My copies of botht the Diamond and Heart Sutras are translated and commented on
by Edward Conze. I do have a couple books by Red Pine - The Collected Songs of
Cold Mountain and The Zen Teaching of Bodhidharma which I like a lot. I
certainly would recommend Red Pine's translations.
...Bill!
My only contact with Cheryl Huber has been to read about half of a book she
wrote, called something like 'There is nothing wrong with you.' it was not
especially my style, and it is still sitting on my 'being read' shelf of books.
I have not heard of a Mountain View Zen Center, but I will look
No trouble. It is much harder to keep track of individuals on list servs than
in real life. I am actually never sure of the difference between you and Steve.
You both like martial arts and the idea of no-self, but one claims to have
achieved mystic union pre Zen and the other is climbing a mount
Bill:
I used to like as a child the Yellow Submarine by The Beatles. It was a
version translated into Spanish and it was part of the repertoire songs we used
to sing amongst many other song in the bus during school children trips to
places. That was so much fun!.
Mayka
--- On Wed, 9/3/11,
Bill;
If change has nothing to do with you doing something then it has to do by
myself following Edgar advice I couldn't see any edit settings for spam but as
I was very attentive looking into it and nothing found. But all of a sudden
when I click over one Mike posting in the spam folder to r
Mike:
As I said I have a very wide taste for a variety of music styles. I even like
some of the classics. Enrico Morricone in moviesDepends upon the moment,
place and mood I prefer to listen to one or another style and artist. I like
Sarah Boyle voice but don't usually hear her much. F
Mel;
Ah, You are a romantic!.
Mayka
--- On Wed, 9/3/11, Mel wrote:
From: Mel
Subject: [Zen] Something Refreshing
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 9 March, 2011, 7:19
Aw c'mon guys(that also means gals), I'm 48 and I can't get enough of Fank
Sinatra, Tony Bennet
Chris,
>but one claims to have achieved mystic union pre Zen and the other is climbing
>a
>mountain range?
I think you'll find they're both mine. Steve fell off the tree as a ripened
piece of fruit.
Mike
From: ChrisAustinLane
To: "Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.
There is also the version from TNH. Can't exactly recall the tittle in English
(I have the Spanish translation) but I think is something that goes over this
lines: "The Diamond that cut through Illusion" . It's a very good version as
the Ven. TNH is a great Scholar and gives lots of references
How can you teach mindfulness when you haven't had the realisation on it in
you?.
--- On Tue, 8/3/11, Healthyplay1 wrote:
From: Healthyplay1
Subject: Re: [Zen] For Chris~~Two Potent Quotes
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 8 March, 2011, 18:20
Chris..
Sorry for the
Ah, a moment of enlightenment courtesy of Edgar Roshi!
:-)
Edgar
On Mar 9, 2011, at 4:17 AM, Maria Lopez wrote:
> Bill;
>
> If change has nothing to do with you doing something then it has to do by
> myself following Edgar advice I couldn't see any edit settings for spam but
> as I was ver
A bow to Roshi Edgar?
Although I couldn't find the settings you mention still was a good idea to be
pointed out as it lead me to open Mike mail in the same spam folder and in that
way I could see the boxes appearing once the mail is opened. I couldn't see
before because mail from spam fold
k, welcome back! --ED
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "Healthyplay1"
wrote:
>
> Chris,
>
> I haven't followed the postings recently, but as I was looking over
the thread topics, I saw your comment here, and have a quick question..
>
> Being in No. Cal, have you attended any classes /retrea
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, mike brown wrote:
>
> Steve,
>
> >When I would teach a karate class...
>
> Funny you should have been a karate instructor. I used to teach Kyokushin
> karate
> to kids and I always felt I learnt more from being a teacher than a sudent.
>
> Mike
Hi Mik
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, mike brown wrote:
>
> Steve,
>
> >> Hi Mike. Jiriki is cool if you know that both Jiriki and Tariki are
> upaya. IMO.
