Re: [zeta-dev] Piwi and ZC (was: Re: [zeta-dev] Re: Class prefix change, was: Re: [zeta-dev] Welcome Apache Zeta Components - SVN up and running :))

2010-08-30 Thread Ole Marius Smestad
On 19. aug. 2010, at 13.40, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > Hello, > > a friend of mine and I wrote a framework together. I have the strong > feeling that PIWI should be based on ZC in near future since it offers > solutions for much problems we have. Additionally ZC can help PIWI to > concentrate

Re: [zeta-dev] Welcome Apache Zeta Components - SVN up and running :)

2010-08-24 Thread James Pic
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Gaetano Giunta wrote: >  Tobias Schlitt wrote: >> >> [...] >> >> To give you an impression, what we need to do, here a brain dump: >> >> - - Investigate which open issues need to be transfered >> - - Assign component maintainaners (volunteers?) > I'm (maybe the on

Re: [zeta-dev] Welcome Apache Zeta Components - SVN up and running :)

2010-08-23 Thread Gaetano Giunta
Tobias Schlitt wrote: [...] To give you an impression, what we need to do, here a brain dump: - - Investigate which open issues need to be transfered - - Assign component maintainaners (volunteers?) db and dbschema, if there are none other yet bye Gaetano

Re: [zeta-dev] Piwi and ZC (was: Re: [zeta-dev] Re: Class prefix change, was: Re: [zeta-dev] Welcome Apache Zeta Components - SVN up and running :))

2010-08-20 Thread Manuel Pichler
Hello everyone, On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 13:40 +0200, Christian Grobmeier wrote: [...] > However I would like to know if there has been a decision meanwhile on > the prefix issue (see below). I would like to avoid to include ZC > before this change has been done, if it is going to happen. > > My pre

Re: [zeta-dev] Piwi and ZC (was: Re: [zeta-dev] Re: Class prefix change, was: Re: [zeta-dev] Welcome Apache Zeta Components - SVN up and running :))

2010-08-19 Thread Christian Grobmeier
> sounds interesting. We already started discussing a "framework" > component a longer time ago in eZ Components. This component was meant > to provide integration for the components, like scaffolding scripts. > Having a complete framework on basis of Zeta would be a step in a > similar direction.

Re: [zeta-dev] Piwi and ZC (was: Re: [zeta-dev] Re: Class prefix change, was: Re: [zeta-dev] Welcome Apache Zeta Components - SVN up and running :))

2010-08-19 Thread Tobias Schlitt
Christian, On 08/19/2010 01:40 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > a friend of mine and I wrote a framework together. I have the strong > feeling that PIWI should be based on ZC in near future since it offers > solutions for much problems we have. Additionally ZC can help PIWI to > concentrate on it

[zeta-dev] Piwi and ZC (was: Re: [zeta-dev] Re: Class prefix change, was: Re: [zeta-dev] Welcome Apache Zeta Components - SVN up and running :))

2010-08-19 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hello, a friend of mine and I wrote a framework together. I have the strong feeling that PIWI should be based on ZC in near future since it offers solutions for much problems we have. Additionally ZC can help PIWI to concentrate on its maingoal. Maybe there is a chance to pull out a few classes, l

Re: [zeta-dev] Re: Class prefix change, was: Re: [zeta-dev] Welcome Apache Zeta Components - SVN up and running :)

2010-08-02 Thread Jerome Renard
Tobias, On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Tobias Schlitt wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Jerome, > [...] > > > Both options (keeping and updating the ezc prefix) have both pro and cons > > and as far as I am concerned > > I have no preference. However I think it is im

Re: [zeta-dev] Incubation of new components, was Re: [zeta-dev] Welcome Apache Zeta Components - SVN up and running :)

2010-08-02 Thread Tobias Schlitt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, On 08/01/2010 07:24 PM, Derick Rethans wrote: > On Sat, 31 Jul 2010, Tobias Schlitt wrote: >> I think that such a process is a good idea. Providing full requirements >> and design documentation up front is not always possible and indeed >> repres

Re: [zeta-dev] Re: Class prefix change, was: Re: [zeta-dev] Welcome Apache Zeta Components - SVN up and running :)

2010-08-02 Thread Tobias Schlitt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jerome, On 07/31/2010 06:53 PM, Jerome Renard wrote: > On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 6:31 PM, Tobias Schlitt wrote: >> Hi Andreas, >> On 07/31/2010 05:15 PM, Andreas Schamberger wrote: >>> for me it seems wrong if I think 'zeta' and have to type 'ezc'.

