[Xpert]adding more keyboards and mice

2002-05-22 Thread dvorakv
Hello Xperts, how hard would it be to add more keyboards and mice to XFree, each delivering events to a different screen, thus enabling a full local multiuser setup? Is there any reason why this couldn't be implemented? Vaclav Dvorak [EMAIL PROTECTED] IDAS, s.r.o.http://www.idas.cz ___

Re: [Xpert]adding more keyboards and mice

2002-05-23 Thread John Tapsell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 22 May 2002 9:36 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello Xperts, > > how hard would it be to add more keyboards and mice to XFree, each > delivering events to a different screen, thus enabling a full local > multiuser setup? Is there any rea

Re: [Xpert]adding more keyboards and mice

2002-05-23 Thread Dr Andrew C Aitchison
On Thu, 23 May 2002, John Tapsell wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Wednesday 22 May 2002 9:36 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hello Xperts, > > > > how hard would it be to add more keyboards and mice to XFree, each > > delivering events to a different screen, thus

Re: [Xpert]adding more keyboards and mice

2002-05-23 Thread dvorakv
> > how hard would it be to add more keyboards and mice to XFree, each > > delivering events to a different screen, thus enabling a full local > > multiuser setup? Is there any reason why this couldn't be implemented? > > This question has come up every month or so as far back as I can remember.

Re: [Xpert]adding more keyboards and mice

2002-05-23 Thread dvorakv
> > > how hard would it be to add more keyboards and mice to XFree, each > > > delivering events to a different screen, thus enabling a full local > > > multiuser setup? Is there any reason why this couldn't be implemented? > > > > This question has come up every month or so as far back as I can r

Re: [Xpert]adding more keyboards and mice

2002-05-23 Thread Matt Piechota
On Thu, 23 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Nicer? I don't think so. What's cheaper, smaller, easier - a VGA and a > monitor, or a case, power supply, mainboard, CPU, memory, ethernet, > the electricity it eats, the noise it generates, the cables it needs, > a VGA and a monitor? Of course, bot

Re: [Xpert]adding more keyboards and mice

2002-05-23 Thread Andrew Clayton
On Thu, 2002-05-23 at 22:28, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > how hard would it be to add more keyboards and mice to XFree, each > > > > delivering events to a different screen, thus enabling a full local > > > > multiuser setup? Is there any reason why this couldn't be implemented? > > > > > Are

Re: [Xpert]adding more keyboards and mice

2002-05-23 Thread Trent Whaley
<< Quotes come from several messages on this thread. > The way I see is providing multiple event queues, one for each user > (=screen, or even set of screens), and attach one keyboard and one > mouse to each queue. And make one mouse cursor for each queue. I'm > probably missing something importa

Re: [Xpert]adding more keyboards and mice

2002-05-23 Thread Dr Andrew C Aitchison
On Thu, 23 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I think a better way would be to use only one instance of XFree, have > it handle multiple monitors (that already works just fine!) WITHOUT > Xinerama, and add more event queues, each for one screen/user. And of > course, add support for multiple (US

Re: [Xpert]adding more keyboards and mice

2002-05-23 Thread John Tapsell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > Are you aware of the linuxconsole project at > linuxconsole.sourceforge.net, looks like this kind of thing is included > in thier plans. Stuff is already getting merged into the 2.5 development > kernels. Several years ago (jeez, that long.. how ti

Re: [Xpert]adding more keyboards and mice

2002-05-23 Thread John Tapsell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 24 May 2002 1:10 am, Trent wrote: > > 2) Some way for one unix user, but two human users to use the machine. > > I.e. two ppl share a desktop. I would like this so that I can work on > > one half one monitor, and gf on other monitor, then i

Re: [Xpert]adding more keyboards and mice

2002-05-23 Thread Trent Whaley
... > > > I.e. two ppl share a desktop. ... >> > > Run one VNCServer so two people can view it ... > > Excellent. > > Now, can anyone see a need for two cursors (or seperate keyboards etc) on > one physical display? When using a pen/tablet input device with drawing software and using a mouse for

Re: [Xpert]adding more keyboards and mice

2002-05-24 Thread John Tapsell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > You would be correct, unless someone has written an X server with a VNC > Server built in. Hmm.. have there been any attempts at this? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE87iT9oRvfZQkd7qoRAhvKAJ4tJMMEQcFAB4XPR

Re: [Xpert]adding more keyboards and mice

2002-05-24 Thread dvorakv
> > Are you aware of the linuxconsole project at > > linuxconsole.sourceforge.net, looks like this kind of thing is included > > in thier plans. Stuff is already getting merged into the 2.5 development > > kernels. Hmmm... OK, but this gives us only the VT's, keyboards and mice - the video proble

Re: [Xpert]adding more keyboards and mice

2002-05-24 Thread Trent Whaley
> > Hmmm... OK, but this gives us only the VT's, keyboards and mice - the > video problem is the same, isn't it? That is, unless we want to use > the fbdev, losing all acceleration and support for many cards. Or am > I wrong - is there some acceleration in the framebuffer and its X > driver? You

Re: [Xpert]adding more keyboards and mice

2002-05-24 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Fri, 2002-05-24 at 19:08, Trent Whaley wrote: > > >From `man 5 XF86Config`: > > DEVICE SECTION > ... >BusID "bus-id" > This specifies the bus location of the graphics card. For PCI/AGP >cards, the bus-id string has the form PCI:bus:device:func > tion (e

Re: [Xpert]adding more keyboards and mice

2002-05-24 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Fri, 2002-05-24 at 20:11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Are you aware of the linuxconsole project at > > > linuxconsole.sourceforge.net, looks like this kind of thing is included > > > in thier plans. Stuff is already getting merged into the 2.5 development > > > kernels. > > Hmmm... OK, but