>
> Haha, I know! Is the boy looking for th ox? Or is the ox looking for the boy?
>
> Mike
Hi Mike. Best not to think about it! ;-)
St
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, mike brown wrote:
>
> Chris,
>
> >but one claims to have achieved mystic union pre Zen and the other is
> >climbing a
> >mountain range? Â
>
> I think you'll find they're both mine. Steve fell off the tree as a ripened
> piece of fruit.
>
> Mike
>
> I l
Dear All,
Thanks to ED, we had some wonderful discussion recently.
May I suggest some posting sharing your personal
realization/witness/journey so that we can all learn?
Thank you,
JM
--
Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can
http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com
http://www.heartchan.org
Sure, I wasn't trying to pry into your motivation, I apologize if I
did pry. I was merely disagreeing with your comment.
Certainly it makes sense to be careful of your privacy when posting to
a public, recorded, forum.
Thanks for your sweet email.
On Mar 7, 2011 10:41 PM, "ED" wrote:
These is
On Wednesday, March 9, 2011, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
wrote:
>
> Dear All,
>
> Thanks to ED, we had some wonderful discussion recently.
>
> May I suggest some posting sharing your personal
> realization/witness/journey so that we can all learn?
Seems to me ED has been pret
I have resolved all the koans of real (illusory) life that I have needed
to resolve in order to be happy. [:))]
--ED
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Chris Austin-Lane wrote:
>
> > Dear All,
> >
> > Thanks to ED, we had some wonderful discussion recently.
> >
> > May I suggest some posti
OOPS! Badly worded.
What I meant was:
"These issues are a huge can of worms I am unwilling to discuss for a
variety of reasons, but especially as I to not perceive a strong
connection of this topic to dharma, unless you convince me otherwise."
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Chris Austin-L
Whom are you talking to, and, what makes you so cock-sure of your
judgment?
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Maria Lopez wrote:
>
> How can you teach mindfulness when you haven't had the realisation on
it in you?.
> Chris..
> > Chris,
> >
> > I haven't followed the postings recently, but
The core truth is I think I have much to say on the interesting points
you raised, but I just don't have the energy to do so. It others have
thought on those topics, and I believe k does, then I might join in with
appropriate comments.
--ED
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "ED" wrote:
>
O
Thanks for the clarification! Be careful, when you are climbing a lower
ridge, it will block your view of the distant peak.
Do you find apparent begger women asking for a bit of bread, or stuck
animals asking for help as you journey?
Haha, just kidding.
Cheers,
--Chris
On Mar 9, 2011 2:05 AM,
Hi Chris and all,
I am not sure whether I read your post correctly. My suggestion was not
targeted at ED. It thanked Buddha for bringing ED to us, so that we
had wonderful sharing from many of us.
If any one in the forum could share more of the personal
witness/realization probably could
Steve,
> >> Hi Mike. Jiriki is cool if you know that both Jiriki and Tariki are
> upaya. IMO.
>
> Haha, I know! Is the boy looking for th ox? Or is the ox looking for the boy?
>
>Hi Mike. Best not to think about it! ;-)
It was a rhetorical question. ; )
Mike
Chris,
>Thanks for the clarification! Be careful, when you are climbing a lower
>ridge,
>it will block your view of the distant peak.
>
No worries. I learnt a little trick from Mohammed ; )
>Do you find apparent begger women asking for a bit of bread,
See see! When there's so much ripe
Hi Steve,
This is very interesting, and I appreciate you sharing this. Truthfully, I
only learned a bit about his work when I took a class years ago, "Sensation
and Perception". You may have a much better understanding of his conclusions.
I like how you see buddhist thought reflected here
Hi Mayka,
Well *s* -- my post was to Chris-- But, if this is true for
you, then I suggest ignoring it, and simply move on to your own practice.
