Re: to-be-named

2013-12-31 Thread Dominique Michel
Le Tue, 31 Dec 2013 18:40:50 +0100, Andrea Zanellato a écrit : > Il 31/12/2013 14:25, Eike Hein ha scritto: > > On Tuesday 31 December 2013 14:22:14 Andrea Zanellato wrote: > >> Thanks for the quick reply. > >> I meant as global standard, not DE specific, maybe I miss some > >> rationale about gl

Re: to-be-named

2013-12-31 Thread Andrea Zanellato
Il 31/12/2013 14:25, Eike Hein ha scritto: On Tuesday 31 December 2013 14:22:14 Andrea Zanellato wrote: Thanks for the quick reply. I meant as global standard, not DE specific, maybe I miss some rationale about global naming and DE specific? No, I'm just providing a data point. It's useful when

Re: Desktop file spec improvements (was: Binary name in the desktop file)

2013-12-31 Thread Jerome Leclanche
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Jasper St. Pierre wrote: > On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 6:12 AM, Jerome Leclanche wrote: >> >> So that detail should be in the menu spec, not the desktop file spec. >> I see no mention of TryExec in >> http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/menu-spec-1.0.html > > >

Re: Desktop file spec improvements (was: Binary name in the desktop file)

2013-12-31 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 6:12 AM, Jerome Leclanche wrote: > So that detail should be in the menu spec, not the desktop file spec. > I see no mention of TryExec in > http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/menu-spec-1.0.html > Speaking with my GNOME hat on, GNOME is now ignoring the menu spec u

Re: Desktop file spec improvements (was: Binary name in the desktop file)

2013-12-31 Thread Ryan Lortie
hi, On Tue, Dec 31, 2013, at 6:05, David Faure wrote: > So there is a valid use case for TryExec, but indeed we shouldn't > recommend > every application to use it, that would be wasteful and unnecessary. This is exactly correct. Cheers ___ xdg mailin

Re: to-be-named

2013-12-31 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
Is there a common or well-known icon metaphor for Suspend, Hibernate, or Switch User? Both Windows 7 and OS X seem to use text labels from what I've seen. On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Andrea Zanellato wrote: > Il 31/12/2013 15:11, Matthias Klumpp ha scritto: > > 2013/12/31 Eike Hein : >> >

Re: to-be-named

2013-12-31 Thread Andrea Zanellato
Il 31/12/2013 15:11, Matthias Klumpp ha scritto: 2013/12/31 Eike Hein : On Tuesday 31 December 2013 14:22:14 Andrea Zanellato wrote: Thanks for the quick reply. I meant as global standard, not DE specific, maybe I miss some rationale about global naming and DE specific? No, I'm just providing

Re: to-be-named

2013-12-31 Thread Matthias Klumpp
2013/12/31 Eike Hein : > On Tuesday 31 December 2013 14:22:14 Andrea Zanellato wrote: >> Thanks for the quick reply. >> I meant as global standard, not DE specific, maybe I miss some rationale >> about global naming and DE specific? > > No, I'm just providing a data point. It's useful when specs >

Re: to-be-named

2013-12-31 Thread Eike Hein
On Tuesday 31 December 2013 14:22:14 Andrea Zanellato wrote: > Thanks for the quick reply. > I meant as global standard, not DE specific, maybe I miss some rationale > about global naming and DE specific? No, I'm just providing a data point. It's useful when specs reflect what's already being used

Re: to-be-named

2013-12-31 Thread Eike Hein
On Tuesday 31 December 2013 14:11:58 Andrea Zanellato wrote: > Hi, > I'm new here so sorry if I bother with some old request: > is there any plan to add some system-hibernate, system-suspend and maybe > a system-switch-user action icons? KDE currently ships: - system-suspend - system-suspend-hiber

Re: to-be-named

2013-12-31 Thread Andrea Zanellato
Il 31/12/2013 14:18, Eike Hein ha scritto: On Tuesday 31 December 2013 14:11:58 Andrea Zanellato wrote: Hi, I'm new here so sorry if I bother with some old request: is there any plan to add some system-hibernate, system-suspend and maybe a system-switch-user action icons? KDE currently ships: -

to-be-named

2013-12-31 Thread Andrea Zanellato
Hi, I'm new here so sorry if I bother with some old request: is there any plan to add some system-hibernate, system-suspend and maybe a system-switch-user action icons? Regards, Andrea ___ xdg mailing list xdg@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freede

Re: Desktop file spec improvements (was: Binary name in the desktop file)

2013-12-31 Thread Jerome Leclanche
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 11:05 AM, David Faure wrote: > On Tuesday 31 December 2013 11:00:23 Jerome Leclanche wrote: >> On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 10:55 AM, David Faure wrote: >> > On Tuesday 31 December 2013 05:44:12 Ryan Lortie wrote: >> >> hi, >> >> >> >> On Tue, Dec 31, 2013, at 5:39, David Faure

Re: Desktop file spec improvements (was: Binary name in the desktop file)

2013-12-31 Thread David Faure
On Tuesday 31 December 2013 11:00:23 Jerome Leclanche wrote: > On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 10:55 AM, David Faure wrote: > > On Tuesday 31 December 2013 05:44:12 Ryan Lortie wrote: > >> hi, > >> > >> On Tue, Dec 31, 2013, at 5:39, David Faure wrote: > >> > It is missing in many many > >> > .desktop >

Re: Desktop file spec improvements (was: Binary name in the desktop file)

2013-12-31 Thread Jerome Leclanche
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 10:55 AM, David Faure wrote: > On Tuesday 31 December 2013 05:44:12 Ryan Lortie wrote: >> hi, >> >> On Tue, Dec 31, 2013, at 5:39, David Faure wrote: >> > It is missing in many many >> > .desktop >> > files, but this means solving this doesn't require a change in the spec,

Re: Desktop file spec improvements (was: Binary name in the desktop file)

2013-12-31 Thread David Faure
On Tuesday 31 December 2013 05:44:12 Ryan Lortie wrote: > hi, > > On Tue, Dec 31, 2013, at 5:39, David Faure wrote: > > It is missing in many many > > .desktop > > files, but this means solving this doesn't require a change in the spec, > > it > > only requires everyone to add that TryExec key in

Re: Masking in the MIME magic spec

2013-12-31 Thread David Faure
Bastien, Ryan, could someone review the (old) patch I wrote for update-mime-database.c in the attached email? The commit log would be "apply mask to the expected value, to simplify implementations (and reduce risks of errors)". -- David Faure, fa...@kde.org, http://www.davidfaure.fr Working on

Re: Desktop file spec improvements (was: Binary name in the desktop file)

2013-12-31 Thread Ryan Lortie
hi, On Tue, Dec 31, 2013, at 5:39, David Faure wrote: > It is missing in many many > .desktop > files, but this means solving this doesn't require a change in the spec, > it > only requires everyone to add that TryExec key in most desktop files. TryExec has a negative performance implication: y

Re: Desktop file spec improvements (was: Binary name in the desktop file)

2013-12-31 Thread David Faure
On Sunday 29 December 2013 14:11:03 Ryan Lortie wrote: > To me this looks like a really large amount of added complexity for > little gain. I agree. Plus, having two complex commands in ExecWithNoFiles and ExecWithFiles doesn't even help "looking up applications by executable name" (the use case

Re: Question on desktop file exec lines

2013-12-31 Thread David Faure
On Monday 23 December 2013 09:38:02 Jerome Leclanche wrote: > See: http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/ar01s06.html > > I think I already know the answer to both but I'd like to double-check. > > 1) When dealing with desktop files that have %u or %U in the name, if > the ar