;t you a
> 40 year meditating Aussie? I'd love to here more from ya. I'm living in a
> four bedroom, 2/12 bath wilderness 70 miles above NYC.
> The Buddha to you
> Larry
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 3:55 AM, Merle Lester wrote:
>
> **
>
>
&g
erle, ain't you a 40
year meditating Aussie? I'd love to here more from ya. I'm living in a four
bedroom, 2/12 bath wilderness 70 miles above NYC.
The Buddha to you
Larry
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 3:55 AM, Merle Lester wrote:
> **
>
>
>
> PRESENT...merle
>
>
I think you might be wasting your time. Nobody lives here no more. Not sure
y?
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 12:58 AM, wrote:
> **
>
>
> Whoever reads this post please REPLY.
>
>
> I'm requesting this as a test of the new Yahoo! Group format.
>
> Thanks...Bill!
>
>
>
--
*Larry Maher*
oing that.
> > > >
> > > > ...Bill!
> > > >
> > > > --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, uerusuboyo@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Merle,I'm not "attempting" to say anything. I wrote it
> in
> > > > black and white and clearly: humans are in a unique position to
> become
> > > > self-realised by following the Dharma (law of reality). You added
> the
> > > > destructive bit.MikeSent from Yahoo! Mail
> for
> > > > iPad
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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>
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>
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>
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*Larry Maher*
'm not "attempting" to say anything. I wrote it in
> > > black and white and clearly: humans are in a unique position to become
> > > self-realised by following the Dharma (law of reality). You added the
> > > destructive bit.MikeSent from Yahoo! Mail for
> > > iPad
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
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*Larry Maher*
; Edgar
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sep 11, 2013, at 12:28 AM, Bill! wrote:
> >
> > Â
> > >Here's a nice one posted especially for Edgar for two reasons:
> > >
> > >
> > >1. Â to see if he's still around
> > >2. Â to get his comment.
> > >
> > >
> > >I generally like the message, but could do without everything after
> "He's saying..." up to the last sentence. Â I like the last sentence.
> > >
> > >
> > >...Bill!Â
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
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>
>
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*Larry Maher*
ive ones!
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 9:42 AM, Bill! wrote:
> **
>
>
> Larry,
>
> The survey, like your post below, is voluntary; but the survey, unlike
> your post, is anonymous.
>
> ...Bill!
>
> --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, larry maher wrote:
> >
> &g
rvey. Kind regards.
>
>
>
> (survey is anonymous and voluntary)
>
>
>
> Survey link: https://www.psychdata.com/s.asp?SID=154915
>
>
>
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*Larry Maher*
you can feel the inner body whenever you listen to
> someone.
> >
> > It almost seems like a paradox: When you are in touch with the inner
> > body, you are not identified with your body anymore, nor are you
> > identified with your mind.
> >
> > This is to say, you are no longer identified with form but moving away
> > from form identification toward formlessness, which we may also call
> > Being.
> >
> > It is your essence identity.
> >
> > Body awareness not only anchors you in the present moment, it is a
> > doorway out of the prison that is the ego.
> >
> > It also strengthens the immune system and the body's ability to heal
> itself.
> >
> > ECKHART TOLLE
> >
>
>
>
--
*Larry Maher*
the shelf-life of 3 seconds, but
> > > perceptions are not experience.
> > >
> > > All thoughts, IMO, are either memories (past) or projections (future),
> > > both of which are delusions. Only experience is now.
> > >
> > > ...Bill!
> &g
Why read, interpret, and re-dictate this stuff if it's not making you
happy? Or would you rather be an erudite simply content with winning every
argument or, in this case, creating one where one isn't Jesus
Christ! Or is it Buddha! Or Vishnu? Lighten up dude, all victories are
Pyrrhic.
sing
> the imagination for planning and reflection - but things get sticky all too
> easily as soon as we begin to believe any of it.
>
> Non-attachment, is not detachment. It is the cessation (effortlessly - by
> realization, not effort) of the delusional cycle of attachment and
>
esents as a
> > problem to the extent you believe it to be separate or otherwise
> > different from "now". In an of itself, such thinking is just thinking. A
> > useful survival mechanism. Realizing this, it serves. Deluded by this,
> > it hinders. "Now".
> >
> > KG
> >
>
>
>
>
--
*Larry Maher*
gt; different from "now". In an of itself, such thinking is just thinking. A
> > useful survival mechanism. Realizing this, it serves. Deluded by this,
> > it hinders. "Now".
