Seeing as Mozilla claims "XUL" as a trademark, I thought this might
be of interest:
http://www.mozilla.org/foundation/trademarks/domain-name-license.pdf
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Gerald Bauer wrote:
Possibly the easiest way for diffentiation is the client technology
- AJAX: HTML, CSS, JavaScript (Dojo / Ruby-on-Rails / Backbase)
[Snip!]
- XUL / XAML: fat client
I'd just like to point out that you could probably use AJAX with
XUL, so it's not necessarily separate or mutu
Gerald Bauer wrote:
Joe writes:
XAML is an OPEN LANGUAGE. It is XML COMPLIANT. How many times do I
have to say it?
If any portion of it is patented, and the license for any of those
patents puts restrictions on what license you can use, it's not open.
The fact that you can find out wh
Gerald Bauer wrote:
Joe Marini comments:
1. XAML is not “just a XUL ripoff.” XUL is entirely about presentation
structure.
No, it's an abstract UI language. Though it's not entirely divorced
from the presentation, most of the actual presentation is defined in
CSS. XUL also has templates, dat
Martin Kessler wrote:
This is the source that doesn´t work:
xmlns:html="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml";
xmlns="http://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul";>
Maybe one of you can help me, that would be very nice. I´m looking
forward for any answ
Gerald Bauer wrote:
You are of course more than welcome to discuss
Mozilla's XUL on the xul-talk mailinglist. All I was
saying is that the nature of xul-talk will be
reflected in the answers, that is, the answers will
not only focus on Mozilla's XUL but also include
thoughts and comments about al
Gerald Bauer wrote:
Hello Matthew Raymond,
Based on the context of the the email and the
URLs it contains, I
believe Sundew was referring to XUL in the Mozilla
sense of the word.
The examples that you cite are not compatible with
Mozilla's XUL.
Again the charter of the xul-talk mailin
Gerald Bauer wrote:
-ZULU(Flash XUL parser)
http://zulu.netspedition.com/zulu/main/overview.shtml
As far as I can tell the guy who started ZULU is no
longer interested in it and there hasn't been any
progress over the last two years or so.
Note, however, that there are many alternative XUL
clie
Gerald Bauer wrote:
What's your take? Do you agree with Josh that
Microsoft has given up on HTML and Internet Explorer
and wants to replace the Web's de facto standards with
its WinFX XAML offering?
Well, what has Microsoft got to gain from better web standards
support? Better standards supp
I've been working on the "New Xul Name" Wiki, and I'm interested in
people's comments:
http://xul.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/NewXulName
There are many blank "Why?" and "Why Not?" sections, so feel free to
contribute. There are currently about 17 acronyms listed. All of the
acronyms
Charles Goodwin wrote:
On Sat, 2005-01-15 at 03:09 -0500, Matthew Raymond wrote:
I think you've hit the heart of why the "XUL Alliance" won't change
their name: They don't think Mozilla has the stones to take them to
court. Actually, Mozilla could theoretically su
Arron Ferguson wrote:
I don't. He seems to be into some evil things, humanitarian eugenics for
one. Humanitarian eugenics is a belief system that suggests that all
peoples of the world are not considered equal - based on genetics. So
for example African nations are poor and stupid because their of
Arron Ferguson wrote:
Some good points. It's going to be interesting how this is handled. I
noticed that along side Xeotrope XUI and my Purnama XUI is another XUI
project from JWay. So far I've not received any e-mails from either but
probably because my project isn't very active and hence not much
Pierre DEZON (via Gerald Bauer) wrote:
I don’t agree with some of Gerald Bauer actions, but I
think the XUL Alliance site and the people involved or
talking on the list all contribute to enhance
innovation by sharing ideas and developing various XML
User Interfaces technologies (XML UI).
Agreed,
Arron Ferguson wrote:
XUL is a technology, not a brand name.
It's both. Companies trademark the names of their technologies all
the time.
> XUI is a technology (the same
type of technology as a XUL) not a brand name.
