Re: [zeromq-dev] Moving list to Google groups?

2016-04-19 Thread Trevor Bernard
No real preference between google groups or mailman TBH. -Trev On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 9:06 AM, Dinu Gherman wrote: > I just got a reply from MailmanLists support saying they plan to introduce > Mailman 3 this year, without giving a date, though. > > -- > Sent on the move. > Von unterwegs gesende

Re: [zeromq-dev] Moving list to Google groups?

2016-04-19 Thread Dinu Gherman
I just got a reply from MailmanLists support saying they plan to introduce Mailman 3 this year, without giving a date, though. -- Sent on the move. Von unterwegs gesendet. > Am 19.04.2016 um 13:54 schrieb Brian Knox : > > Excellent. +1 for staying with mailman then. > >> On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 a

Re: [zeromq-dev] Moving list to Google groups?

2016-04-19 Thread Brian Knox
Excellent. +1 for staying with mailman then. On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 5:21 AM, Kevin Sapper wrote: > Staying with Mailman is indeed the better choice. Even though I like > Google groups they don't have an option the migrate away from it which is a > deal breaker IMO. > Regarding helping out Ewen

Re: [zeromq-dev] Moving list to Google groups?

2016-04-19 Thread Kevin Sapper
Staying with Mailman is indeed the better choice. Even though I like Google groups they don't have an option the migrate away from it which is a deal breaker IMO. Regarding helping out Ewen I gladly volunteer. 2016-04-19 5:30 GMT+02:00 Indradhanush Gupta : > > > On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 8:44 AM, P

Re: [zeromq-dev] Moving list to Google groups?

2016-04-18 Thread Indradhanush Gupta
On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 8:44 AM, Pieter Hintjens wrote: > OK, we need a small set of admins, who can work with my friend Ewen > McNeill, who has kept archives over the years, to migrate to mailmanlists > and then manage the lists (zeromq-announce is #2). Justin, it's your baby. > Thank you. > Thi

Re: [zeromq-dev] Moving list to Google groups?

2016-04-18 Thread Pieter Hintjens
OK, we need a small set of admins, who can work with my friend Ewen McNeill, who has kept archives over the years, to migrate to mailmanlists and then manage the lists (zeromq-announce is #2). Justin, it's your baby. Thank you. On 19 Apr 2016 05:10, "Pieter Hintjens" wrote: Justin, that is a grea

Re: [zeromq-dev] Moving list to Google groups?

2016-04-18 Thread Pieter Hintjens
Justin, that is a great proposal, thank you for finding it. I'd prefer keeping mailman, for familiarity. On 19 Apr 2016 04:36, "Justin Karneges" wrote: > Hey folks, > > I spoke with MailmanLists and they are willing to host the ZeroMQ > mailing list for free. All they ask for is a link on the mai

Re: [zeromq-dev] Moving list to Google groups?

2016-04-18 Thread Justin Karneges
Hey folks, I spoke with MailmanLists and they are willing to host the ZeroMQ mailing list for free. All they ask for is a link on the mailing list page. If you'd prefer the list remain Mailman-based and simply don't want to host it, then I'd say this is the best the way to go. They'll import archi

Re: [zeromq-dev] Moving list to Google groups?

2016-04-18 Thread c
Jim Idle writes: I'm a nay on Google Groups. As seen with SourceForge, sometimes the priorities of companies change. This is especially true for a publically traded company. The price points of https://www.mailmanhost.com/pricing/ seem better than http://www.mailmanlists.net/ but I have no perso

Re: [zeromq-dev] Moving list to Google groups?

2016-04-15 Thread Mario Steinhoff
I'm ok with Google Groups as long I'll still receive all posts as mail (which should be possible as others have noted). Archive migration is a must have, seems also be possible. What would be Plan B if in the future if Google decides to shutdown Google Groups? This has happened in the past, even

Re: [zeromq-dev] Moving list to Google groups?

2016-04-15 Thread Luca Boccassi
On Fri, 2016-04-15 at 14:53 +0800, Jim Idle wrote: > > On 14.04.2016 09:41, Pieter Hintjens wrote: > > >> So an added criteria for any new platform is ability to import our > > archives. > > >> > > >> Free is a plus iff the hosting business is long term reliable. > > >> > > >> Conventional email in

Re: [zeromq-dev] Moving list to Google groups?

2016-04-14 Thread Jim Idle
> On 14.04.2016 09:41, Pieter Hintjens wrote: > >> So an added criteria for any new platform is ability to import our > archives. > >> > >> Free is a plus iff the hosting business is long term reliable. > >> > >> Conventional email interface is a plus. > >> > https://developers.google.com/admin-sd

Re: [zeromq-dev] Moving list to Google groups?

2016-04-14 Thread alex.
I have to take back my vote for librelist. By chance I read some Mails from Flask (a python web-framework) which used to host their mailing-lists there and decided to move to mail.python.org. Turns out librelist didn't use mailman and some users were unable to subscribe to the list, while Zed S

Re: [zeromq-dev] Moving list to Google groups?

2016-04-14 Thread Jim Idle
You just add your email address to the google list - you don't actually need a Google account. Thre is really no difference to now. On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 5:46 PM, Jeff Shanab wrote: > I am also a mostly silent lurker and will probably not follow a google > group. :-( > > On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 a

Re: [zeromq-dev] Moving list to Google groups?