> >
> > KG
> >
>
>
>
--
*Larry Maher*
are not found thru a belief in a god.
>
> Mike
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad
>
> --
> *From: *larry maher ;
> *To: *;
> *Subject: *Re: [Zen] Re: the human body
> *Sent: *Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:08:10 PM
>
>
> I hate to
ahoogroups.com, Merle Lester wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Â bill...meaning what?..clarification please..merle
> > Â
> > Larry,
> >
> > I agree most of what you posted here, but would like to add that most
> people however choose security over freedom.
&
ere is the term noble savage... and let us not forget these noble
> > > > savages are living in the NOW...the space you so yearn to be ..merle
> > > >
> > > > Larry,
> > > >
> > > > IMO the basis of all cultural and socie
RCxU
>
> ECKHART TOLLE
>
> --
> Thanks and best regards
> J.Suresh
> New No.3, Old No.7,
> Chamiers road - 1st Lane,
> Alwarpet,
> Chennai - 600018
> Ph: 044 42030947
> Mobile: 91 9884071738
>
>
--
*Larry Maher*
missed the boat...( the point)... watch the brazilian
> tribe doc..then tell me "there is no "god"...merle
>
> Merle,
>
> Just because belief in a god gives comfort it doesn't make it true.
>
> Mike
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad
>
> --
> *From: *Merle Lester ;
> *To: *Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com ;
> *Subject: *Re: [Zen] Re: the human body
> *Sent: *Sun, Aug 25, 2013 1:23:16 AM
>
>
>
> mike..explain yourself please..
> and KG not true...on a beautiful spring day one rejoices and gives
> thanks that one has eyes to see and ears to hear and a tongue to
> speak..merle
>
> And comfort is only sought when dis-eased.
>
> KG
>
> On 8/24/2013 4:19 AM, uerusub...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
>
>
> Merle,
>
> Utility is no measure of Truth.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
>
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>
>
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>
>
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>
>
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>
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*Larry Maher*
ins a central tenet of Buddhism that liberation
> and freedom are not found thru a belief in a god.
>
> Mike
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad
>
> --
> *From: *larry maher ;
> *To: *;
> *Subject: *Re: [Zen] Re: the human body
> *Sen
eople living in harmony
> with each other and their environment... paradise lost where did our
> civilisation go so wrong?. cheers merle
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> '
> http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/isolated-zoe-tribe/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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*Larry Maher*
* Re: [Zen] Re: the human body
> * Sent: * Sun, Aug 25, 2013 1:23:16 AM
>
>
>
> mike..explain yourself please..
> and KG not true...on a beautiful spring day one rejoices and gives
> thanks that one has eyes to see and ears to hear and a tongue to
> speak..merle
>
> And comfort is only sought when dis-eased.
>
> KG
>
> On 8/24/2013 4:19 AM, uerusub...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
>
>
> Merle,
>
> Utility is no measure of Truth.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
--
*Larry Maher*
of course I'd agree.
On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 12:29 AM, Bill! wrote:
> **
>
>
> Larry,
>
> I agree most of what you posted here, but would like to add that most
> people however choose security over freedom.
>
> ...Bill!
>
> --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.co
about beautiful people living in harmony
> with each other and their environment... paradise lost where did our
> civilisation go so wrong?. cheers merle
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> '
> http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/isolated-zoe-tribe/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> *Larry Maher*
>
>
>
>
--
*Larry Maher*
lf a cultural or societal value.
>
> ...Bill!
>
>
> --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, larry maher wrote:
> >
> > Very good video Merle. No leaders, equal men and female rights and
> > multi-spouse marriage, men marrying several women or women marrying
> several
> >
ment... paradise lost where did our
> civilisation go so wrong?. cheers merle
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> '
> http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/isolated-zoe-tribe/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> *Larry Maher*
>
>
>
>
--
*Larry Maher*
our
> civilisation go so wrong?. cheers merle
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> '
> http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/isolated-zoe-tribe/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
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*Larry Maher*
her head for the pillow."
>
> ...Bill!
