Re: [XeTeX] experimental new xetex version - with margin-kerning support

2010-05-04 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Tue, May 04, 2010 at 05:14:21PM -0400, maxwell wrote: > On Tue, 4 May 2010 21:39:58 +0100, Jonathan Kew > wrote: > > The keywords used to specify \lpcode and \rpcode values for native-font > > glyphs have been changed ... > > Since as I understand it, it's necessary to list each character that

Re: [XeTeX] experimental new xetex version - with margin-kerning support

2010-05-04 Thread maxwell
On Tue, 4 May 2010 21:39:58 +0100, Jonathan Kew wrote: > The keywords used to specify \lpcode and \rpcode values for native-font > glyphs have been changed ... Since as I understand it, it's necessary to list each character that one wants to allow to protrude, and since there's probably a lot of

Re: [XeTeX] experimental new xetex version - with margin-kerning support

2010-05-04 Thread Jonathan Kew
For those experimenting with this: I have just updated the microtype branch again, to v0.9997.0. The keywords used to specify \lpcode and \rpcode values for native-font glyphs have been changed to be more concise, and also more similar to forms used in other contexts. Unicode character codes ar

Re: [XeTeX] experimental new xetex version - with margin-kerning support

2010-05-04 Thread William Adams
On May 3, 2010, at 8:56 AM, Avi Wollman wrote: > I would love to try this out, but i work using miktex2.8 on a windows 7(64) > where are instructions how to compile this (or even better download a build) > on the MS platform ? xetex-dev is available from: http://www.w32tex.org/ w/ information

Re: [XeTeX] experimental new xetex version - with margin-kerning support

2010-05-03 Thread Barry MacKichan
Possibly I don't understand it, but my impression is that font expansion becomes another parameter to vary in the paragraph layout routine. I can't see how it can be otherwise given that applying font expansion can change the line breaks in a paragraph. I can see how that optimization routine has b

Re: [XeTeX] experimental new xetex version - with margin-kerning support

2010-05-03 Thread Avi Wollman
I would love to try this out, but i work using miktex2.8 on a windows 7(64) where are instructions how to compile this (or even better download a build) on the MS platform ? Avi On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 2:12 AM, Jonathan Kew wrote: > For those who like to live on the cutting (bleeding?) edge, the

Re: [XeTeX] experimental new xetex version - with margin-kerning support

2010-05-03 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Sun, May 02, 2010 at 10:06:31PM -0400, David J. Perry wrote: > Jonathan, > > This is great news--thank you! There is also an OpenType feature > called Optical Bounds that is designed to do exactly this. My > understanding is that very few, if any, page layout programs support > this feature.

Re: [XeTeX] experimental new xetex version - with margin-kerning support

2010-05-03 Thread Martin Schröder
2010/5/3 Barry MacKichan : > Now that that has sunk in ;-) can I ask about the other feature of > PDFTeX, namely the ability to improve line breaking by (to my eye) > undetectable changes in the font size for a paragraph? Is there any plan > to port this to XeTeX? IMHO that will be much harder, si

Re: [XeTeX] experimental new xetex version - with margin-kerning support

2010-05-03 Thread Michiel Kamermans
On 5/3/2010 2:00 AM, John Was wrote: Excellent - does this mean that custom kerning from within XeTeX is moving up the 'to-do' list? It seems to me to be in the same general area (aesthetically though perhaps not technically): one wants to fine-tune the spacing behaviour of specific chara

Re: [XeTeX] experimental new xetex version - with margin-kerning support

2010-05-03 Thread John Was
Excellent - does this mean that custom kerning from within XeTeX is moving up the 'to-do' list? It seems to me to be in the same general area (aesthetically though perhaps not technically): one wants to fine-tune the spacing behaviour of specific characters from within the program rather t

Re: [XeTeX] experimental new xetex version - with margin-kerning support

2010-05-02 Thread David J. Perry
Jonathan, This is great news--thank you! There is also an OpenType feature called Optical Bounds that is designed to do exactly this. My understanding is that very few, if any, page layout programs support this feature. Maybe XeTeX should be cutting-edge in this regard also? FontForge does

Re: [XeTeX] experimental new xetex version - with margin-kerning support

2010-05-02 Thread Barry MacKichan
Many thanks to you and Han The Thanh. Now that that has sunk in ;-) can I ask about the other feature of PDFTeX, namely the ability to improve line breaking by (to my eye) undetectable changes in the font size for a paragraph? Is there any plan to port this to XeTeX? In my opinion, once that is d