2016-04-14 Thread Kyle Kelley
I'm in favor of Google groups, relative to the alternatives. On Thursday, April 14, 2016, Greg Young wrote: > Google groups is a mediocre solution given all the alternatives but > its also quite commonly used so most people are willing to deal with > its warts. The history of the group would be

Re: [zeromq-dev] Moving list to Google groups?

2016-04-14 Thread Greg Young
Google groups is a mediocre solution given all the alternatives but its also quite commonly used so most people are willing to deal with its warts. The history of the group would be important to bring over if possible (I do not know of an api for bringing it over). On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 1:45 AM,

Re: [zeromq-dev] Moving list to Google groups?

2016-04-14 Thread Alex Bligh
On 14 Apr 2016, at 08:41, Pieter Hintjens wrote: > So an added criteria for any new platform is ability to import our archives. > > Free is a plus iff the hosting business is long term reliable. > > Conventional email interface is a plus. Additional criterion (satisfied by Google Groups and m

Re: [zeromq-dev] Moving list to Google groups?

2016-04-14 Thread alex.
Also a 'nay' on Google Groups from me. And I also concur with Lionel Orry: Librelist is just awesome. Personally I've had the best mailing list experience with lists hosted their - although that might just say something about the quality of the projects hosted there. Afaik it also uses mailman an

Re: [zeromq-dev] Moving list to Google groups?

2016-04-14 Thread Alex Bligh
On 14 Apr 2016, at 10:46, Jeff Shanab wrote: > I am also a mostly silent lurker and will probably not follow a google group. > :-( I've no particular beef for or against Google Groups, but it is entirely possible to follow them like a normal mailing list. The signup feature is hidden a lit

Re: [zeromq-dev] Moving list to Google groups?

2016-04-14 Thread Jeff Shanab
I am also a mostly silent lurker and will probably not follow a google group. :-( On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 3:05 AM, Dinu Gherman wrote: > Hi! > > I'm a silent lurker here, but I would most likely stop following this list > after a move to google groups. I don't like imposing the use of an account

Re: [zeromq-dev] Moving list to Google groups?

2016-04-14 Thread Pieter Hintjens
So an added criteria for any new platform is ability to import our archives. Free is a plus iff the hosting business is long term reliable. Conventional email interface is a plus. On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 9:36 AM, Indradhanush Gupta wrote: > > > On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 1:02 PM, Jim Idle wrote:

Re: [zeromq-dev] Moving list to Google groups?

2016-04-14 Thread Indradhanush Gupta
On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 1:02 PM, Jim Idle wrote: > Also usually a lurker here, but I am all in favor of Google Groups. > Generally much better than the mailing list software. Can be a change for > some people of course. But +1 from me for what it's worth. > > Jim > > On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 3:05

Re: [zeromq-dev] Moving list to Google groups?

2016-04-14 Thread Jim Idle
Also usually a lurker here, but I am all in favor of Google Groups. Generally much better than the mailing list software. Can be a change for some people of course. But +1 from me for what it's worth. Jim On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 3:05 PM, Dinu Gherman wrote: > Hi! > > I'm a silent lurker here, b

Re: [zeromq-dev] Moving list to Google groups?

2016-04-14 Thread Dinu Gherman
Hi! I'm a silent lurker here, but I would most likely stop following this list after a move to google groups. I don't like imposing the use of an account already connecting to lots of data where any email address anywhere would be just what is needed. Sure, you can user other identities, but th

Re: [zeromq-dev] Moving list to Google groups?

2016-04-13 Thread Lionel Orry
14 April, 2016 01:11:10 > > Subject: Re: [zeromq-dev] Moving list to Google groups? > > > If you like Mailman, I suggest http://www.mailmanlists.net/ . It's > > affordable, and the admins are responsive and helpful. I recently > > started using it on one of my li

Re: [zeromq-dev] Moving list to Google groups?

2016-04-13 Thread Holger Winkelmann
; To: zeromq-dev@lists.zeromq.org > Sent: Thursday, 14 April, 2016 01:11:10 > Subject: Re: [zeromq-dev] Moving list to Google groups? > If you like Mailman, I suggest http://www.mailmanlists.net/ . It's > affordable, and the admins are responsive and helpful. I recently > started using it on

Re: [zeromq-dev] Moving list to Google groups?

2016-04-13 Thread Justin Karneges
If you like Mailman, I suggest http://www.mailmanlists.net/ . It's affordable, and the admins are responsive and helpful. I recently started using it on one of my lists. Google groups is decent. I use it on a couple of my other lists. The Google account stuff is a little obnoxious but it's hard to

Re: [zeromq-dev] Moving list to Google groups?

2016-04-13 Thread Brian Knox
I'm not averse to google groups, in that it is low friction / low maintenance - and I always hesitate to suggest self hosted / higher friction / higher maintenance solutions unless I'm willing to implement and maintain them myself. Brian On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 6:45 PM, Pieter Hintjens wrote: >

[zeromq-dev] Moving list to Google groups?

2016-04-13 Thread Pieter Hintjens
Hi all, I'd like to raise this question for discussion. The problem is that zeromq-dev is running on an iMatix server, and I'd like to remove iMatix infrastructure from our community, over time. It's a matter of long term sustainability. (Apart from the list, iMatix also hosts downloads.zeromq.or