Take care.. :) k
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Maria Lopez wrote:
>
> How can you teach mindfulness when you haven't had the realisation o
*smiles back to you*.. ~k~
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "ED" wrote:
>
>
>
> k, welcome back! --ED
>
>
>
> --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "Healthyplay1"
> wrote:
> >
> > Chris,
> >
> > I haven't followed the postings recently, but as I was looking over
> the thread topics, I saw you
Hi Chris,
Some very interesting ideas in your comments. My time is short now, and I'd
rather give you a mindful response. So, I will do so later.
Thanks again for the reply. Have a good day.. k
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, ChrisAustinLane wrote:
>
> My only contact with Cheryl Hube
And who are you to make judgements about me or the dharma?. Who are you to
intrude in something you don't know?. To heat the thread perhaps?. Always
awaiting for the represion to come out at the first opportunity?
--- On Wed, 9/3/11, ED wrote:
From: ED
Subject: Re: [Zen] For Chris~~Two
JM,
Do you have any counselling tips for our sister Mayka, like the ones you
so generously bestow on me?
Thanks,
--ED
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Maria Lopez wrote:
>
> And who are you to make judgements about me or the dharma? Who are
you to intrude in something you don't know?. T
JM,
Do you have any counselling tips for our sister Mayka, like the ones you
so generously bestow on me?
Thanks,
--ED
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Maria Lopez wrote:
>
> And who are you to make judgements about me or the dharma? Who are
you to intrude in something you don't know?. T
No hot tips from Yeshua or Moishe?[;)]
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, mike brown wrote:
>
> Chris,
>
> >Thanks for the clarification! Be careful, when you are climbing a
lower ridge,
> >it will block your view of the distant peak.
>
> No worries. I learnt a little trick from Mohammed ;
ED:
I have never put before anyone posting in the spam folder and any posting
that was ended there was just the yahoo standard settings who would do that for
me. However, I have put yours and K.. going there for the better to all of
us. Still I will be able to read you both if on line but if
Mayka,
I would never ignore your posts on the Zen Forum, as I experience them
as superb catalysts for insight and personal growth.
--ED
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Maria Lopez wrote:
>
ED: I have never put before anyone posting in the spam folder and any
posting that was ended there
ED;
Are you playing smart with me now?. Or you are just taking the micky of me.
Mayka
--- On Wed, 9/3/11, ED wrote:
From: ED
Subject: Re: [Zen] For Chris~~Two Potent Quotes
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 9 March, 2011, 22:23
Mayka,
I would never ignore your p
Mayka,
You have all that you need within you to deal with any situation
skillfully and wholesomely, without any knowledge of my intentions.
--ED
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Maria Lopez wrote:
>
> ED;
>
> Are you playing smart with me now?. Or you are just taking the micky
of me.
>
> M
Ok.
Thanks,
Chris Austin-Lane
Sent from a cell phone
On Mar 9, 2011, at 10:08, "ED" wrote:
>
>
>
>
> The core truth is I think I have much to say on the interesting points you
> raised, but I just don't have the energy to do so. It others have thought on
> those topics, and I believe k
*smiles*
I haven't been following this thread, so I have nothing useful to offer. Be
kind to yourself , ED. Take a rest-- or a martini;) In time, maybe you will
have more to say on this. Or not;) Both are fine, in my opinion.
Good eve to all..
Kristy
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Mayka,
>To heat the thread perhaps?.
I tread warily, because I'd hate for you to think the world is ganging up on
you
here, but it takes two to start a flame-war. ED is spot on - how you deal with
perceived put-downs or insults is entirely up to you (Geez, just take a look at
the sparring me
ED,
I'll have to go out on a limb here and predict that they would say, "If a stone
from yonder peak should strike thy head - then surround the peak and blow it to
kingdom come with Brahm tanks." Or something like that. (To be fair, Mohammed
did say if the peak doesn't move, then fly a plane f
ED;
Still I can read you and K...from the spam folder if Im on line. The spam
folder keeps the mail for at least 24 hours. Don't know yet. I'd liike
to clarify with you that I don't experience dislike for your person in any
way. Actually from the both of you, you are a lot of more interest
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