Re: [Zen] Thanks for an engaging listserv!

2010-11-26 Thread Maria Lopez
Chris and Lluis: Thank you for such a sweet thought!.  It brought a big smile on me.   I paste here a video with Spanish subtittles created by myself with the chanting and practise of Metta sending energy to the 10 directions. Tibetan Photographs from this video were passed onto me by a young Tib

Re: [Zen] New Member

2010-11-26 Thread Maria Lopez
Yes Lana, you're right,  there is a difference between being cold and being thought of being cold.  We should look into oneselves with no fear of the findings which one of them we are.  Perhaps we are a bit of one of them, perhaps we're a bit of both of them, perhaps any of them...who knows.  On

RE: [Zen] Perhaps

2010-11-26 Thread BillSmart
Ed, MATTER is not different than EMPTINESS. Yes. In my post below I specifically said the CONCEPTS of [fill in the blank – could be a concept of matter, like a peach] are FORMS. …Bill! From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:zen_fo...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ED Sent: Thursday, November 2

RE: [Zen] New Member

2010-11-26 Thread BillSmart
Ed, I am convinced that I have met, interacted with and witnessed several modern-day zen masters that were able to hold Buddha Mind in their everyday life: Koyru Roshi, Maezumi Roshi, Dae Soen Sa Nim and Tetsugen (Bernard Glassman) Roshi before he was a Roshi and was the Senior Monk at ZCLA under

RE: [Zen] Perhaps

2010-11-26 Thread Maria Lopez
Bill: This is what I was trying to explain but with a failed result through the explanation of eating a peach.  You paid attention to the form as something isolated from the experience.  The word experience was not mentioned as it was taken for granted to be understood through the motion action

RE: [Zen] Thanks for an engaging listserv!

2010-11-26 Thread BillSmart
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RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book

2010-11-26 Thread BillSmart
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RE: [Zen] Three Buddhist Practices

2010-11-26 Thread BillSmart
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RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas

2010-11-26 Thread BillSmart
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RE: [Zen] Perhaps

2010-11-26 Thread BillSmart
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RE: [Zen] Perhaps

2010-11-26 Thread Maria Lopez
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RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book

2010-11-26 Thread Anthony Wu
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Re: [Zen] New Member

2010-11-26 Thread siska_cen
Hello Lana, I'm pretty new to this forum too and I think we can all learn a lot here. A things I learned from my practice that may be relevant here: - it is always difficult if I label people and everything around me as worldly and at the same time not liking anything worldly. First, labelling

Re: [Zen] Perhaps

2010-11-26 Thread siska_cen
Hi Bill, * smile * Thanks for the koan. Siska -Original Message- From: Sender: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 08:51:02 To: Reply-To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Zen] Perhaps Siska! Gutei's Finger Gutei raised his finger whenever he was asked a question

RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book

2010-11-26 Thread BillSmart
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RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas

2010-11-26 Thread BillSmart
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[Zen] Zen, Mythology, Mind-states and Faith

2010-11-26 Thread ED
Bill, Assume that person A, who has never heard of Zen before, is made aware of the literature, history and mythology of Zen, and about experiences of 'Buddha Nature.' Person A goes to a zendo, learns how to practice zazen, and finds that it quietens his mind. However, he is skeptical about

[Zen] Nirvana and Buddhahood

2010-11-26 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
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RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book

2010-11-26 Thread Anthony Wu
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Re: [Zen] Zen, Mythology, Mind-states and Faith

2010-11-26 Thread Anthony Wu
ED,   You should be excused for making a couple of harmless insults, because of your capability to produce such a wonderful presentation.   Anthony --- On Sat, 27/11/10, ED wrote: From: ED Subject: [Zen] Zen, Mythology, Mind-states and Faith To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, 27 No

Re: [Zen] Nirvana and Buddhahood

2010-11-26 Thread Anthony Wu
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Re: [Zen] Zen, Mythology, Mind-states and Faith

2010-11-26 Thread Anthony Wu
ED,   You should be excused for making a couple of harmless insults, because of your capability to make such a wonderful presentation.   Anthony --- On Sat, 27/11/10, ED wrote: From: ED Subject: [Zen] Zen, Mythology, Mind-states and Faith To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, 27 Novem

Re: [Zen] Nirvana and Buddhahood

2010-11-26 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
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Re: [Zen] Zen, Mythology, Mind-states and Faith

2010-11-26 Thread ED
Anyhony, If you point out to me the 'insults', I will rectify the situation right away. --ED --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu wrote: > > ED, > > You should be excused for making a couple of harmless insults, because of your capability to make such a wonderful presentation. > > A

[Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas

2010-11-26 Thread ED
JMJM, 'Sensation' has a specific meaning in Theravadin Buddhism: "Sensation: Feeling or sensations are of six forms: vision , hearing , olfactory sensation, gustatory

RE: [Zen] Perhaps

2010-11-26 Thread BillSmart
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RE: [Zen] Zen, Mythology, Mind-states and Faith

2010-11-26 Thread BillSmart
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Re: [Zen] Perhaps

2010-11-26 Thread ED
Bill, By 'work on' them, you undoubtedly mean resolve the koan with the non-discursive mind. The consequence of this is that the 'meaning' of koans is *private*, and a koan's ineffable meaning is known to the Master only. This fact grants the Zen Master sole and incontestable power to pronounc

RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book

2010-11-26 Thread BillSmart
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RE: [Zen] Perhaps

2010-11-26 Thread BillSmart
/zen/cgi-bin/koan-index.pl > > There' absolutely no problem with just reading and enjoying these. You don't have to "work on them' and in fact shouldn't try if you're not working with a competent zen teacher. > >...Bill! __ Information from ESET N

Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas

2010-11-26 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Ed, I don't use sensation that way. It is just a feeling without thoughts. Usually feeling without thoughts are more truthful. :-) Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com http://www.heartchan.org On 11/26/2010 5:06 PM, ED wrote: JMJM, 'Sensation' has a spe