Re: X11 fullscreen

2010-01-29 Thread Olivier Galibert
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 06:34:37PM +0600, Mikhail Gusarov wrote: > > Twas brillig at 23:29:43 29.01.2010 UTC+11 when rjs...@netspace.net.au did > gyre and gimble: > > RS> xcb is designed to preserve the Xlib api. I prefer to architect > RS> things completely new and efficient. > > Laughed out

Re: Documentation?

2009-04-09 Thread Olivier Galibert
On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 09:31:01AM -0400, Jim Gettys wrote: > If you look at our paper here: > > http://keithp.com/~keithp/talks/usenix2003/ > > You'll discover that the font metadata turned out to be as large as > the glyphs actually used. > > And client side fonts with server caching therefore

Re: Documentation?

2009-04-09 Thread Olivier Galibert
On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 02:25:14PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote: > > => there can't be that many applications using it if it was moving all the > > time > > So the fact there are lots of applications using it should have told you > that your interpretations were suspect If the cairo website gives a lis

Re: Documentation?

2009-04-09 Thread Olivier Galibert
On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 02:05:51PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote: > Each to their own, I know which I find easier to read and I know what > extensive studies say people prefer as well. To each their own indeed. > Also be careful with the images to view them full size - if your browser > is scaling them

Re: Documentation?

2009-04-09 Thread Olivier Galibert
On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 11:31:18AM +0100, Alan Cox wrote: > If any of the words I have used are too long please ask for help. In-ter-fwhat? Oh, fuck it, I'll go get a beer instead. Seriously, let's go back to that sentence again: "Please download one of the latest releases in order to get an A

Re: Documentation?

2009-04-09 Thread Olivier Galibert
On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 12:35:32PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote: > On Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:22:45 +1000 > Torgeir Veimo wrote: > > > 2009/4/9 Alan Cox > > > > > For proving fancy anti-aliasing isn't just for new apps or integrating it > > > into old ones, KeithP's rework of twm with render is glorious...

Re: Documentation?

2009-04-08 Thread Olivier Galibert
On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 07:13:58PM -0400, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: > xmms never compiled against any gtk2 version. It was written to use gtk > 1.2, and happily compiles and runs against that today. gtk 1.x and gtk2 > are two different libraries and packaged separately in all distributions. That'

Re: PseudoColor and DirectColor visuals (was Re: Documentation?)

2009-04-08 Thread Olivier Galibert
On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 07:00:02PM -0400, Patrick O'Donnell wrote: > Speaking of which -- the applications I'm maintaining are wedded to > using a writable color map, which has always been PseudoColor, which, > as you point out, pretty much means 8-bit. I've been toying with > expanding the apps'

Re: Documentation?

2009-04-08 Thread Olivier Galibert
On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 06:32:09PM -0400, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: > This may as well be called joke of the year. Funny, I thought my only 4-years-old xmms-1.2.11 didn't compile with gtk+-2.14.7. Please, do tell me what I do wrong? OG. ___ xorg mailing

Re: Documentation?

2009-04-08 Thread Olivier Galibert
On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 12:20:04AM +0200, Olivier Galibert wrote: > On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 11:47:28PM +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > > I don't think anyone here can promise you any given piece of software > > will last 15 years, but given GTK and Firefox use Cairo (gecko not

Re: Documentation?

2009-04-08 Thread Olivier Galibert
On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 11:47:28PM +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > I don't think anyone here can promise you any given piece of software > will last 15 years, but given GTK and Firefox use Cairo (gecko not > widget-side only), OpenOffice.org is being converted to use it, and > they're all massive c

Re: Documentation?

2009-04-08 Thread Olivier Galibert
On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 10:15:44PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote: > Again compositing handles this cleanly and elegantly, and you can use > compositing solely for simple 2D resource buffering and management far > more effectively without breaking everything else interesting. That would be something intere

Re: Documentation?

2009-04-08 Thread Olivier Galibert
On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 10:37:27PM +0200, Stephane Marchesin wrote: > I never saw any of the people who complain here submit a single patch > for their issues, yet they are very quick to complain for every change > they don't like. > Since you don't submit patches, that means one of three things:

Re: Documentation?

2009-04-08 Thread Olivier Galibert
On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 10:36:13PM +0200, Stephane Marchesin wrote: > I agree with you. If you're too lazy and do not have enough dedication > to create an account on our bugzilla to file a proper bug report, > you're probably not going to follow-up when we send patches/fixes your > way. So I say y

Re: Documentation?

2009-04-08 Thread Olivier Galibert
On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 09:28:47PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote: > > Dropping support for automatic backing store while at the same pushing > > for a design, composite, that is all backing store all the time means > > one of three things : lazyness, incompetence, or a big honking design > > issue in the s

Re: Documentation?

2009-04-08 Thread Olivier Galibert
On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 12:55:09PM -0700, Corbin Simpson wrote: > Write an application that understands that backing store is an > optimization that the server may not actually honor, and no pain would > have ever befallen you. You could say the exact same thing of pixmaps. After all, an implemen

Re: Documentation?

2009-04-07 Thread Olivier Galibert
On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 02:32:38PM +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > Fontconfig-using apps do not crash for lack of fonts, because > fontconfig has built-in font substitution Nice theory. Kinda breaks down when you find out that pango_font_metrics_get_approximate_char_width answers 0 on such a subt

Re: Modeline autoadjusting problem

2008-12-18 Thread Olivier Galibert
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 03:47:23PM -0500, Marc Ferland wrote: > Seems like the modeline is adjusted by the driver _even_ if I specified the > LVDSFixedMode "false" option. I really don't know what to do next... How can > I force my modeline to the driver? You can't. Looking at the code, there i

Re: X12 [wasRe: Zoom Support]

2008-12-18 Thread Olivier Galibert
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 06:02:33PM +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > Layout and language are closely related. Basically for a globalized > user that types in multiple languages, you have two situations : > 1. If his current layout is sufficient for the other language, he will > perform a language shi

Re: X12 [wasRe: Zoom Support]

2008-12-18 Thread Olivier Galibert
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 02:51:52PM +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > I hope that when XI and XKB are reworked a "language" property will be > added to the protocol. > > Right now many apps try to infer the language being written from the > xkb layout in use (for on the fly spellchecking, activation

Re: [newb] Will xorg still allow non-hal config?

2008-12-01 Thread Olivier Galibert
On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 02:05:24PM +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > > > Le Lun 1 décembre 2008 13:44, Olivier Galibert a écrit : > > > > On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 01:40:57PM +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > >> As usual, people who care about something are free to

Re: [newb] Will xorg still allow non-hal config?

2008-12-01 Thread Olivier Galibert
On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 01:40:57PM +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > As usual, people who care about something are free to maintain it in > good shape, since this is how free software works. What is there to maintain, exactly? OG. ___ xorg mailing list

Re: [newb] Will xorg still allow non-hal config?

2008-12-01 Thread Olivier Galibert
On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 01:15:05PM +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > BTW now that almost all the X userspace has been converted to use > fontconfig and modern TrueType/OpenType fonts, I expect the level of > attention fonts in legacy bitmap format receive to drop sharply, which > will ultimately lead