Re: [xubuntu-users] The Devil's Advocate

2017-07-13 Thread Joao Monteiro
And since when is capitalism a good thing? A system that puts a price on human life and renders the hypocrates oath of doctors a farse and a charade of hypocrisy, where you can only get medical treatment if you can afford to pay for it? Would like to see you speaking high of greed and capitalism

Re: [xubuntu-users] The Devil's Advocate -- TANSTAAFL AKA "FOSS vs Proprietary"

2017-07-13 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 14:25:03 +0800 Guang Chao wrote: > But on the downside, open source is so fragmented. See how many > distro there are. How many desktop manager. How many projects doing > the same thing. Instead of the large majority focusing on only few > good

Re: [xubuntu-users] The Devil's Advocate

2017-07-13 Thread Guang Chao
On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 7:51 PM, Michael Höhne wrote: > Joao Monteiro wrote: > > > > 99% of humankind's social problems are rooted right there... in greed. > > You're so damn right!!! > But greed is important. That's what makes capitalism effective.

Re: [xubuntu-users] The Devil's Advocate -- TANSTAAFL AKA "FOSS vs Proprietary"

2017-07-13 Thread Guang Chao
On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 3:59 PM, Joao Monteiro wrote: > And that's not a bad thing, Guang, on the contrary variety, choices, > creativity... the very spices of Life itself. > > What is needed is a common base upon which to build all that diversity. > But imagine.

Re: [xubuntu-users] The Devil's Advocate -- TANSTAAFL AKA "FOSS vs Proprietary"

2017-07-13 Thread Joao Monteiro
Got to love your humbleness hahaha... But yeah, I understand what you're saying. But read my idea again please... It's not so far fetched or dreamy as it may sound snd it's doable... if the major players are willing to join efforts to pull it off. A real building with a real setup like

Re: [xubuntu-users] The Devil's Advocate -- TANSTAAFL AKA "FOSS vs Proprietary"

2017-07-13 Thread MR ZenWiz
On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 9:35 AM, Joao Monteiro wrote: > Ohhh I s agree with you both, David & Fred (btw, welcome back David, > hope you are well my friend). > > I have for my whole life stating that the only constant in Life is Change. I > stand for it. > > But

Re: [xubuntu-users] The Devil's Advocate

2017-07-13 Thread fred roller
> On related but not so related. I really hate that 99.99% of laptops now are pre-installed with Windows. And part of the cost of the device came from the OS. 5 years ago, I can still buy laptops without bundled OS and save some $$$. Why is it assumed that all laptop users wants MSWindows?

Re: [xubuntu-users] The Devil's Advocate -- TANSTAAFL AKA "FOSS vs Proprietary"

2017-07-13 Thread fred roller
| What is needed is a common base upon which to build all that diversity. Read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_kernel Linus wrote a kernel to help his students and long story short gave it to the world. The FOSS community adopted it and now we have diversity. The arguments to reduce this

Re: [xubuntu-users] The Devil's Advocate -- TANSTAAFL AKA "FOSS vs Proprietary"

2017-07-13 Thread David Walland
I'd love to get stuck in to writing/proof-reading good docs for the Linux community. I've done this professionally for University Radiation Protection. This the point; the writer/proof-reader needs to have an encyclopaedic knowledge of the subject and/or experts to correct misapprehensions and

Re: [xubuntu-users] The Devil's Advocate

2017-07-13 Thread Joao Monteiro
There is nothing wrong with getting paid for one's work, Guang. What is deplorable is to make of the financial profit the goal, the priority, in detriment of quality, usability, usefulness, consistency, reliability, availability, etc... and of course, in being greedy in the profit itself.. 99% of

Re: [xubuntu-users] The Devil's Advocate

2017-07-13 Thread Guang Chao
On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 2:07 PM, Joao Monteiro wrote: > Hmm... ok, thank you for the clarification, appreciated. > > I usually do exactly that, when I'm at the PC or Laptop. But I'm replying > from my phone, as I have been at work and commuting to and from work and >

Re: [xubuntu-users] The Devil's Advocate -- TANSTAAFL AKA "FOSS vs Proprietary"

2017-07-13 Thread Guang Chao
On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 1:01 PM, Joao Monteiro wrote: > Hi Richard, > > Thanks. Not knocking it, just being realist and aware of my own > limitations - and capabilities alike, of course. > > Yes, I did find a way indeed... which is why I sustain that if I can do > it,

Re: [xubuntu-users] The Devil's Advocate

2017-07-13 Thread Joao Monteiro
Hmm... ok, thank you for the clarification, appreciated. I usually do exactly that, when I'm at the PC or Laptop. But I'm replying from my phone, as I have been at work and commuting to and from work and unfortunately when I hit "reply" my phone just opens a new blank window to reply, so my

Re: [xubuntu-users] The Devil's Advocate

2017-07-13 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 06:26:20 +0100 Joao Monteiro wrote: > MR, can you please clarify me what "to bottom post" means, as I don't > want to break any etiquette. http://bfy.tw/CoLm SteveT Steve Litt July 2017 featured book: Quit Joblessness: Start Your Own Business