Re: [yocto] Need clarification on some terms

2013-06-13 Thread Khem Raj
On Jun 12, 2013, at 12:51 PM, Paul D. DeRocco pdero...@ix.netcom.com wrote: Okay, so now there are two stages to each cross-compilation, so there's gcc-cross-initial producing gcc-cross, and also gcc-crosssdk-initial producing gcc-crosssdk. But is the difference between those two pairs that

Re: [yocto] Need clarification on some terms

2013-06-13 Thread Paul D. DeRocco
From: Khem Raj snip Hope that helps Yes, it does. That's an e-mail that will not be deleted. Thanks. -- Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco Paulmailto:pdero...@ix.netcom.com ___ yocto mailing list yocto@yoctoproject.org

Re: [yocto] Need clarification on some terms

2013-06-12 Thread michael
Cross-Development Toolchain: A collection of software development tools and utilities that allow you to develop software for targeted architectures. Is that different from the toolchain that bitbake builds in the beginning, and then uses to build the image? If so, what is it? A cross

Re: [yocto] Need clarification on some terms

2013-06-12 Thread Bill Traynor
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 7:16 AM, mich...@cubic.org wrote: Cross-Development Toolchain: A collection of software development tools and utilities that allow you to develop software for targeted architectures. Is that different from the toolchain that bitbake builds in the beginning, and

Re: [yocto] Need clarification on some terms

2013-06-12 Thread Rifenbark, Scott M
To: mich...@cubic.org Cc: yocto@yoctoproject.org Subject: Re: [yocto] Need clarification on some terms On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 7:16 AM, mich...@cubic.orgmailto:mich...@cubic.org wrote: Cross-Development Toolchain: A collection of software development tools and utilities that allow you

Re: [yocto] Need clarification on some terms

2013-06-12 Thread Rifenbark, Scott M
- From: yocto-boun...@yoctoproject.org [mailto:yocto- boun...@yoctoproject.org] On Behalf Of mich...@cubic.org Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 4:17 AM To: yocto@yoctoproject.org Subject: Re: [yocto] Need clarification on some terms Cross-Development Toolchain: A collection of software

Re: [yocto] Need clarification on some terms

2013-06-12 Thread Rifenbark, Scott M
This begs the question for gcc-crosssdk-intermediate... Is that gone as well? -Original Message- From: Paul Eggleton [mailto:paul.eggle...@linux.intel.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 5:00 AM To: yocto@yoctoproject.org Cc: Rifenbark, Scott M Subject: Re: [yocto] Need clarification

Re: [yocto] Need clarification on some terms

2013-06-12 Thread Paul Eggleton
On Wednesday 12 June 2013 12:27:16 Rifenbark, Scott M wrote: This begs the question for gcc-crosssdk-intermediate... Is that gone as well? Yes. Cheers, Paul -- Paul Eggleton Intel Open Source Technology Centre ___ yocto mailing list

Re: [yocto] Need clarification on some terms

2013-06-12 Thread Paul D. DeRocco
From: Paul Eggleton gcc-cross-intermediate is gone as of 1.3; as I understand it current versions of glibc can be compiled using gcc-cross-initial so the intermediate step is no longer required. We should remove mention of this from the documentation (other than in the migration

Re: [yocto] Need clarification on some terms

2013-06-12 Thread Rifenbark, Scott M
: [yocto] Need clarification on some terms From: Paul Eggleton gcc-cross-intermediate is gone as of 1.3; as I understand it current versions of glibc can be compiled using gcc-cross-initial so the intermediate step is no longer required. We should remove mention of this from the documentation

Re: [yocto] Need clarification on some terms

2013-06-12 Thread Trevor Woerner
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Paul D. DeRocco pdero...@ix.netcom.com wrote: Shouldn't gcc-cross be described as a cross package rather than a native, and shouldn't gcc-crosssdk be described as a native binary that runs on the target? Or am I still fundamentally misinterpreting these things?

Re: [yocto] Need clarification on some terms

2013-06-12 Thread Trevor Woerner
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Paul D. DeRocco pdero...@ix.netcom.com wrote: For now, I really just need to know if I'm interested in the SDK, since I have no intention of ever running compilations on my target system. Imagine a company which produces embedded devices running Linux. There are

Re: [yocto] Need clarification on some terms

2013-06-12 Thread William Mills
On 06/12/2013 03:51 PM, Paul D. DeRocco wrote: For now, I really just need to know if I'm interested in the SDK, since I have no intention of ever running compilations on my target system. Trevor's answer has a lot of great background. My short answer is gcc-cross is for use inside bitbake

Re: [yocto] Need clarification on some terms

2013-06-12 Thread Paul D. DeRocco
From: Trevor Woerner Imagine a company which produces embedded devices running Linux. There are hardware engineers, and software people. Within the software group there will always be that person (or group) which is responsible for creating the Linux filesystem which runs on the device,

Re: [yocto] Need clarification on some terms

2013-06-12 Thread Paul D. DeRocco
Or, looking at your notes, is it that bitbake -c populate_sdk image takes the toolchain that was used to build the image, and packages it up as an SDK for the benefit of application developers (the normal case), while bitbake meta-toolchain builds a new SDK that may be different in some ways,

Re: [yocto] Need clarification on some terms

2013-06-12 Thread Zhang, Jessica
Woerner' Cc: yocto@yoctoproject.org Subject: Re: [yocto] Need clarification on some terms Or, looking at your notes, is it that bitbake -c populate_sdk image takes the toolchain that was used to build the image, and packages it up as an SDK for the benefit of application developers (the normal case

[yocto] Need clarification on some terms

2013-06-11 Thread Paul D. DeRocco
I'm trying a second time to see if I can learn this system. Section 3.4 contains a short glossary which explains some things and seems to obscure others. So perhaps someone can clear up a few simple things. Cross-Development Toolchain: A collection of software development tools and utilities that

Re: [yocto] Need clarification on some terms

2013-06-11 Thread Rifenbark, Scott M
it out. Seems I need to completely finish that task. Scott -Original Message- From: yocto-boun...@yoctoproject.org [mailto:yocto- boun...@yoctoproject.org] On Behalf Of Paul D. DeRocco Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 9:07 PM To: yocto@yoctoproject.org Subject: [yocto] Need clarification