>
> --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, uerusuboyo@... wrote:
> >
> > Bill!,The Buddha Nature of a child isn't the same though, in
> the sense that layers are being formed rather than stripped. I'd also be
> careful with comparing experiencing Buddha Nature (being Awake) with losing
> yourself whilst driving your car and listening to the
> radio.MikeSent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad
> >
>
>
>
>
>
--
*Larry Maher*
27;¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÂÂ
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > the human body..can we exist without it?...we do when we
> are in cyber space although we need the body to get the messages out
> there...mm that has me stumped!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > would this body less be liken to the meditation
> ÃÆ'Æ'Ãâ€
> 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÂÂ
> state
> that can be achieved once one has surpassed the breath counting saga?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> ÃÆ'Æ'Ãâ€
> 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ i
> have belief that monks can practise a form of meditation whereby the can
> slow the whole body/ mind totally down to an almost non existent state
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > in all the many previous post there has been much focus on
> slowing the mind down..however the body..does it have a mind of it's own so
> to speak?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > after all there are millions of tiny organisms..rummaging
> in the body that we do not have any control over what so ever...
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > (meditate as long and hard as you want, they do their own
> thing regardless)...
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > a whole eco system...one could say a universe lies in the
> gut
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> ÃÆ'Æ'Ãâ€
> 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ my
> zen question is thus:
> ÃÆ'Æ'Ãâ€
> 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ to
> be totally free ..the human body is it a restraint?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> ÃÆ'Æ'Ãâ€
> 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÂÂ
> merle
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> ÃÆ'Æ'Ãâ€
> 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÂÂ
> > > > > > > > > Merle
> > > > > > > > > www.wix.com/merlewiitpom/1
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> *Larry Maher*
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> *Larry Maher*
>
>
>
>
--
*Larry Maher*
enced 'zen' without Siddharta Gotama's enlightenment and the
> spreading of the sutras? I agree that experiencing Buddha Nature is not
> intrinsically dependent on them, but it may as well be. Without Buddha's
> rediscovering of Buddha Nature we'd probably still be believing in souls
> and the reality of an ego. MikeSent from Yahoo!
> Mail for iPad
> >
>
>
>
--
*Larry Maher*
> > > > i know this is a little crazy..however here i
> go..ÃÆ'Æ'Ãâ€
> 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÂÂ
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > the human body..can we exist without it?.
> > > > > > > > > the human body..can we exist without it?...we do when we
> are in cyber space although we need the body to get the messages out
> there...mm that has me stumped!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > would this body less be liken to the meditation
> ÃÆ'Æ'Ãâ€
> 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÂÂ
> state
> that can be achieved once one has surpassed the breath counting saga?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> ÃÆ'Æ'Ãâ€
> 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ i
> have belief that monks can practise a form of meditation whereby the can
> slow the whole body/ mind totally down to an almost non existent state
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > in all the many previous post there has been much focus on
> slowing the mind down..however the body..does it have a mind of it's own so
> to speak?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > after all there are millions of tiny organisms..rummaging
> in the body that we do not have any control over what so ever...
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > (meditate as long and hard as you want, they do their own
> thing regardless)...
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > a whole eco system...one could say a universe lies in the
> gut
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> ÃÆ'Æ'Ãâ€
> 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ my
> zen question is thus:
> ÃÆ'Æ'Ãâ€
> 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ to
> be totally free ..the human body is it a restraint?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> ÃÆ'Æ'Ãâ€
> 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÂÂ
> merle
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> ÃÆ'Æ'Ãâ€
> 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÂÂ
> > > > > > > > > Merle
> > > > > > > > > www.wix.com/merlewiitpom/1
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
--
*Larry Maher*
; unnecessary dualism. The universe works perfectly well without the need to
> create a Creator.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad
>
> --
> * From: * larry maher ;
> * To: * ;
> * Subject: * Re: [Zen] Re: the human
.7,
> Chamiers road - 1st Lane,
> Alwarpet,
> Chennai - 600018
> Ph: 044 42030947
> Mobile: 91 9884071738
>
>
>
>
> Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are
> reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
--
*Larry Maher*
t; > > > > > the human body..can we exist without it?...we do when we are
> in cyber space although we need the body to get the messages out
> there...mm that has me stumped!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > would this body less be liken to the meditation
> ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ state that can be achieved once
> one has surpassed the breath counting saga?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ i have belief that
> monks can practise a form of meditation whereby the can slow the whole
> body/ mind totally down to an almost non existent state
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > in all the many previous post there has been much focus on
> slowing the mind down..however the body..does it have a mind of it's own so
> to speak?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > after all there are millions of tiny organisms..rummaging in
> the body that we do not have any control over what so ever...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > (meditate as long and hard as you want, they do their own
> thing regardless)...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > a whole eco system...one could say a universe lies in the gut
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ my zen question is
> thus: ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ to be totally free ..the
> human body is it a restraint?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ merle
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÂÂ
> > > > > > > > Merle
> > > > > > > > www.wix.com/merlewiitpom/1
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
--
*Larry Maher*
nyone here experienced hearing their mind aloud? I mean really
> HEARING, not thoughts.