Re: [zeta-dev] Incubation of new components, was Re: [zeta-dev] Welcome Apache Zeta Components - SVN up and running :)

2010-08-01 Thread Derick Rethans
On Sat, 31 Jul 2010, Tobias Schlitt wrote: > I think that such a process is a good idea. Providing full requirements > and design documentation up front is not always possible and indeed > represents a quite high barrier for new contributions. However, providing the idea and what you're trying to

Re: [zeta-dev] Re: Class prefix change, was: Re: [zeta-dev] Welcome Apache Zeta Components - SVN up and running :)

2010-07-31 Thread Jerome Renard
Hello, On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 6:31 PM, Tobias Schlitt wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi Andreas, > > On 07/31/2010 05:15 PM, Andreas Schamberger wrote: > > > for me it seems wrong if I think 'zeta' and have to type 'ezc'. But > > maybe this is just a problem for me

Re: [zeta-dev] Re: Class prefix change, was: Re: [zeta-dev] Welcome Apache Zeta Components - SVN up and running :)

2010-07-31 Thread Tobias Schlitt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Andreas, On 07/31/2010 05:15 PM, Andreas Schamberger wrote: > for me it seems wrong if I think 'zeta' and have to type 'ezc'. But > maybe this is just a problem for me ;) I fully understand your concern here and I would still be in favor of chang

Re: [zeta-dev] Re: Class prefix change, was: Re: [zeta-dev] Welcome Apache Zeta Components - SVN up and running :)

2010-07-31 Thread Andreas Schamberger
Hi, for me it seems wrong if I think 'zeta' and have to type 'ezc'. But maybe this is just a problem for me ;) I just wanted to have raised my concern. I'll shut up and let's forget about it ;) Regards, Andreas Am 31.07.2010 16:46, schrieb Tobias Schlitt: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE

Re: [zeta-dev] Re: Class prefix change, was: Re: [zeta-dev] Welcome Apache Zeta Components - SVN up and running :)

2010-07-31 Thread Tobias Schlitt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, On 07/31/2010 04:44 PM, Piotrek Karas wrote: > W dniu 2010-07-31 15:02, Andreas Schamberger pisze: >> creating a successful new brand zeta components in my opinion also >> requires to change the prefix even if causes some migration pain. > Maybe

Re: [zeta-dev] Re: Class prefix change, was: Re: [zeta-dev] Welcome Apache Zeta Components - SVN up and running :)

2010-07-31 Thread Piotrek Karas
W dniu 2010-07-31 15:02, Andreas Schamberger pisze: Hi, creating a successful new brand zeta components in my opinion also requires to change the prefix even if causes some migration pain. Maybe giving the old prefix a new meaning could be an easier and safer approach? For example: Enterpris

Re: [zeta-dev] Re: Class prefix change, was: Re: [zeta-dev] Welcome Apache Zeta Components - SVN up and running :)

2010-07-31 Thread Tobias Schlitt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, On 07/31/2010 03:02 PM, Andreas Schamberger wrote: > creating a successful new brand zeta components in my opinion also > requires to change the prefix even if causes some migration pain. I don't see where the class prefix does much harm here. W

Re: [zeta-dev] Re: Class prefix change, was: Re: [zeta-dev] Welcome Apache Zeta Components - SVN up and running :)

2010-07-31 Thread Maxime Thomas
You can also call static function by : call_user_func( "ezcClassName::myFunc" ); 2010/7/31 Andreas Schamberger > Hi, > > creating a successful new brand zeta components in my opinion also requires > to change the prefix even if causes some migration pain. > > Am 31.07.2010 13:36, schrieb Tobia