I'm not sure the software vendor Xoetrope, who lists XUI as one of
its "p
Charles Goodwin wrote:
On Thu, 2005-01-13 at 10:51 +, Ian Hickson wrote:
Many industry acronyms are generic by nature -- XML, HTML, XSL, DOM, CD,
DVD, XUL, etc. Yet they are all specific to one language or technology.
Um, all the examples you quote above are actual language definitions.
Mozill
Gerald Bauer wrote:
Do you agree with Jon Perez that there's not much
value in Mozilla XUL as long as its bound to the
overengineered RDF, XPCOM, XPInstall, XPFE, XBL and so
on machinery?
XBL? He doesn't even mention XBL! Besides, why would we try to
remove XBL when we have a W3C standardized
Arron Ferguson wrote:
I just finished watching Star Wars Empire Strikes back and I still have
Darth Vader's theme song stuck in my head. Having said that Kurt is
probably not that far off the mark.
Considering Microsoft never met a software market it didn't want to
dominate, I'd say that's a sa
Karthik wrote:
I have a problem with the textbox element in XUL unable to set new values to
its VALUE property as it changes (As I call the onchange event)
Here's my code snippet in XUL File
This line should be the following:
|
function setTheNewValues()
{
tempNewValue =
Gerald Bauer wrote:
Just to let you know that the XAML Developers Group
poll asking "What do you plan to use XAML for?"
[Snip!]
Here's the standing as of October, 28th:
o To create windows forms 5 votes (27.78%)
o To create animation 3 votes (16.67%)
o To create web forms/web pages 3 vote (16.6
Marc Clifton wrote:
I guess we have different understandings of the term "open". For
example, by your definition, .NET is "open" because Microsoft provides
the runtime for free. I'm not even sure what "open" means in this
context. How is it "open"? As to proprietary, I don't understand how
Gerald Bauer wrote:
"It is much a 'XUIL' as XHTML. More so, in fact, by
design."
"I don't really understand the term 'XUIL', though,
it's a bit like 'UUIL' ('Unicode User Interface
Language') or 'UILUET' ('User Interface Language Using
English Tags') -- highlighting one minor aspect of the
lang
Gerald Bauer wrote:
Dashboard like Konfabulator or gDesklets or
SuperKaramba is a mini XUL motor that lets you create
eye candy for your desktop using markup and scripts.
Not exactly. From David Hyatt's weblog, it says the following:
"I wanted to blog briefly to clear up what the widgets actu
Pike wrote:
because the L is doubled. in full, that reads
Extensible Markup Language User Interface Language
Even with XUIL, the L(anguage) is already in the X (of XML)
If you view XUIL as "XML-based User Interface Language", then I
don't see what the issue is.
what were gerald bauer's he
Laurent Jouanneau wrote:
Mozilla.org claims that XUL IS a trademark :
http://www.mozilla.org/foundation/licensing.html
In that case, use of XUL as a generic term is clearly a violation of
trademark.
And i confirm : the use of XUL term for other technologies than
Mozilla's XML user interface l
Gerald Bauer wrote:
Just to let you know I invite you to use whatever
acronym you feel most comfortable with on xul-talk. Be
it XUL, XUI, XUIL, XML-UI, XPML, XAML, UIML, UML, WML
etc. It's your choice and I ask everyone to respect
it.
XUL - Many already claim that this is a trademark of Mozilla.
Gerald Bauer wrote:
[Snip!]
The viewpoints expressed on the first day seemed to
fall into four categories:
1) This is a non-issue. The Web as it stands is more
than adequate to the task of delivering applications.
A few presenters emphasized that it is possible to
create sophisticated application
Michael Gloegl wrote:
I just wanted to refute the argument that
just because something is in XML it is not necessarily easier to handle
- especially not regarding the "multiple paralell versions" problem.
I fail to see how you've succeeded in that regard.
If you're still not convinced why no
There are several reasons why (X)HTML/XUL is superior to Java for
customization of a GUI:
1) You can easily and dynamically generate HTML and XML-based languages
from a database on a web server. In fact, the server can even
dynamically generate pages for specific languages. The client side n
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