>
>
>
>
> --
> *Larry Maher*
>
>
>
>
--
*Larry Maher*
Thank you so much.
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Edgar Owen wrote:
> **
>
>
> Larry,
>
> Bill and me, Edgar, are co-moderators of the group...
>
> Edgar
>
>
>
> On Aug 23, 2013, at 12:32 PM, larry maher wrote:
>
>
>
> Can anyone help me? I
ind aloud? I mean really
> HEARING, not thoughts.
>
>
>
--
*Larry Maher*
there...mm that has me stumped!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > would this body less be liken to the meditation
> ÃÆ'‚ state that can be achieved once one has surpassed the
> breath counting saga?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ i have belief that monks can practise a
> form of meditation whereby the can slow the whole body/ mind totally down
> to an almost non existent state
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > in all the many previous post there has been much focus on
> slowing the mind down..however the body..does it have a mind of it's own so
> to speak?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > after all there are millions of tiny organisms..rummaging in
> the body that we do not have any control over what so ever...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > (meditate as long and hard as you want, they do their own
> thing regardless)...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > a whole eco system...one could say a universe lies in the gut
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ my zen question is thus:
> ÃÆ'‚ to be totally free ..the human body is it a restraint?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ merle
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ÂÂÂ
> > > > > > > Merle
> > > > > > > www.wix.com/merlewiitpom/1
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
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*Larry Maher*
ing better, but only
> worried about younger son.
>
> Please pray.
>
>
> Suresh
>
> Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel
>
>
>
> Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are
> reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
--
*Larry Maher*
ates beautifully
> when the greater intelligence that you are
> uses it and expresses itself through it."
>
> ~ Eckhart Tolle
> from: "Stillness Speaks".
>
> --
> Thanks and best regards
> J.Suresh
> New No.3, Old No.7,
> Chamiers road - 1st Lane,
> Alwarpet,
> Chennai - 600018
> Ph: 044 42030947
> Mobile: 91 9884071738
>
>
--
*Larry Maher*
oned
> this to has pointed out I could just do yoga at home.
>
> I really enjoyed the Baby and Me yoga class tho - I felt very wholesomely
> good afterwards.
>
> My favorite sort of macho-Zen from the 60s book is the Three Pillars of
> Zen.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Chris
&g
f that name.
> I never saw the movie or read the book, although I did enjoy the
> Kabat-Zinn book "The Full Catastrophe."
>
> --Chris
>
> Thanks,
>
> --Chris
> ch...@austin-lane.net
> +1-301-270-6524
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 4:48 PM, larry maher wro
t; maybe i'll look up the book first...
>
> M
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 12:18 PM, larry maher wrote:
>
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>>
>> I should watch Zorba again.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 6:02 AM, Merle Lester wrote:
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>>> **
>>&
> 2o1o.avi - YouTube*
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2. The Religio-Economic Realm
>>3. Money and Magna Mater
>>4. The Sacrificial Way to the Object
>>5. Sacred Lucre
>>6. Psychodynamic Extrapolations
>>7. The Metaphors of Marx
>>8. The Interest in Interest
>>9. The Vicious Circle and the Bad Parent
>>10. More Opiates, More Anxieties
>>11. Lurking Ambivalence
>>12. Goods and More Goods
>>13. Notes and References Part Two
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>>1. A Glance Backward, A Glance Forward
>>2. The Meaning of Non-Ordinary Moments
>>3. The Emergence of the Non-Ordinary World
>>4. Solidifying One's Change
>>5. Transforming the Past at the Mind-Body Level
>>6. Notes and References Part Three
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by new found paths of spiritual expediency, breaking down the
> barriers of dreaded practice and study, with a quick new way to the heart
> of the Buddhist teachings. These guys can usually be found promoting
> murderers, ex-convicts and in their spare time threaten to ruin some
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> find them. While making up the majority of Buddhists in the West, they
> appear to lack any interest in communicating or dealing with Buddhists
> outside of their community. I did send them a gift pack that contained a
> two liter bottle of Diet Mt. Dew, a poor boot-leg copy of Loretta Lynns'
> Greatest Hits and a years subscription to Juggs magazine, but alas no luck.
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