Re: [Xpert]adding more keyboards and mice

2002-05-24 Thread John Tapsell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > There is no accelleration in fbdev. But will there be? Is it possible? btw, whats GGI or whatever it is? JohnFlux -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE87ncYoRvfZQkd7qoRAqxcAKC1Bh9Ruw5Seg0INPkC6W5DChLsSACgoRWd u

Re: [Xpert]adding more keyboards and mice

2002-05-24 Thread Trent Whaley
On May 24, 2002 10:12 am, Michel Dänzer wrote: > On Fri, 2002-05-24 at 19:08, Trent Whaley wrote: > > >From `man 5 XF86Config`: > > > > DEVICE SECTION > > ... > >BusID "bus-id" > > ... > > In other words, all the work involving the Video card is already done. > > Now you are wrong. :) >

Re: [Xpert]adding more keyboards and mice

2002-05-24 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Fri, 2002-05-24 at 19:44, Trent Whaley wrote: > On May 24, 2002 10:12 am, Michel Dänzer wrote: > > On Fri, 2002-05-24 at 19:08, Trent Whaley wrote: > > > >From `man 5 XF86Config`: > > > > > > DEVICE SECTION > > > ... > > >BusID "bus-id" > > > ... > > > In other words, all the work inv

Re: [Xpert]adding more keyboards and mice

2002-05-25 Thread Bharathi S
Hello all, I saw a demo of Linux + XFree86 4.1.0 with 4 DISPLAY( Mon,KB, mouse). All USB KBs are connected to a MiniUSB Hub and Hub is connected to machine, And USB mouses also connected in similar way. At the time booting, they started 4 GDM. Each Display having separate Conf

Re: [Xpert]adding more keyboards and mice

2002-05-27 Thread dvorakv
> > > In other words, all the work involving the Video card is already done. > > > > Now you are wrong. :) > > > > The X server disables video devices it doesn't use. > > DOH! That seems like a really dumb Idea. Is it easy to make it not disable > the other cards? Would that gum up other stuff? I

Re: [Xpert]adding more keyboards and mice

2002-05-27 Thread dvorakv
> > > > In other words, all the work involving the Video card is already done. > > > > > > Now you are wrong. :) > > > > > > The X server disables video devices it doesn't use. > > > > DOH! That seems like a really dumb Idea. Is it easy to make it not disable > > the other cards? Would that gum up

Re: [Xpert]adding more keyboards and mice

2002-05-27 Thread dvorakv
> I saw a demo of Linux + XFree86 4.1.0 > with 4 DISPLAY( Mon,KB, mouse). > > All USB KBs are connected to a MiniUSB Hub and Hub is > connected to machine, And USB mouses also connected in > similar way. Yeah, I have that working too. But next time you see it, try switching to a console

Re: [Xpert]adding more keyboards and mice

2002-05-27 Thread John Tapsell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > So, as I already said, I think some kind of serialization of video > device accesses is needed between the multiple X servers. So who would be qualified to attempt such a thing? Who do we have to beg ? :) >> I saw a demo of Linux + XFree86 4.1.

Re: [Xpert]adding more keyboards and mice

2002-05-27 Thread dvorakv
> > So, as I already said, I think some kind of serialization of video > > device accesses is needed between the multiple X servers. > > So who would be qualified to attempt such a thing? > Who do we have to beg ? :) Well, I'm still hoping that perhaps some XFree Xpert (this is the right mailing

Re: [Xpert]adding more keyboards and mice

2002-05-27 Thread Bharathi S
On Mon, 27 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I saw a demo of Linux + XFree86 4.1.0 > > with 4 DISPLAY( Mon,KB, mouse). > > > Yeah, I have that working too. But next time you see it, try > switching to a console, or running a DGA app... and then run fast. > :-))) Yes i will try :-) w

Re: [Xpert]adding more keyboards and mice

2002-05-28 Thread John Tapsell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 28 May 2002 6:17 am, Bharathi S wrote: > On Mon, 27 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I saw a demo of Linux + XFree86 4.1.0 > > > with 4 DISPLAY( Mon,KB, mouse). > > > > Yeah, I have that working too. But next time you see it, try

Re: [Xpert]adding more keyboards and mice

2002-05-30 Thread dvorakv
> > > So, as I already said, I think some kind of serialization of video > > > device accesses is needed between the multiple X servers. > > > > So who would be qualified to attempt such a thing? > > Who do we have to beg ? :) > > Well, I'm still hoping that perhaps some XFree Xpert (this is the >

Re: [Xpert]adding more keyboards and mice

2002-05-30 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Mon, 2002-05-27 at 19:44, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > In other words, all the work involving the Video card is already done. > > > > > > > > Now you are wrong. :) > > > > > > > > The X server disables video devices it doesn't use. > > > > > > DOH! That seems like a really dumb Idea. Is

Re: [Xpert]adding more keyboards and mice

2002-05-30 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Mon, 2002-05-27 at 19:43, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > In other words, all the work involving the Video card is already done. > > > > > > Now you are wrong. :) > > > > > > The X server disables video devices it doesn't use. > > > > DOH! That seems like a really dumb Idea. Is it easy to mak

Re: [Xpert]adding more keyboards and mice

2002-06-01 Thread igor
Hi Michel! Can you post or move you conversation with Eich to this list? It's interesting for me too ... On Fri, 31 May 2002, Michel D?nzer wrote: > On Mon, 2002-05-27 at 19:44, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > In other words, all the work involving the Video card is already done. > > > > >