[xmail] Re: hidden copy - recent supreme court decision

2005-12-15 Thread Jeff Buehler
Yeah, sorry about the soapbox (I had just woken up when I wrote that so I was on a bit of a soapbox - my apologies!) Issues like the one you are in are always quite complicated to resolve, and nothing is ever black and white... Right now in the U.S. these sorts of issues are really in my face

[xmail] Re: hidden copy - recent supreme court decision

2005-12-15 Thread Vidmantas
Jeff, I understand moral situation quite enough and I'm not looking positive to the things like spying on people's letters. I'm asked to make possibility to realize such things, not to start spying right now. Boss will make decision. Since I'm just IT engineer, not boss or similar, I don't kno

[xmail] Re: hidden copy - recent supreme court decision

2005-12-15 Thread Jeff Buehler
Who cares about the law? What about your own sense of moral culpability? Sure, it's your job, and it's hard to tell your paycheck to f-off, but spying on people is spying on people. Life is short and there are a lot of ways to make money - the one thing you can keep to the grave is your bel

[xmail] Re: hidden copy - recent supreme court decision

2005-12-15 Thread Leonardo Fogel
--- Helio Cavichiolo Jr wrote: > That's a great idea, but perhaps not enough. Here in > Brazil, as in France, the > law don't allow mail violation. News about the topic: "The decision of the TST [brazilian supreme court of labour] was favourable to HSBC, under the argumentation that 'the ente

[xmail] Re: hidden copy

2005-12-15 Thread Helio Cavichiolo Jr
Em Qui 15 Dez 2005 08:16, Filip Supera escreveu: > And, I would suggest to warn users that their mail might be read by > boss. This would be a good way to avoid abuse :-) That's a great idea, but perhaps not enough. Here in Brazil, as in France, the law don't allow mail violation. The same law u

[xmail] Re: hidden copy

2005-12-15 Thread Filip Supera
Vidmantas a écrit : > good idea, but in my country (Lithuania) such cases are not clearly > described in law. > But I'll ask him for written form of his wishes :) And, I would suggest to warn users that their mail might be read by boss. This would be a good way to avoid abuse :-) - To unsubscr

[xmail] Re: hidden copy

2005-12-15 Thread Vidmantas
CLEMENT Francis wrote: >> -Message d'origine- >> De : Vidmantas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Envoyé : jeudi 15 décembre 2005 10:07 >> À : xmail@xmailserver.org >> Objet : [xmail] Re: hidden copy >> >> >> >> CLEMENT Francis

[xmail] Re: hidden copy

2005-12-15 Thread CLEMENT Francis
> -Message d'origine- > De : Vidmantas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Envoyé : jeudi 15 décembre 2005 10:07 > À : xmail@xmailserver.org > Objet : [xmail] Re: hidden copy > > > > CLEMENT Francis wrote: > > Are you sure it's legal in your country ?

[xmail] Re: hidden copy

2005-12-15 Thread Vidmantas
CLEMENT Francis wrote: > Are you sure it's legal in your country ? > > I urge you to have a written query from your boss has you could be in > trouble doing this without final user knowledge ! > > Get in mind 'privacy' (in France, bosses can't do this even on > 'professional' usage mailboxs ... on

[xmail] Re: hidden copy

2005-12-15 Thread CLEMENT Francis
Are you sure it's legal in your country ? I urge you to have a written query from your boss has you could be in trouble doing this without final user knowledge ! Get in mind 'privacy' (in France, bosses can't do this even on 'professional' usage mailboxs ... only admin can read, on demand mails