfall Display "Feature" Sorry folks, I agree it would seem that way. But only because there is no way to set the decoding window if you cannot see it. I did not thi

Re: [wsjt-devel] Truncated Waterfall Display "Feature"

2023-04-05 Thread Sam W2JDB via wsjt-devel
ednesday, April 5, 2023 12:47 PM To: k2txb--- via wsjt-devel Cc: Black Michael Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Truncated Waterfall Display "Feature"  Not true -- you only decode what's in the waterfall.  Mike W9MDB    On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 11:41:35 AM CDT, k2txb--- via wsjt-

Re: [wsjt-devel] Truncated Waterfall Display "Feature"

2023-04-05 Thread k2txb--- via wsjt-devel
Cc: Black Michael Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Truncated Waterfall Display "Feature" Not true -- you only decode what's in the waterfall. Mike W9MDB On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 11:41:35 AM CDT, k2txb--- via wsjt-devel mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> >

Re: [wsjt-devel] Truncated Waterfall Display "Feature"

2023-04-05 Thread Dwayne Sinclair via wsjt-devel
Just to add, It would seem to be the intuitive fix would be Start and End Hz as options in the controls or Settings Menu defaulting to 0Hz and 3000Hz and not affected by Bin/Pixel setting or how far the window is stretched. 73 Dwayne AB6A > On Apr 5, 2023, at 10:19 AM, Dwayne Sinclair wrote:

Re: [wsjt-devel] Truncated Waterfall Display "Feature"

2023-04-05 Thread Dwayne Sinclair via wsjt-devel
I agree but it is not intuitive that Start Hz is an option in the controls, but end Hz is controlled by Bin Pixels and how far the op stretches the window. 73 Dwayne AB6A > On Apr 5, 2023, at 10:13 AM, Reino Talarmo via wsjt-devel > wrote: > > Perhaps also reading User Guide 6.2. Wide Graph

Re: [wsjt-devel] Truncated Waterfall Display "Feature"

2023-04-05 Thread Reino Talarmo via wsjt-devel
Dwayne Sinclair via wsjt-devel [mailto:wsjt- > de...@lists.sourceforge.net] > Sent: 5. huhtikuutata 2023 19:59 > To: WSJT software development > Cc: Dwayne Sinclair > Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Truncated Waterfall Display "Feature" > > Go ahead and test for yours

Re: [wsjt-devel] Truncated Waterfall Display "Feature"

2023-04-05 Thread Dwayne Sinclair via wsjt-devel
Go ahead and test for yourself - Change bin/pixel to 1 displaying say only the first 600Hz and see what your decodes look like. 73 Dwayne AB6A > On Apr 5, 2023, at 9:37 AM, k2txb--- via wsjt-devel > wrote: > > Dwane, I am almost certain that your assumption in incorrect. For WSJT in > gener

Re: [wsjt-devel] Truncated Waterfall Display "Feature"

2023-04-05 Thread Black Michael via wsjt-devel
Not true -- you only decode what's in the waterfall. Mike W9MDB On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 11:41:35 AM CDT, k2txb--- via wsjt-devel wrote: Dwane, I am almost certain that your assumption in incorrect.  For WSJT in general, it does not matter what the settings for the waterfall dis

Re: [wsjt-devel] Truncated Waterfall Display "Feature"

2023-04-05 Thread k2txb--- via wsjt-devel
Dwane, I am almost certain that your assumption in incorrect. For WSJT in general, it does not matter what the settings for the waterfall display are set to. They have nothing to do with decoding, they provide only visual signal recognition. So, if there is a decodable signal above the 1500 H

Re: [wsjt-devel] Truncated Waterfall Display "Feature"

2023-04-05 Thread Black Michael via wsjt-devel
I would tend to agree that the default window size should be 3000Hz as opposed to what is now.Then let the user adjust it from there.  I've seen many operators with incorrect window size usually because the default is too narrow. Mike W9MDB On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 10:43:31 AM CDT, Dwa