Re: [xul-talk] Microsofts Drops Avalon From Windows 2007/Longhorn? Is MS-XAML Dead?

2004-09-22 Thread Marc Clifton
Well, the Longhorn bloggers are backpedalling on that and are saying that the quote is completely out of context. I would tend to agree with them, except this is the second posting now about Avalon being delayed. Adam Kinney made a hypoethical question of it here:

Re: [xul-talk] Re: [xul-announce] GTK# Fails The XAML Test

2004-08-15 Thread Marc Clifton
Being C++, it's not directly supported with MyXaml because of the dependence on reflection, but I've done a brief look at Qt# and wx.Net. Both of these have similar problems as GTK#--many classes do not support parameterless constructors and there are probably issues with creating object

Re: [xul-talk] WHAT WG Spokesman Declares Mozilla XUL a proprietary language - Comments?

2004-08-12 Thread Marc Clifton
I guess we have different understandings of the term "open". For example, by your definition, .NET is "open" because Microsoft provides the runtime for free. I'm not even sure what "open" means in this context. How is it "open"? As to proprietary, I don't understand how you're using this term

Re: [xul-talk] Mono/Gtk#/MyXAML - Anyone Tried It Out?

2004-08-10 Thread Marc Clifton
Thanks for heads-up Gerald. I'm going to have to give that a try! Marc Gerald Bauer wrote: Hello, Has anyone tried out using MyXAML for Gtk# running on Mono yet? Does anyone plan to? To get started using Gtk# and Mono O'Reilly now has an article online titled Using the Gtk Toolkit with Mono

Re: [xul-talk] Choosing a UI Markup Language by Vik David

2004-08-03 Thread Marc Clifton
Did he miss out on something? Yeah. MyXaml. I also think he is too focused on the whole presentation layer thing and doesn't see the benefits of markup being used to drive generic class instantiation. It's an uphill battle, getting people to think outside of the box that Microsoft has put over

[xul-talk] Re: xul-announce digest, Vol 1 #222 - 1 msg

2004-07-18 Thread Marc Clifton
Thanks for the post, Gerald. IBM says: The IBM Reflexive User Interface Builder differs from other XML-based GUI systems in that it uses Java Reflection APIs to create its set of tags and attributes. This means that it has no DTD or schema. It also means that the run time is very small. And

[xul-talk] Apple's Dashboard--XUL or XAML?

2004-07-07 Thread Marc Clifton
Adam Kinney has a post about Apple's Dashboard here: http://www.adamkinney.com/message.aspx?ID=70 A couple quotes that got me giggling but disappointed: "Kind of reminds me of when I first heard about Longhorn. " "No, I am not worried aboutwho copied who, I think its just a natural

[xul-talk] Re: How To Contribute To Mozilla - Please, Don't - Please, Leave Us Alone (Gerald Bauer)

2004-07-04 Thread Marc Clifton
I was rolling on the floor laughing reading that one. Mozilla sounds just like Microsoft and their XAML. Chris Sells has on a couple occasions said how great my criticism of MS-XAML is--it's exactly what they're looking for, so that they can improve it. Please, don't insult my intelligence!

RE: [xul-talk] Project FopSpeen - Why Not?

2004-06-21 Thread Marc Clifton
Alexander writes: ... Give us a small flexible plugin for other browsers and it might work, but it still isn't very likely Well, a friend of mine is helping to write a plug-in for IE right now, that'll work with MyXaml. After we get the IE plug-in working, we'll take a look at Firefox. He

RE: [xul-talk] Project FopSpeen - Why Not?

2004-06-21 Thread Marc Clifton
Alexander de Landgraaf from Amsterdam has kicked off a new project called FopSpeen with the tagline rich client web applications for the masses. Actually, I have another comment to make about the FopSpeen project. Why go through all those hoops illustrated in the diagram? Use .NET/Mono for

RE: [xul-talk] Project FopSpeen - Why Not?

2004-06-21 Thread Marc Clifton
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex de Landgraaf Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 1:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [xul-talk] Project FopSpeen - Why Not? Hi Xul people, Quoting Marc Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Actually, I have another comment to make about the FopSpeen project. Why

RE: [xul-talk] myXAML ... face lift?

2004-06-04 Thread Marc Clifton
Thanks Arron! The credit for the website goes to a friend from the Code Project and his girlfriend. As to the MVC pattern, Ive gotten rather enamored with it. How do you think it compares/contrasts to Microsofts n-tier concept? MVC and MyXaml seem to be a natural union, but its

RE: [xul-talk] Rob Relyea (MS) Comments On The XUL Challenge Showcase

2004-05-07 Thread Marc Clifton
If you know of any other reader's comments or reactions, please let us know. I've started a Wiki page to collect all links. You can see the humble beginning online @ http://xul.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/XulChallengeComments LOL. Yeah, mine:

RE: [xul-talk] What is XAML? What is XUL? What is XUI?

2004-05-06 Thread Marc Clifton
Hi Gerald, Thanks for the feedback! I personally feel that this is a difficult but important issue to get my arms around. As I mentioned in the xaml-talk post (great idea, BTW!), I think it's important to separate MS-XAML from what I would call pure XAML. You said: XAML is an XML UI

[xul-talk] I'm looking for an xml based scripting language

2004-04-20 Thread Marc Clifton
Hi all, Im looking for recommendations for an xml-based scripting language to add to MyXaml. I came across XEXPR (http://www.w3.org/TR/2000/NOTE-xexpr-20001121/), but it looks a bit clumsy. The idea here is to define in XML some basic workflows (no, not the complex workflow server type

RE: [xul-talk] I'm looking for an xml based scripting language

2004-04-20 Thread Marc Clifton
:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [xul-talk] I'm looking for an xml based scripting language On Tue, 2004-04-20 at 21:23 -0400, Marc Clifton wrote: Has anyone done anything like this or could point me in the right direction? We use Javascript to great effect. -- - Charlie Charles Goodwin