Re: [zeta-dev] Incubation of new components, was Re: [zeta-dev] Welcome Apache Zeta Components - SVN up and running :)

2010-07-31 Thread Maxime Thomas
It could also be a good opportunity to get some working code (not necessarily responding to zc standards) from people or companies who want to share. The component it self can be an aggregate of all those peaces of code. Max 2010/7/31 Tobias Schlitt > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash:

Re: [zeta-dev] Re: Class prefix change, was: Re: [zeta-dev] Welcome Apache Zeta Components - SVN up and running :)

2010-07-31 Thread Andreas Schamberger
Hi, creating a successful new brand zeta components in my opinion also requires to change the prefix even if causes some migration pain. Am 31.07.2010 13:36, schrieb Tobias Schlitt: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, On 07/31/2010 12:57 PM, Andreas Schamberger wrote: 1) I'm

[zeta-dev] Incubation of new components, was Re: [zeta-dev] Welcome Apache Zeta Components - SVN up and running :)

2010-07-31 Thread Tobias Schlitt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, On 07/31/2010 12:57 PM, Andreas Schamberger wrote: > 2) Incubation: Maybe it would be a good idea to have some kind of > incubation process for new components that must not fully comply with all > (quality) requirements yet. This would maybe lowe

[zeta-dev] Re: Class prefix change, was: Re: [zeta-dev] Welcome Apache Zeta Components - SVN up and running :)

2010-07-31 Thread Tobias Schlitt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, On 07/31/2010 12:57 PM, Andreas Schamberger wrote: > 1) I'm not so happy with keeping the ezc prefix. As far as I recall it > wasn't really considered to change the class prefix to zeta. Ok the > reasoning is valid but wouldn't this big step of m

Re: [zeta-dev] Welcome Apache Zeta Components - SVN up and running :)

2010-07-31 Thread Tobias Schlitt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Andreas, thanks for your input. On 07/31/2010 12:57 PM, Andreas Schamberger wrote: >> To give you an impression, what we need to do, here a brain dump: >> >> - - Investigate which open issues need to be transfered >> - - Assign component maintain

Re: [zeta-dev] Welcome Apache Zeta Components - SVN up and running :)

2010-07-31 Thread Andreas Schamberger
Hi, great news :) > To give you an impression, what we need to do, here a brain dump: > > - - Investigate which open issues need to be transfered > - - Assign component maintainaners (volunteers?) > - - Discusss future release process > - - Start fixing bugs > - - Make a first official release :)

Re: [zeta-dev] Welcome Apache Zeta Components - SVN up and running :)

2010-07-30 Thread Kore Nordmann
On Sat, 2010-07-24 at 13:00 +0200, Tobias Schlitt wrote: > - - Investigate which open issues need to be transfered I would volunteer to maintain Document & Graph - since I am the main developer of them anyways… Kind regards, Kore -- Kore Nordmann(GPG 0xDD

Re: [zeta-dev] Welcome Apache Zeta Components - SVN up and running :)

2010-07-26 Thread Jerome Renard
Hi Tobias, On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Tobias Schlitt wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Ladies and gentlemen, > > I'm proud to announce that our new SVN space is up and running under > >https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/zetacomponents/ > > Now tha

Re: [zeta-dev] Welcome Apache Zeta Components - SVN up and running :)

2010-07-25 Thread James Pic
On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Tobias Schlitt wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Ladies and gentlemen, > > I'm proud to announce that our new SVN space is up and running under > > Great job! Congrats ;) - - Investigate which open issues need to be transfered > - - Ass

Re: [zeta-dev] Welcome Apache Zeta Components - SVN up and running :)

2010-07-24 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hello, great news and thanks for the hard work on this Tobias! Christian On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Tobias Schlitt wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Ladies and gentlemen, > > I'm proud to announce that our new SVN space is up and running under > >        https:/

[zeta-dev] Welcome Apache Zeta Components - SVN up and running :)

2010-07-24 Thread Tobias Schlitt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ladies and gentlemen, I'm proud to announce that our new SVN space is up and running under https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/zetacomponents/ Now that the code is finally dropped, we may (and even must) call ourselves "Apache Zeta Co