Re: [Zen] Re: Liberation

Hi Ed, What is shenanigans in? siska -Original Message- From: "ED" Sender: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 17:35:12 To: Reply-To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Zen] Re: Liberation 'Amen!' requires an end. Is there ever an *end* to the shenanigans in the typ

Re: [Zen] Re: Liberation II

Dr. Austin's work is of more interest to the person seeking a scientific understanding of the brain than to a person seeking to experience Zen training for themselves. Though, Bill, I'm sure if we wrote all of your interesting and helpful posts on this forum together into one piece, it would be hu

[Zen] Liberation IV

Good Morning to Everyone on Christmas Day, Yes, it is easy to talk about Liberation. It is not hard to understand liberation. Yet how do we exactly attain this state of being and maintain it 24/7? I was taught, Liberation is the fourth state after Discipline, Sambodhi, Wisdom. My Teacher te

[Zen] Re: Liberation III

JMJM, You may be quite right as per SGI's viewpoint. The Concept of Equality in the Lotus Sutra: The SGI's Viewpoint ---ED --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Jue Miao Jing Ming wrote: > > ... "Absolute Equality" is a state of being and not a biography,

[Zen] Re: Liberation III

Hi Mel, As Ed responded, "Absolute Equality" is a state of being and not a biography, or a personality. It is well documented in Buddhist sutras. All three posts about Liberation is about our inner state of being, and not externally manifested form, which are impermanent and relative at best

[Zen] Re: Liberation III

As far as 'awareness' goes, I think that it is commonly believed that the Buddha's enlightenment/awarenes was 'absolute' in the senses high-lighted below. I am not aware of his having made any pronouncements on 'equality'. --ED Definitions of 'absolute'. * perfect or complete or pure; "a

[Zen] Re: Liberation II

Bill - Never underestimate the creativity and power of the discursve mind! It keeps millions of Internet groups and hundreds of millions of posters occupied and happy. This is what distinguishes our culture as being 'civilized'. --ED ;-) --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "Bill!" wrote: >

[Zen] Re: Liberation III

> Buddha has awakened to Absolute Equality and Absolute Awareness. To use the term 'absolute' means to put forward the theory that the Buddha was absolute as above for the rest of each and everyday of his life until the day he died. Humans being humans, each and everyone of us will drop into t

[Zen] Re: Liberation II

ED, I looked at the book, at at page 343 as you suggested. It's just unbeleiveable to me that someone could think they could say anything relevant about zen in 550+ page book. Zen is so simple and uncomplicated I just don't know how anyone could squeeze that many words out of it - or any word