[xmail] Vanishing mails?

2007-04-26 Thread Tracy
I have a user who is telling me that they attempted to send email to various places and the emails are simply vanishing. One of the places is to the place they work, and another was to Yahoo. I've looked in my logs, and I see the mail coming into my server (verified by the SMTP logs showing

[xmail] Re: Vanishing mails?

2007-04-26 Thread Ivo Smits
This sounds like hotmail-policy. E-mail that may be spam, can just vanish, even when it has been accepted by their SMTP server, and there was no failure report at all. What can you do about this? I still don't really know. You should at least check that the HELO-domain is valid, does not

[xmail] Re: Vanishing mails?

2007-04-26 Thread Tracy
Local mail server configuration is reasonably correct. The HELO domain setting is a valid FQDN and looking up that FQDN gives the IP address of the mail server. I deliver mail from other users to Yahoo (no one else on my server sends email to this particular user's place of business) without

[xmail] Re: Dynamic DNS

2007-04-26 Thread Robert Schiffman
If you are on Verizon DSL they should also provide you with email accounts. If this is so, you could use their mail server as a gateway for your mail server. I've done this in the past with a DSL provider. Edmonds, J.B. wrote: Excuse me if this is a worn out topic but until recently I had no

[xmail] Re: Vanishing mails?

2007-04-26 Thread Ivo Smits
What OS do you use on your mailserver? You can use tcpdump (on linux) or WireShark (windows and linux) to capture the SMTP session with the remote SMTP server, and see all the response codes and commands from both sides. Ivo - Original Message - From: Tracy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

[xmail] Re: Dynamic DNS

2007-04-26 Thread Ivo Smits
Rollernet (http://www.rollernet.us/) can provide you with outgoing SMTP relay services (not free). Your ISP may also provide you with some (usually free) email relay. It may even be possible (I'm not sure about this) to get some static IP address, over a VPN connection. Ivo - Original

[xmail] Re: Vanishing mails?

2007-04-26 Thread Bart Mortelmans
As far as I know, the SMAIL log will only show an SMTP-line for e-mails that where successfully delivered on the other end. So basically, the fact that your SMAIL log contains such a line, means that Yahoo accepted the email and that it was lost on their side... Sincerely, Bart Mortelmans

[xmail] Re: Dynamic DNS

2007-04-26 Thread CLEMENT Francis
Just notice that using a 'external' relay server (even if it is your = own isp) can also be denies at final destination servers if the external = relay server is not declared in some way to be 'legitimate' to send mails of behalf of the sending domain (I have in mind spf for example). So the relay

[xmail] Re: xmail doc about smtpgw.tab/smtpfwd.tab files descriptions

2007-04-26 Thread Davide Libenzi
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007, CLEMENT Francis wrote: Hello Davide Just a question about smtpgw.tab and smtpfwd.tab in doc For smtpfwd.tab file, doc says to refer to [SMTP GATEWAY CONFIGURATION] section for additionnal parameters (NeedTLS, and OutBind actually) For smtpgw.tab file, there is no

[xmail] Re: Testing after 1.24

2007-04-26 Thread Davide Libenzi
On Thu, 26 Apr 2007, Edinilson - ATINET wrote: This is a test because, for some reason, I´m not receiving messages from Xmail´s list after upgrade to 1.24. Roger this. - Davide - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For

[xmail] Re: Vanishing mails?

2007-04-26 Thread Tracy
Running Xmail 1.24 on Windows 2000 Server. I have enough traffic that logging all the mail sessions would become quite disk intensive. I think I'd rather pursue other alternatives before resorting to that (if I need to go that route, I can always crank up ethereal and just sit and watch...)

[xmail] Re: Vanishing mails?

2007-04-26 Thread Tracy
Davide Libenzi wrote: A record is logged inside the SMAIL log, *only if* the remote MTA returned a 2xx response at the end of the DATA transaction. At that point, it is the remote MTA responsibility to ensure the message is delivered through the next steps. Thanks, Davide. I thought

[xmail] Re: Dynamic DNS / Don't use SPF

2007-04-26 Thread Ivo Smits
Someone pointed out that SPF may cause other problems. A recent example: I ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) tried to email some abuse department, [EMAIL PROTECTED] This address was redirected to [EMAIL PROTECTED] My server delivers my email to MX1.example.com, which redirects the email. MX1.isp.com sees a

[xmail] Re: Vanishing mails?

2007-04-26 Thread Ivo Smits
Ethereal is now WireShark ;) You can filter on the SMTP port (TCP 25), and the right host (MX addresses of yahoo/the other domain). This results in something like (tcpdump / low level ethereal filter): tcp port 25 and (host a.mx.mail.yahoo.com or host b.mx.mail.yahoo.com or host